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Microsoft says Google is blocking development of official YouTube app for Windows Phone

0. phoneArena 03 Jan 2013, 01:30 posted on

In a new episode of “he said, she said,” Microsoft’s VP and Deputy General Counsel, Dave Heiner wrote up...

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posted on 03 Jan 2013, 01:40 33

1. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2431; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


Microsoft is honestly recieving their due..........it may seem unfair to some but the truth is microsoft has brought this upon themselves by thinking "taking shots" will get them ahead of the competition! seems like they're paying that price now

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 01:46 20

3. MeoCao (unregistered)


Well said!

MS, do you know what we normal people do when we need something? Pay and get the service.

Why the hell Google has to do this and do that to help MS?

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 06:03 5

68. smartphone (Posts: 160; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)


But that doesn't make situation better Google once support open choices and " do no evil " slogan, but they are becoming like old Microsoft and MS is on Google's way to support everyone what an irony.
I never support monopoly and now Google is becoming monopolistic, its us normal people who were affected by this not Steve ballamer.
The reason is MS and Google are direct competitors in many services like docs,browser,search, mail,cloud drive,desktop and mobile OS etc.
I don't get shouting for MS charging money for their service, if you don't like it don't use simple.
Google had stopped caring for us normal people sad :-(

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 07:48 5

74. MeoCao (unregistered)


Every1 can use Google data provided Google gets paid. Google sells ads on the free apps, but WP has too few users so it's not worth the investment for Google to make their apps for WP.

MS can make app but they have to pay for the data as Google can't sell ads on the MS apps.

And don't believe that blocking bulls**t, MS is not a trust worthy source of information.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 14:51 2

96. The.Truth.IS.Out.There (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


Because MS want to ruin Google

Read this:
readwrite.com/2013/01/03/googles-ftc-settlement-is​​-an-epic-fail-for-microsoft

quote:
The Shadow War

For years Microsoft has devoted massive resources and energy to waging a sneaky shadow war against Google, fielding an army of lobbyists and front groups that exist almost completely to spread anti-Google propaganda, including ICOMP.org, Association for Competitive Technology, FairSearch and SafeGov

They call themselves “industry groups,” and they have lots of members, but they’re basically Microsoft fronts devoted to hating on Google. Take a glance through ICOMP’s newsroom and Voices” section and white papers and ICOMP in the News section. It’s pretty much all Google, all the time — and all negative. It’s a whole website devoted to bashing Google, and frankly it’s kind of incredible, in a twisted way.

...........
click on the link for the FULL EVIL

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 02:11 17

7. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


Microsoft is blocking (even by fees):
Office
ntfs
fat32
exchange
browser competition
his codecs
ms sql
free OS choice on W8 machines
paying to slam Linux and open source
bribing in Slovakia, Hungary, ..... everywhere
charges almost every Android manufacturers
....many many more

Google has almost everything important for free

die Microsoft, the Devil ;)

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 02:52 10

17. TheBullyWhoWantFREECandy (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


AGREE!!!!!

Microsoft need to learn the word "I scratch your back, you scratch my back". They have been bullying Google/Android all the time, why should Google/Android be nice to them?

I really hope the Microsoft & Apple patent monopoly will break, and we'll all be the winner.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:00 13

21. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


You seem very blinded by an image spawned from the Google PR department.

Are you so shortsighted that you can't even understand that you're only trading one monopoly (Microsoft) for another (Google)?

Or are you in some kind of comfortably naive fanboy idea that Google don't care about making as much money as they can get away with, just as Microsoft and Apple?

... And that makes you OK with Google having monopoly on Search, E-mail, Online video, Online collaboration, Mobile OS, Maps, Advertising, and so on and so forth..?

Grow up, kid. Think it over one more time.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:06 7

25. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2431; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


once again......THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDIN.........if you dont understand that then sit back and watch as microsoft "continues" to get what they are "asking" for.......NOTHING!

