Microsoft marketing executive Sullivan says Windows Phone now has 5% (global) market share

22. Droid_X_Doug posted on 10 Jan 2013, 10:37 2 0

They do appear to be displacing RIM for the number 3 spot. Hopefully their long hiatus in the boonies has given them some humility. It would be great to see MS and its handset partners pushing the innovation envelope without the arrogance that MS displayed in times past.

4. rabih_z posted on 10 Jan 2013, 05:30 4 3

how did you get your number?

11. thunderbolt posted on 10 Jan 2013, 06:25 2 2

Check Gartner report of Nov 2012. Says 2.4% for till Q3 2012.

15. -box- posted on 10 Jan 2013, 08:07 1 1

Yeah, taking out half of a quarter is going to give accurate figures for the same quarter.
5% is reasonable and probable, and will continue to grow.

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21. NexusKoolaid posted on 10 Jan 2013, 10:18 0 1

Meh. Not interested in what Gartner has to say, nor what this Sullivan guy has to say. Show me some concrete data, like sell-though sales numbers, activation reports and/or independent network traffic reports.

I hate to sound too skeptical, it's just that everything coming out of Microsoft makes it seem they are doing well, yet for all WP's supposed success I have yet to see a single WP device in the field. I'm a tech junkie and I work in a tech industry. I notice other people's phones, and at this point the landscape is nothing but iOS and Android (with just a small handful of folks clinging to their Symbian feature phones).

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26. thunderbolt posted on 10 Jan 2013, 14:29 0 1

If it was a success someone would have been "Monkey Dancing" at CES all over the stage.

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24. chuyauchi posted on 10 Jan 2013, 11:39 0 1

Q3 is too early. WP8 devices (such as Lumia 920, HTC 8X, Samsung Ativ S... etc.) are just startted selling. The number will continue to grow because of Indian and Chinese market.

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20. NexusKoolaid posted on 10 Jan 2013, 10:02 1 1

You are correct on one point - Nothing will stay forever, Everything will come down someday. No argument there. As far as your ordering of OS dominance and the 'soon' timeline for Android's decline, it's all wild guess and speculation.

12. Henrik posted on 10 Jan 2013, 06:27 4 1

All smartphone camps (except BlackBerry and Symbian) are growing since there are more and more previously non-smartphone users coming in, buying their first smartphone. But the camps grow at unequal pace because of their uneven existing user base. Android has the "friend effect" to make 50-70 people out of 100 to recommend Android to a friend (since the market share of Android is 50-70%), while Windows Phone who came in later only have 3-5 people available to recommend the phone to their friends. This is why it takes such time and resources to overthrow Android and iOS. They simply have too many existing users invested in the platform.

Windows Phone, though, is more than doubling its user base each year. Around 130% increase Year-over-Year. But since iOS and Android gains from the "friend effect" in a much bigger way since they have larger user base(s) already existing, they gain more market share without even having to double their user base.

To make it as an understandable example:
70 million Android users available to recommend their platform or affect other friends into following their footsteps is a Lot more people than 5 million available Windows Phone users doing the same thing. This is why the growth is so extremely unequal and "unfair".

Windows Phone is the fastest growing mobile OS out there, but since it grows out of a much smaller number (doubling a smaller user base) - it gets drowned in the flood of the spam that is Android, manufactured by every single smartphone OEM out there except BlackBerry, Nokia and Apple. Every s**tty OEM you can think of is producing an Android handset, no matter how good it is or if they later on want to keep supporting the handset or not. So Android handsets are available at All price points Everywhere in Massive scale, all around the globe. Which Windows Phone is (still) not.

The real loser is RIM/BlackBerry and Symbian, which are losing customers instead of gaining new ones. So all camps except those two are gaining customers on the expense of BlackBerry and Symbian, while also attracting new smartphone users who up until now only have used a dumbphone.

28. carlosechev07 posted on 10 Jan 2013, 18:33 0 0

What is going to happen in the next year or two..?

17. -box- posted on 10 Jan 2013, 08:11 0 2

It's not just about app count.
Also, they WP Marketplace is growing faster (in terms of app count) than any other app store yet in history, or it was last I read a report on it. And they're mostly good, quality apps, not 20 versions of a fart sound maker, or wallpaper and sound packs, and junk like that.

10. thunderbolt posted on 10 Jan 2013, 06:14 0 1

Problem is Eric (GOOG) doesn't talk much and others take advantage and fed the press. Balmer says saless are 5 times since last year and that becomes a news ... then same news gets repeated by some other person of same company barely 3 days later in other format and that again becomes a news ...

18. thunderbolt posted on 10 Jan 2013, 09:01 0 1

YoY figures would be best indicators. India we only see these phones advertised by 2 actors on TV ... no more.

16. Ruckus posted on 10 Jan 2013, 08:08 0 1

You will soon. Its catching on pretty fast. We've been sold out of our Lumia's at times. On the other hand I've never seen anyone with the newest Nexus. I hear their constantly sold out but we can't seem to sell any?!

19. thunderbolt posted on 10 Jan 2013, 09:02 0 2

Nexus is/was a Google ploy to force Apple into thinking about "Affordable Phones" and it seems the trick worked going b

27. Ruckus posted on 10 Jan 2013, 16:07 0 1

Yeah hi im not am employee of Microsoft and I sell phones for a living. We have a decent sized crowd of Windows Phone 8 fans. I bought my wife a Lumia and my next upgrade im buying one for myself. You should try one out if you haven't already. After using one it makes me hate Android and all of its inferiorities.