Microsoft now scalping patent royalties from 70% of Android device makers globally
0. phoneArena 10 Jul 2012, 05:07 posted on
With the last two scalps it gathered from two smaller Android manufacturers - Coby and Aluratek - Microsoft is already at collecting royalties from 70% of all companies that make devices running Google's mobile OS...
This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here
1. Gemmol (Posts: 543; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
Make your money M-Soft, you deserve it all for what you created
2. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
MS collecting royalties then use these royalties to support nokia. Epic! :))
5. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
getting thumbs down for being real :)) i coudn't agree more to you thumbdownarmy.
6. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
well I dont think they will, MS will eventually make phones, just like the surface
3. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
many people think that apple is the only company that sues the other companies, microsoft is the company that started the war on android, they quietly collect a lot of money but the android fanboys are busy criticizing apple........actually, every company loves to make money from or stop the progress of the other companies because everyone works for money...........had dennis ritchie patented c c++ and unix, none of these companies would have existed
4. MalakiMills (Posts: 256; Member since: 15 Jun 2010)
I think the main difference is that Microsoft is out to get money, and Apple is out to ban the competition.
9. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
even apple said that it would they would be happy if google gives them money....didn't you know that?..........there are many small companies that were badly hit by microsoft's greed............if apple also gets money from android phones, then those manufacturers will lose a lot, they will be forced to sell cheap phones at higher prices and only companies like samsung will be left in the market............don't you think its unfair?
10. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 645; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
So getting your device banned and not making any money at all is better? Yea that makes a lot of sense *sarcasm*. Apple will not be able to take more than FRAND rules allow so the company would still make a good bit of revenue off the devices it sells.
MS plays it smarter and taking in royalties makes much more sense than banning things, MS makes money, the manufacturer makes money everyone is happy.
11. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
but i think MS should give them license for a reasonable price instead of making money from every device, if they go in that way, dennis ritchie should ask money for using c lang, edison should ask money for making light with current(the display)....and last but not the least, tim berners lee should sue you for using internet that was invented by him...............apple is moving in the right way because if u copy them, u will be sued, in that way, the rival may end up making something better, which is good for technology.........and devices that didn't copy apple will be sold at the right price.....now is the galaxy s3 banned in usa???? no, it isn't
13. bayusuputra (Posts: 941; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
dude, i can't believe that you are contradicting yourself to the very best..
MS should give them licence for a reasonable price:
Why not apple? they did not want to collect money from licensing, nor they want to collect money for every android sold, they want a thermonuclear war to wipe out android completely..
People who did not sue/patent stuff are actually the ones who promote growth. Even if they did patent, i'm quite sure they will licence it instead of running around BANNING others. Why ban? You eliminate your chances of getting additional income, smart move by Apple there..
Apple is moving the right way? no way..
If yes, then why every android OEM said that their litigation actually curbs growth instead of expanding it? It is because Apple patented the heck out of iOS devices with stupid and ridiculous patents like slide to unlock, data tapping, bounce scroll, rectangle with rounded corners and flat surface..
And, since when did Apple said they would be happy if android OEMs paid them $15/device?
The only thing they want is for android to be eliminated, and the smartphone industry to be led by the one and only Apple's iOS devices. They can't sue MS for WP, nor RIMs for BB, but i bet if they have the patents, they will eliminate them, too..
And $15 is too steep for licensing fees of those ridiculous patents..
Look at MS, they licence the patents by asking the OEMs to pay per device, and ask them to make Windows Phones, too..
For MS, the fees are additional income, and the WP are another source of revenue
For the OEMs, they now have additional OS for their devices, wider product range, which customers can choose from, hence they can possibly generate more income from that.
What about Apple? Will they do the same?
no, they won't allow OEMs to have iOS for their devices, they won't licence their stupid-as-f**k patents, they only want to ban other competitors, and for us customers, that means we can only choose from iPhone 4 (16/32/64) black/white, or iPhone 4S (16/32/64) black/white. If you want different design, although only slightly diff? get the 3G/3GS/original iPhone.. Awesome, isn't it, to live a life without choices? *sarcasm, in case you don't understand one..
14. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
so you agree that those android cannot survive without copying others? i just want them to make their own stuff.....wouldn't that be good? in the process of inventing new technology they might do something that could change the world.....what is the use of having a company if u will copy others and then pay money to them, its foolish..........i feel that apple is right because i want android(google) and the android phone manufacturers to invent something that would make the other companies feel like copying them...that is the way things develop....i don't want to give money to microsoft for buying an android phone...............people are under estimating google,they can do more......now microsoft and apple are not paying each other because they made their own stuff or copied from multiple sources in an intelligent way(research).......many people don't like apple because they don't have apple products.....but the truth is that microsoft is equally active in suing other companies
15. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
accept the truth as soon as you can, this is ma last comment on this page
16. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
i think you are an android or a pc fanboy, or a person from the poorer section of the society
12. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
apple said that they would be happy if they are paid $15 for every android phone that is sold........apple will not file any lawsuit against android phones if they are paid $15, is that okay? isn't that too much?
17. jazzman666 (Posts: 7; Member since: 10 Jul 2012)
It's all about the money ..... Here is a thought ... Car makers for example ,why don't they sue each other for who inveted the 4 or 6 cylynder engine ?!?!?
19. cdgoin (Posts: 369; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)
They pay royalties in some cases.. Even then after a while all patents expire. Probably depends on the motor. I believe this is why Mazda tried to stay with the Rotary.. it was their paid for patents.. so even though motor cost more, there was a savings due to not having to pay for certain patents..
18. cdgoin (Posts: 369; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)
Its simple.. look at WinCE (1-3), WinMO 5.0 and 6.0 some basic UI features are still in all mobile OSs', including iPhone and Android.. Those that don't understand the past can not understand the present or the future. MS has over a decade of hand held PDA/Smartphone tech under their belt. The first MS PDA was 1997 the HP-300LX.. The first iphone in Jan 2007, and first Android in 2008.. a FULL DECADE after Windows CE1.0.. so to not think Apple and Android have a LOT of MS tech in their underpinnings is wrong. In the world of Tech having a 10 year lead, is like a century lead in any other field.
So they deserve to be paid by the manufacturers, which so does Motorola, who also holds a lot of early cell phone and such patents. Which is why Google bought them to help protect android. Kind of surprised Google didnt look at MS for royalties on Motorola patents.
As someone pointed out.. MS has most the REAL and useful patent ideas that run smart phones, Motorola the data and voice patents, Apple the "Gee whiz" thats "cool" modificaation of existing ideas and patents.
Proof Apple doesn't and hasn't invented anything, only polished up others ideas. It's been like that since the beginning.. ask Xerox. Then try to push the others out.. Remember them suing MS for being a "monopoly".. now its patent suits against other phone makers.
20. jazzman666 (Posts: 7; Member since: 10 Jul 2012)
That means I am not allowed to create anything or think of anything ... Supposedly I went to the bathroom to defecate and I called it " iCrap" apple Or MS are going to sue me because one of them had patented the word 30 years ago same the as the invention of the wheel ..... Who invented the wheel ? ... It's a game of greed ... Bill Gates is worth 50 billion or so ! Steve jobs was worth a lot of money too . ... The iPhone actual cost s 70$ in Foxconn sweat factory .. by the time it gets to any country its worth 600-1000 $ usd ! I believe if the iPhone was made in USA I would buy but because they want to make 1000% profit by producing it in a sweat shops in china with bad conditions , with an average salary of 150$/month or less for a laborer and this goes with Microsoft too ..... You guys do the math !
21. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
All I will say is.....Microsoft doesnt want Android to disappear....anytime soon...
And about the comparison to Apple. It has to be something different with MS. Maybe Apple wants too much money? Maybe MS doesnt want anything banned?
Maybe...just maybe...whatever MS has is actually realistic...and Apple's lawsuits are petty and anal? I still dont think we know what MS is getting paid for.
23. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6674; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
the Hell with M$. Their too damn lazy like APPLE unable to compete against the competition. instead of marketing and using R&D they take free money from every android company. this is not a healthy way to compete