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:17 7

32. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


You all sound very, very young. No wonder people respond me with thumbs down instead of factual comments.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:28 6

36. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2431; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


well we will see where your "factual" comments will get you soon enough

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 04:12 4

54. gazmatic (Posts: 600; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


they are either very young or have very little real world experience....

I mean... they are literally promoting one monopoly over another

unlike google, M$ doesnt sell my information...but they dont care... they probably dont have jobs and have to wait for their parents to buy them a new gadget...

sgroogle, M$, crappple, oracle, etc all have monopolistic tendencies...all want to see their competitors fail

how "fans", who are not employed by a single firm, nor have stock in the companies, nor would benefit in any way shape or form, how they could defend either monopoly is so laughable its sad...

if either company could abolish the others they would in a heartbeat...

google sucks because it sells your info, apple sucks because it "owns" your info and M$ suck because you dont "own" the software you buy

which is why i only buy hardware....(certain hardware) software on the other hand.....

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 04:37 4

57. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2431; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


well once again if our comments are so foolish, then the results will be even MORE of a dissappointment to you......we'll see who gets the last laugh ....MR " I DONE IT ALL AND KNOW MORE THAN YOU"

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 04:59 4

62. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


This whole site is infested with these annoying kids who can't speak for themselves, but instead like chickens vote uncomfortable comments down. It doesn't even matter if they know what the F you're talking about, they just don't like hearing bad stuff about their favored company. Instant thumb down.

It's like a grade school popularity contest, and the camp with the most friends/followers win. Basic retarded logic, which naturally fits perfectly in this child infested environment. Pussies. No one has even said I'm wrong yet, they just disregard it and keep talking about how bad Microsoft is and how Google will save the day. There's no point here, I'm clearly speaking for deaf ears that never wanted to listen anyhow.

This site is a joke. PhoneArena should remove the chicken s**t thumbs down button altogether, forcing the illiterate pussies to speak for themselves instead of just patting someone else on the back.

I'm not even having Engish as my native language, but I don't give a F. So what's the English speaking losers excuse?

P.S. Prepare for this comment to get thumbs down purely because of the point I was making, which then obviously hit perfectly on target. Or perhaps no thumbs down at all based on this last comment :-) Tricky decision, Mr Voter.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 07:26 5

73. lyndon420 (Posts: 1731; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


If I could give you 10 thumbs down I would...just because it seems to irritate you so much. Suck it up buttercup. It's a big cruel world out there, and if you can't handle some thumbs down then you need to creep somewhere else.

posted on 04 Jan 2013, 05:47

100. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


Oh, I can handle it. It's the tiresome fanboys who can't handle having a discussion that gets me irritated. So they dislike my comment, but why? Without giving me a reason, no one will know.

So I should think I was right all along and they just didn't like the sour "truth", and in the absence of a proper comeback all they managed to come up with was a thumbs down? Wouw, that's creative. Nice comebacks.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 18:06

99. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 1267; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)


I agree. TU for that

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 06:17 3

70. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Oh so looks like you worry so much about those thumbs up and downs and consider yourself too grown up to call others "very young". ... lol. Give this a thumbs down and report to PA :)

posted on 04 Jan 2013, 05:52

101. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


You obviously don't get what I'm talking about. And no, I wasn't the one flagging your comment making it hidden - your comment brought that upon itself.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 07:22 2

72. lyndon420 (Posts: 1731; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


I'm over 40. Google should keep all their awesome services for Android...well maybe except search.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:13 9

30. TheBullyWhoWantFREECandy (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


At least Google PR department doesn't hire a HITMAN like Mark Penn (phonearena.com/news/Microsofts-Scroogled-campaign​-just-the-beginning-kitchen-sink-on-the-way_id3772​9).

AT LEAST google didn't (try) destroy other company like Netscape, DR-DOS, Novel WITH DIRTY TRICK. To refresh your memory (1) Win95 doesn't have IE integrated to their OS, then suddenly microsoft feel the need to integrate WINdows with IE. (2) Microsoft use a trick to make DR-DOS can't run Windows. If DR-DOS name renamed into MS-DOS, then it can run Windows.

