Microsoft gets Motorola patent invalidated in Europe because it was "obvious"
0. phoneArena 21 Dec 2012, 17:28 posted on
This is a ruling that we'd love to see coming through a lot more often in patent lawsuits in the US, but unfortunately, this news is coming from the UK. Microsoft has won a trial against Motorola (and therefore Google) in Europe, which has led to a Motorola patent being invalidated because the technology it covered was deemed to be "obvious"...
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1. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
Jeezes M$ stop this trial already we are all sick and tired of patent trials.
16. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
it was countering the patent by MS to be on safe side not fining motorola
2. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Obvious? We'll call it even when you invalidate MS' patent on making two SMS msgs appear as one...
...and the stupid meeting appointment one...
Funny how apple suffered a ban due to that patent...
3. joey_sfb (Posts: 5330; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Companies really enjoy spending all those money in patents and lawsuits that bring zero value to the countries economy.
The open market should be the only place to decide whether a product or innovation brings values. Every innovation build on the foundation of other innovations. Human race has evolve on that principle for centuries.
10. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Advocates who fight in courtroom and the courtroom itself doesn't operate free :)
4. MeoCao (unregistered)
I love Google and don't like MS, but I think this invalidation is good for technology. Broad patents on such trivial matters will do harm to innovation.
Hopefully all such patents will be invalidated.
5. theBankRobber (Posts: 676; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)
How about the slide to unlock patent??? But its Apple so it with be OK to use in courts, apple will get money from OEM's. Then they invalidate the patent and everyone is to be OK with it?!?!?! Screw this nonsense. I'm tired of Microsoft and Apple playing the innocent ones when in reality they are the most evil companies out there. Scream FRAND all you fanboys want but the truth is slowly coming out.
6. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
The UK court DID rule it invalid due to the Neonode1, thanks to the recent apple trial vs. samsung.
7. MeoCao (unregistered)
Apple gets nothings from slide to unlock patent.
This is only unique way to unlock and it can be replaced easily by Google and Android OEMs.
But some Apple broad and generic patents are being invalidated now and expect more to come.
12. 8logic (Posts: 148; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)
people have been sliding things to lock and unlock things forever............. just think about it
13. MeoCao (unregistered)
Maybe u r right, but why waste time and efforts to fight a worthless patent? Apple tried to use that patent to sue others but was told they can't do that again.
And we have millions of better ways to unlock things.
18. theBankRobber (Posts: 676; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)
Apple had won slide to unlock against Motorola in Germany, that's why most of Motorola's devices have been banned from the country. Its bulls**t and should be looked into. I'm tired of Microsoft and Apple saying how they NEED to ban other devices for s**tty patents but when its the other way around, they feel like they deserve the royal treatment and not get banned. Hey the Wifi patent from Motorola is just as important as slide to unlock.
8. johnnh (Posts: 37; Member since: 18 Dec 2012)
are you joking? the judge is an idiot, pager system is fairly complicated to make it "obvious". I mean, unless this man has a phd, a degree in comunications enginering, and a degree in law he has no right to call that obvious. That is the problem with common law system, it's too subjective.
11. JC557 (Posts: 1321; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
Not to mention that Motorola had a hand in pushing the era of cellphones.
9. shuaibhere (Posts: 1983; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Then why the heck MS charging fees from android OEMs for obvious patents?????
17. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
because other OEMS dont go to court to invalidate them :P
14. papss (unregistered)
Oh for the love of god.. You android fanboys are amazingly dense.. This is an obvious and should be invalidated.. You cry because Samsung got sued over a silly patent now you cry about them correcting a silly patent.. Just stop already.. There are many more that need invalidated.. Slide to unlock included
15. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
they see this as a slap to there android castle, its pathetic
when they say abot silly patents they only mean anyone who arent using android on there devices. if samsung had the rounded corner crap patent most on here would cheer genius............its the way fanboys are
i think the patent system needs a complete overhaul, so many stupid ones that are too vague. all patents should be specific and for real innovation, ground breaking idea's with concepts and working prototypes etc
19. putes (Posts: 38; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
Now, I am disappointed that this judgement when against Motorola since I feel Apple is guilty of having more obvious patents that anyone else. However, I am happy that the patent offices have started to raise the bar before they grant a patent and they also have started to review past ones.