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Microsoft responds to Apple jabs with an uppercut: not worried about "watered down productivity apps"

0. phoneArena 24 Oct 2013, 08:02 posted on

If you follow tech news closely you already know about the latest launches - two days ago two important tablet events happened…

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posted on 24 Oct 2013, 08:03 35

1. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


MS Office > iWorks

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 08:07 11

2. Reality_Check (Posts: 277; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


Free (Lifetime) > $99 (1 Year WTF?)

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 08:16 4

5. tiara6918 (Posts: 2065; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)


Let's not forget that there is still such a thing called piracy. Although I have to admit that iWork is making things more convenient by offering it for free

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 08:33 4

11. rd_nest (Posts: 1605; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


Elaborate please.

Which is free lifetime and what is $99??

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 10:14 8

27. Reality_Check (Posts: 277; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


Please read the article before commenting.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 08:40 9

14. dsDoan (Posts: 229; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)


Basing your decision on price is basing your decision on ignorance.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 10:14

25. Reality_Check (Posts: 277; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


So, you're saying price shouldn't be a factor?

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 10:56 1

30. dsDoan (Posts: 229; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)


Price is always a factor, but it is to be considered along with many other factors.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 11:57 4

33. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Unfortunately, that happens all too often. Anyhows, it will be a long time before iWork rivals the depth of function in Office. Kind of how iMaps compares to Google Maps.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 09:03 4

18. infinitemethod (Posts: 149; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


Oh wow, they offer free applications now! Revolutionary! I mean, best thing since sliced bread.... But don't you worry, they'll make their money from insanely over priced products.

You probably paid an extra $100 for 16GB of non-expandable storage. Maybe you went a step further paying a whopping $200 for 48GB of non-expandable storage.

Also, I'd pay for MS Office every year than not pay for it and have some horrible copy.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 09:31 8

24. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


They offered it free as it is useless.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 11:56 3

32. Chaseism (Posts: 82; Member since: 08 May 2013)


So here's the thing...iWork has existed since 2005. It's not like the product came out a few days ago. And there have been many alternatives to Microsoft Office, even free ones (Google's OpenOffice) because Microsoft Office is ridiculously expensive for most people. I've used Pages, Numbers, and Keynote for about 4 or 5 years and I've never really needed Office. You can save files as .pages or .doc so I can share with my Microsoft friends. It's a pretty good piece of software if you've tried it.

Also, if you have a Surface tab, you know that a good amount of that HD space they give you is taken up by the OS. So although you may pay more with Apple...Apple doesn't take over your entire hard drive with the OS itself...

http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/support/storage-files-and-folders/surface-disk-space-faq

Surface RT:
The 32 GB version has approximately 15 GB free hard disk space.
The 64 GB version has approximately 45 GB free hard disk space.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 12:09 1

34. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Chase, IDK what you use iWork for, but the spreadsheet (Numbers?) leaves a lot to be desired.

There is a reason why soo many financial professionals with iToys have been begging MS to release an iOS version of Office. No iOS Office has held back a larger scale adoption of the iPad in the financial sector. There is a footprint, but it could be much larger with an iOS version of Office.

Which is probably why MS hasn't released an iOS version of Office.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 12:34

39. Chaseism (Posts: 82; Member since: 08 May 2013)


I absolutely agree with you on Numbers. Excel is far more robust in terms of advanced options. Your average consumer won't be using it for those things. But I wouldn't recommend a business use iWork unless they know specifically that it will work for them.

The thing is, Microsoft has business on lock already. Their problem is the consumer market. Their argument against iWork is perfect in terms of business, but not in the area that they are hoping to make headway.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 12:24

37. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


office comes free yeah IF you on SURFACE :P not icrapad

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 13:47

41. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Surface has expandable storage, your disk space argument is invalid.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 18:51

50. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


OoenOffice isn't google's (it's done by Apache), you're thinking google docs. Both are decent but lacking compared to Microsoft Office.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 20:46

54. 14545 (Posts: 1604; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


Personally, I think that there are plenty of viable alternatives for most of office....EXCEPT excel. Excel is by far the best piece of software MS has ever created. I don't care for word or outlook though. That being said, I still think the 99 a year is over priced. 50 would be reasonable IMO.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 10:31

29. Muzhhur (Posts: 260; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)


you need to save as Excel 97-20013?? iwork then means It does not work

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 12:21

36. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


yeah sure documents you cant open in anything that is not iWORK :P lolz brillent so what is great about it then

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 12:56 1

40. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3027; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Although $99 is still a lot of money, it does mean you can use office on 5 devices (pc/mac/mobile). So basically it's 5 licenses for $99. Still.... iWorks is free....

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 15:20

43. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


when it comes to tablets, there are numerous alternative apps as well as on PC that are free or much lower cost than MS Office. With the savings, you can also save on the cheaper tablet or pc than what Apple offers.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 18:44 1

49. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


For those who want free, there's always Open Office, which is a good, but not equal, alternative to Microsoft Office. Iwork is an iJoke.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 20:48

56. 14545 (Posts: 1604; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


I personally think google docs is a good viable alternative for everything except excel. And Thunderbird IMO is better than outlook. I doubt anything will ever replace excel though.

posted on 26 Oct 2013, 04:40

62. microsoftnokiawin (Posts: 1178; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


office 365 is $99 and it's meant for big businesses while you can just get office 2012 or 2014 for a lifetime subscription

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 10:56

63. xtremesv (Posts: 298; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)


Let's not forget that iWork will be free only for new iPads. 170 million iPads are simply left out so I accord with Microsoft, Apple's move is not big deal.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 08:18 2

7. RoyalPayne (banned) (Posts: 458; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)


It's steve ballmer laughing at iPhone all over again. No need to guess where his visions went from there.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qycUOENFIBs

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 09:10 5

20. cezarepc (Posts: 716; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)


Visual Basic is enough reason for me to stay with MS.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 15:34 3

44. Heritor (Posts: 47; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)


I'll take Google Docs. If MS was smart they would just end up making Office free and then making a professional variant that warrant the price.

posted on 24 Oct 2013, 20:50

57. 14545 (Posts: 1604; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


Exactly. I pro version that unlocks certain functionality.

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