Microsoft is also the cause of death of SENDO & NOKIA.

It's OK for me if GOOGLE having a monopoly on search, email, online video, etc. But I don't like it when MS did. Because when MS did, they want it in their way, but google do it in open way, ex. Google use & support THE OPEN SYNCML, any other company can use/create syncML. but if MS win, EVERYONE must PAY $$$$ for using ActiveSync.... LET'S FACE IT... GOOGLE IS BETTER!!!!!

BTW,
MS also should make an office client for linux, android. They should also make internet explorer for linux, android. They should also port Direct-X to Linux, android. They should also make Zune for Linux, android....
HOW'S ABOUT THAT????

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:27 5

35. MarkPennISanAssHOLE (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


I'm not surprised if Henrik turned out to be one of the person who GOT PAID by Mark Penn / Microsoft to discredit Google.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:35 3

42. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


Yeah, and that would make you paid by ... Google? See how easy it is to just throw it out there. Am I right, too?

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:32 5

40. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


Look, Bully, I'm not saying Microsoft haven't used faul tricks in their line of business. Because they have, it is true. But what I'm saying is that you are all so disturbingly wrapped up in the PR branded image of Google as a do-no-evil don't-be-evil company that always play by the books. So instead of even bothering about checking whether that's true or not, you focuse all your anger and attention to the fact that Microsoft has been a bad guy.

Are you in the opinion that Google is playing nice, and has always done so..? To hear you say "It's OK for me if GOOGLE having a monopoly" pretty much sums it up regarding how objective your view is on the matter. You are so wrapped up in your anti-Microsoft propaganda that you obviously forget to think about what you're saying. Obviously, just as you said, you like for one company to have monopoly on most areas of the internet and software, with no competition. Just as long as it's not Microsoft. Eh, do you even know what a "monopoly" is?

A monopoly is not better just because it has come to be through more "friendly" methods. It's the monopoly ITSELF that is the bad thing. No matter how you got there.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:59 6

50. Henrik.IS.Mark.Penn (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


Henrik,

You admit it that Microsoft have played dirty!!!!

For Google,
Google is NOT NOT NOT microsoft!!!!
When Google want to rule the world with Android, it create OHA (Open Handset Alliance) and invite the phone manufacture to be the PARTNER.. I REPEAT... PARTNER!!!! GOOGLE SHARE ANDROID GLORY with other manufacture!!! FREELY!!!!

Microsoft??
Their Mobile adventure...
They destroy Sendo. First they ask Sendo to be their partner, then they sue Sendo and make it bankrupt. Then They put a trojan human into Nokia.

Judging by this 2 FACT alone, I would not BUY ANY OF MICROSOFT PRODUCT... EVER!!!!!

Microsoft Monopoly ==== PATENT THE WAY, MAKE OTHER PAY!!!!

GOOGLE MONOPOLY ==== USE/CREATE OPEN STANDARD, SHARE THE GLORY!!!! Fun Fact, look at the kindle FIRE. Kindle derive their OS from Android FREE!!!! And GOOGLE DIDNOT SUE THEM!!!!

So, it's as easy as 123. I WANT GOOGLE WIN. I want Google OPEN Standard to BE THE MONOPOLY!!!

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 04:37 3

58. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


Why wouldn't I admit it? I am more honest and objective on the matter than you'll obviously ever be. But I'm not stuck in the 90's still spewing desperate hate about it. I'm an adult, I move on and I am capable of understanding the bigger picture without limiting myself to a onesided discussion.

If people one day turn their back on Google AdWords, which generates 96% of Google's total profits, you will see what your open and free empire is really about. You see, everything's a sunshine story as long as someone else (the advertisters) is paying for your (Google) services. Should they ever stop paying, you will finally understand what it means having traded one monopoly behemoth for another. Because you do know that Google is OBLIGATED to make profits for their shareholders and investors, right?

