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Microsoft gets Motorola's Android phones banned in Germany

0. phoneArena 27 Jul 2012, 07:34 posted on

It looks like Motorola will be joining the rest of the Android gang and start paying license fees to Microsoft for using technology invented (patented) by Redmond...

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posted on 27 Jul 2012, 07:39 5

1. mercorp (Posts: 1030; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)


Trying to convert motorola to wp8?
Microsoft shows its "be evil' philosophy against google again.

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 07:46 9

7. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


that wont happen since Google owns moto

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 17:09 1

51. nightelf91 (Posts: 20; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)


Not entirely true. Google owns Motorola Mobility (patent division), not Motorola Solutions (hardware maker).

posted on 29 Jul 2012, 18:38

56. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


Motorola Mobility is the handset/phone division (with its own set of patents) and Motorola solutions makes set top boxes and other things that are not phones.

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 09:34

21. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Don't think MS trying to convert anyone. Well at one point MS did try to court Moto to become a WP oem. Google beat MS to the punch.

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 15:04

38. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Well, Google could just implement a non-FAT filesystem solution in Android.... As the German court noted, there are other alternatives.

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 15:58

44. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


actually android has capabilities to use EXT file system and there are other, but fat is quite popular because of windows so manufacturers want to use popular files systems to avoid making workarounds and making users life simpler

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 16:52 1

49. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Well, for the short-term (at least in Germany), it would seem that disabling the FAT file system is an alternative to a sales ban.

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 07:40 10

2. pistolashtc (Posts: 29; Member since: 28 Dec 2010)


Why is everybody banning android devices from everywhere??

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 07:43 6

5. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


Because they're Nazis (or, iNazis)ยก

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 08:12 11

10. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


This is Microsoft not Apple... Stop trolling and go outside.

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 11:31 1

32. Pings (Posts: 303; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Apple has done it too....

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 12:26

58. iami67 (Posts: 318; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Hey papasmurf your the one trolling he didnt say anything about apple he said why is everything not why is apple. learn to read silly boy

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 08:53 14

14. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Google is trampling on people's ip. Companies won't stand for it.

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 09:26 5

16. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


READ Motorola, and is related to FAT file system, you know what FAT is you know where FAR is used? doubt you do no go away... REPORTED

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 10:34 1

29. troutsy (Posts: 313; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)


Thumbs up because I think you were going to make a good point if it was in English.

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 11:05

31. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


My bad :s

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 15:28

40. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Google owns Moto.

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 16:02

45. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


you know this "infringement" came before Google bought moto? how log has it actually passed since the acquisition was completed? how many of the infiging phones should have been products influenced directly by Google? I guess some people just want to see the world burn

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 13:15 1

36. Commentator (Posts: 3709; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


taco50 with more upvotes than downvotes?!? I'm screen-capping this one!

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 10:20

26. nofear (Posts: 151; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)


Because it can not be compete!

posted on 28 Jul 2012, 01:53

54. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


Because they (Apple + Microsoft=pure evil) are scared of the innovations for free for people's progress

posted on 28 Jul 2012, 02:08

55. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14192; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Because Android infringes on a lot of patents.

posted on 29 Jul 2012, 23:10

57. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


no, because Apple steals a lot of ridiculous patents:
http://goo gl/04pud
and Apple is complete rotten company:
https://sites.google com/site/corpsins/
just deal with the facts, not just talk without any detailed argument like you do ;)

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 07:41 6

3. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


iThought HiTler was dead?

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 07:41 2

4. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


MS is making a killing from android devices.

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 07:48 2

8. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


dunno, its not helping them get more customers, I honestly though the FAT system was FRAND long ago, oh well that's how things roll these days

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 09:27 1

18. Aeires (unregistered)


Yeah, pay it and move on. Better yet, pull a Samsung and work out a licensing deal to make W8 phones to the fees balance out. Just because Google owns Motorola doesn't mean they have to be a one horse show, especially when they've said Motorola would retain it's own identity.

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 15:11 1

39. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


FAT-16 was introduced with the IBM PC back around 1984. If 1984 is the date the FAT patent was issued, it is approaching expiration. The expiration could be extended through continuations, but as a general rule, continuations cover the new subject matter only. Moto may be better served by appealing the sales ban.

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 16:05

46. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


they will probably go for that, waiting for the patent "blessed time " to run out, but they can also pay until they don't need to do so if forced otherwise

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