Microsoft plans on sticking with Qualcomm for Windows Phone chip sets
0. phoneArena 23 Apr 2014, 14:17 posted on
One of the reasons why some Chinese manufacturers are able to pump out extremely cheap Android handsets, is the low price they pay companies like MediaTek for the CPU employed on these phones. In China, and some other Asian regions, it is not unusual to find a quad-core powered device selling for the equivalent of $130 USD. The success of the Xiaomi Hongmi (aka the Red Rice) shows that there is demand for low priced value phones...
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1. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Beyond using more affordable processors, the other big reason Chinese phones and devices are less expensive is that the companies that make them are not as greedy as Samsung or Apple.
The OnePlus One, for instance, has a more-expensive-than-Mediatek Qualcomm 801 processor and is quite reasonably priced, less than half the price of a Samsung Galaxy S5.
4. dome888 (Posts: 71; Member since: 10 Oct 2012)
the only reason chinese companies can build it cheap is by making their workers prisoners.
MS made the right thing by sticking with Qualcomm an american company.
7. Topcat488 (Posts: 1381; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
M$ moved their production to China also... And QualComm is only an American Company by "NAME", like Apple! They produce their chips in Taiwan. O.o
18. james004 (Posts: 486; Member since: 15 May 2013)
when did you ever hear TSMC's employee suiciding because the they were being prisoned to work?
only foxconn does that.
19. sgodsell (Posts: 2816; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
Microsoft only supports Qualcomm. When there is so many other Arm processors from Nvidia, Broadcom, Mediatek, Rockchip, Samsung, STM, and many more. All of which support and already run Android. Microsoft has no plans to support any other CPUs from other manufacturers, because Microsoft has vested interest in Qualcomm.
20. sgodsell (Posts: 2816; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
I should have added that Microsoft wants other OEMS to sign up and make WP devices. But in China, India and other emerging markets use what ever components they can find to cut the costs down. So chip vendors like Broadcom, Mediatek, Rockchip, and more are used. Even Samsung uses their own chips like the Exynos. Soon LG is going to start producing their own Arm chips for their phones. WP will never grow in the emerging markets because of the limitations. I guess that's why Microsoft and Nokia went with Android instead of using WP for the line up of Nokia X devices.
13. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
All the big manufacturers use Chinese or equivalent cost labor to help build their phones. It's not a labor cost delta that results in the enormous end customer price differences.
As for how the workers are treated, in general I really don't think a Chinese company would treat their workers worse than a foreign company would.
2. grahaman27 (Posts: 361; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Do they have a choice? What other options are there if you want LTE?
5. npaladin2000 (Posts: 165; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
NVIDIA has a softmodem for Tegra 4i now.
12. jroc74 (Posts: 5853; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
This is a good point. Any other solution would mean getting together with Motorola or Samsung. Staying with Qualcomm is the easier option IMO.
But...I thought Nokia could come up with something like Motorola did for LTE? In Moto Android phones....its Qualcomm hardware and some in house stuff by Moto. Same for Samsung...in house Samsung hardware.
As for Nvidia...they have been hit n miss for phones. Moto only used them for 1 phone then went on to develop their own hardware. It caused some delays...but in the end it was worth it.
14. nokia12 (Posts: 452; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)
mediatek 6595 has integrated LTE and all of their new chips from now will have integrated LTE ..
3. brrunopt (Posts: 739; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
I don't see how the performance is a excuse.. A QC MediaTek is at level or better than a low end Snapdragon (S200/400)
Also NEO is still keeping theirs statement that they are working WP 8.1 for the NEO M1 (with a 1.3GHz MediaTek MT6582 ) .´
Is this with Microsoft support or are they (NEO) changing WP to support Mediatek SOCs ?
6. npaladin2000 (Posts: 165; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
On the upside, this has to be really annoying for Samsung. On the downside, this means no Tegra/GeForce graphics for Windows Phone users. On the other upside, maybe they'll give up and come back to Android. :)
8. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Microsoft has some sort of deal with Nvidia for tablet chips in the Surface RT. At least so far, Nvidia hasn't made a chip that will do well in the phone as they are just too power hungry. So it doesn't really matter. It'll be years, if ever, when Nvidia has a real phone chip.
10. grahaman27 (Posts: 361; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
That's a myth, nvidia's omition from phones has always been due to lack of CDMA and integrates LTE support.
Their biggest hit was with the HTC one x, but it didn't support LTE and was soon after obsoleted.
11. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2180; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
What's the advantages, of having a octa core handset, warming up in your hands? (I assume it does)
15. express77 (unregistered)
Didn't qualcomm mocked octacore mediatech chips not long ago? Now they are making their.
16. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Qualcomm called 64-bit a gimmick, mocked eight core chips, and now are going as fast as they can to make both. They are basically a company that did a good job with Krait for 32 bit and then stopped working. Now they are back to working hard. Maybe 2015 they will have some better chips.
17. Sriniva1995 (Posts: 41; Member since: 06 Nov 2013)
Hey hold on, qualcomm has octacore processors how is it that windiws wont have octacore