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 05:36 3

64. gazmatic (Posts: 600; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


nokia....?

why are you OK with one monopoly as opposed to another?

they are all bad... all the same...same desires different tactics

if you had google stock i would understand

if your ex had M$ stock i would understand even more...

monopolies are BAD...regardless of who they are

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 02:54 4

19. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


I guess Google and Motorola Mobility should stop licensing their patents too then? Because by your definition, they seem to be equally "blocking" the competition even while offering licensing (just like Microsoft)..? Oh wait, Google actually is. Have you read Anything about the Xbox trial and the Motorola Mobility misuse of SEP and FRAND patents? (You should know that Google is the one handing the Motorola court cases.)

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:10 7

28. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


no, just sue Microsoft + Apple = real EVIL ;)

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:19

33. zuckerboy (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)


I use youtube everyday as a freak on my device and I checked wp8 device several days ago and youtube wasn't there.I though that It was the matter of time microsoft release the wp version but now It is difficult to see you tube on wp

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:28 8

37. MarkPennISanAssHOLE (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


Get real smartphone!!!!
Get Android dude!!!!

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 05:40

66. zuckerboy (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)


I already have gs2 mate :D what r u talking about ?

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 10:47 1

81. papss (unregistered)


You truly are an idiot

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 11:17 1

85. zuckerboy (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)


says mr mudafkr

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 05:38 1

65. rms.max (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


so u r saying apple did not say anything bad about Google ? or insult google ever ?

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 08:51 1

76. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)


Most of the Microsoft services are available on Android and IOS. Why can´t Google do the same for WP8. If I were MS I would ban Google Chrome from the entire Windows ecosystem, I use Firefox though.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 02:01 11

4. eisenbricher (Posts: 971; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


MS you can't get everything without giving out something in return. Simple as that.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 02:05 5

5. wendygarett (unregistered)


Oh well, guess I have to keep my current android devices and get lumia 920 later... It's not like a deal breaker to me at all with the world without YouTube... I love the tech and I'll get the wp8 no matter what...

The only thing I subscribe is iJustine, a vlogger on YouTube :)

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 02:16 3

9. Landmarkcm (Posts: 426; Member since: 11 Aug 2009)


There is youtube on windowphone it works just fine on my lumia 822. There were some problems with apps in the windowsphone store specific to youtube playing videos in the app. One of the best which is metrotube is working again. Youtube the site has always worked :)

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 02:08 8

6. Edmund (Posts: 654; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


Google will learn the hard way the meaning of the term "anti trust". Android fanboys like xperi-knight,meocao, and rusticguy should actually read the source link before blindly defending them.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 02:11 9

8. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


And you should read about what M$ is doing under the garb of their secure boot cr@p. I am FOSS Fanboy and have no shame in proclaiming that :)

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 02:20 9

10. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2431; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


i dont have to read anything to know that selfishness and arrogance wont get you anywhere bro.....the proof is always in the puddin

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 02:34 4

11. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


No, you just don't want the same thing to be true about your house pet Google. Browse the web for some of the anti-trust stories about Google, don't be such a blindfolded fanboy.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 02:41 8

14. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2431; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


Like i said the proof is always in the puddin, if google is doing microsoft wrong..........IT WILL SHOW.......if microsoft isnt paying for what they want, or "asking properly" then they will continue to get what they're getting now........no help!

Simple as that..........not a fan boy of just google, BUT OF WHATS RIGHT!

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:08 5

26. wendygarett (unregistered)


Yes Microsoft is wrong, but that doesn't mean Google is right... Both play anti trust but you praise Google instead... What's your point here?

You remind me that Apple defeat Microsoft for being monopolist and all those crowded brainwashed fans keep praising Apple for being a hero... Now Google is hero and you praise him? Just like ifans did? Smh

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:15 5

31. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2431; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


God wendy......you REEEELY try my patients.......you need to learn how to stop coming at me as if you know what i mean......

First off, DID YOU READ MY POST?

If you did, you will see CLEARLY.......that i said if GOOGLE IS DOING MICROSOFT WRONG........IT WILL SHOW!!!!

You really are pissing me off wendy and as much as i try to help you, you keep trying to "test" me

The only problem i see here IS YOUR DAMN EGO...........you will learn soon enough i promise you that...

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:24 2

34. wendygarett (unregistered)


I'm sorry is either I misunderstood you, or you have shown your hatred towards non-google organization... That's what I seen in your comments...

You say IT WILL SHOW!! show what? You did not clarify that as many commenters here are bad English dude... And they will misunderstand you and accused you biased... And I almost did that again :(

I now take that again, my apologies...

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:32 2

41. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2431; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


yea but you gotta learn that, just cuz "YOU" dont understand something doesnt give you the right to try and make someone look as if they are bad!

IT WILL SHOW...........what i meant by that was whoever is in the wrong here will be brought to justice wendy.........if google is playing unfair then they deserve to get whats coming to them.........if microsoft is being "foolish" here, then they will get what they are receiving NOW...
which is nothing

do you get that?

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:37 2

43. wendygarett (unregistered)


I understand now :D
It's been a 10 years and m$ finally get what they deserve... You should thanks to Mr gates for abandon ms bro :)

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 03:52 4

46. big.e927 (Posts: 94; Member since: 21 Nov 2012)


@Xperia-knight & @WendyGarett get a room.lol jk

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 04:07 1

53. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2431; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


#taken .........LOOOOL

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 04:03 3

51. Henrik.IS.Mark.Penn (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


You mean
search the web
and see the FOSS muller that WERE PAID BY MICROSOFT TO DISCREDIT GOOGLE???

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 04:42 1

60. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


Cute name. How old are you again?

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 14:54

97. The.Truth.IS.Out.There (Posts: 3; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)


I search the WEB as you instructed, and I found this
readwrite.com/2013/01/03/googles-ftc-settlement-is​​-an-epic-fail-for-microsoft

It turn out that Microsoft is MORE EVIL than anyone ever thought possible.

They cheat, lie, etc. I think Microsoft need to be taught a lesson.

quote:
"The Shadow War

For years Microsoft has devoted massive resources and energy to waging a sneaky shadow war against Google, fielding an army of lobbyists and front groups that exist almost completely to spread anti-Google propaganda, including ICOMP.org, Association for Competitive Technology, FairSearch and SafeGov

They call themselves “industry groups,” and they have lots of members, but they’re basically Microsoft fronts devoted to hating on Google. Take a glance through ICOMP’s newsroom and Voices” section and white papers and ICOMP in the News section. It’s pretty much all Google, all the time — and all negative. It’s a whole website devoted to bashing Google, and frankly it’s kind of incredible, in a twisted way.
"
...........
click on the link for the full EVIL

posted on 04 Jan 2013, 05:56

102. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


Yeah, nice try. Credible source from credible authors. Please, stop embarrassing yourself. I have already agreed on Microsoft having used shady business tacticcts from time to time, but your source link is no source. It's a blog post, and by so obviously filled with a lot of personal opinions too.

Are you stupid enough to think that Google is not using lobbyist organizations too? REALLY?

posted on 04 Jan 2013, 06:09

103. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


Here you go:
http://news.yahoo.com/google-facebook-set-company-records-lobbyist-spending-175837556.html

"Google increased its lobbyist spending from $1.48 million in the first quarter to $2.06 million in the second. For the first time, the company is spending more on lobbyists than Microsoft."

The truth hurts, right?

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 02:36 1

12. joey_sfb (Posts: 2883; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


M$ the convicted monopolist also never die what make you think google that is 1000 times better than M$ would.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 10:50 2

82. papss (unregistered)


Agreed... Fanboys are fine but blind fanboys are morons who can't afford multiple products and feel the need to blast everything they don't have

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 02:48 7

16. therealestmc (Posts: 129; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


WP users can always use the site. I don't see that the big deal is. MS is acting like Google owes the YouTube api.

posted on 03 Jan 2013, 02:53 6

18. shuaibhere (Posts: 1381; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Lol..microsoft complaining about google....howmany MS applications or available for other OSes??????

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