Microsoft denies plans for Surface phone, bashes Android
0. phoneArena 16 Apr 2013, 20:06 posted on
There have been rumors floating around about Microsoft working on its own Windows Phone hardware since last year. But yesterday, Microsoft’s corporate vice president of Windows Phone, Terry Myerson, put those rumors to rest by saying that there is no Surface phone in the works in Redmond...
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2. shuaibhere (Posts: 1983; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
K i see...this isn't trolling???
No valid point...simply bashing....
4. ZeroCide (Posts: 762; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)
He can deny it but he doesn't really know.
5. papss (unregistered)
At least they didn't hide it like that Korean company...
19. shuaibhere (Posts: 1983; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Why can't you directly reply to me???
but that doesn't hide the fact that MS is more pathetic than the so called korean company...
21. papss (unregistered)
I wasn't speaking to you and I don't see where you were speaking to me... Anyways I think both are pretty pathetic right now but for different reasons
10. umadden (banned) (Posts: 90; Member since: 14 Apr 2013)
wait until nokia increases the wp8 marketshare against ios and android. then microsoft will make the surface phone, say "bye nokia, we don't need you anymore!" and eat up all the marketshare from nokia
12. papss (unregistered)
Wow you are so smart.. You must know M$ inside thoughts...
20. lyndon420 (Posts: 3655; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Doubt they would say bye to Nokia. Ms would more likely wait for the right time to buy Nokia since they have been injecting millions into Nokia.
44. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 495; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
MS should buy Nokia. Google already bought Motorola. I guess the one being left out here is Samsung.
13. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
Instead of being jealous MS how bout making more newer ways with WINDOWS OS. and stop TAKING FREE MONEY from Android
18. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
another MS executive shows his big EGO and jealously against ANDROID. and doesn't discuss why they SUE
22. tiara6918 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
There's someone who is seriously trolling big time here. I know we all have our own personal opinions and beliefs, but thumbing down the whole comment section even if everything said make sense?That is so desparate of you man!
25. shuaibhere (Posts: 1983; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
He/she did it to you too...
very sad...u have said nothing against anyone still they attacked you...mindless trolls..
30. Aeires (unregistered)
Red thumbs = meaningless. The more childish people are in thumbing down literally every comment, pro or con, the more useless they are.
23. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
Of course Microsoft is going to bash Android, they are the competitors, that's how business rolls. They don't all have cute little friendships!
27. shuaibhere (Posts: 1983; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
What about giving some valid points????
32. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
This is a pretty valid point, I don't think many people understand how competition works.
28. jroc74 (Posts: 5961; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
If Android is a mess.....million upon millions of ppl must like messy phones, OS's, UI's.
29. Aeires (unregistered)
51. grapeseed87 (Posts: 123; Member since: 13 Mar 2013)
Unfortunately yes and its not because of the mess, its because carriers load it on mass produces cheap hardware since its a FREE OS and send it out to all to inflate the ecosystem.
31. Aeires (unregistered)
Only desperate companies constantly bring up the competition to try and cover their own deficiencies. You don't see BMW comparing their cars to other auto manufacturers. They know they make a great product and let it speak for itself. MS needs a fat dose of that.
35. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Microsoft needs to focus on their Surface phone instead of bashing Android!
Microsoft is just wasting their time! :(
36. Deniro (Posts: 2; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
I think this if funny doesn't Microsoft gets a percentage for every android sold....so without android where would Microsoft be...their OS is horrible
40. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Without Android, where would Microsoft be? At the top, same place they are now...
48. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
PC market, probably still one of the biggest technology markets, the office software market, the software market as a whole. Sorry if you don't know anything outside of phone technology.
37. snowgator (Posts: 3547; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
I am fine with people slamming MS over petty comments, but as a rule if the author is going to use a comment or a set of comments- such as the entire last paragraph does here, I would rather have the entire comment in it's entire context. I respect Micheal, but the last paragraph really just fires up fandom. Yes, the link is there, but so few actually go to the sites and get the whole story.
It also buries the lead. The whole idea of a Surface Phone has been a ton of people's reason to state MS had all these plans to undermine Nokia and such. The comment from MS pretty much kills that notion. It is the right decision: Nokia and HTC are much better equipped to get WP to the masses.
38. snowgator (Posts: 3547; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Oh, and I did go to the links and I did watch the video....
Oh yeah, he bashed Android. Hard.
41. keerthi777 (Posts: 4; Member since: 16 Apr 2013)
Steve jobs interview for cnbc watch here bc.vc/CP9q6K
42. lyndon420 (Posts: 3655; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
The last 2 sentences hit the mark perfectly.
45. TheBitterTruth (unregistered)
It seems interesting that Myerson directly mentioned Nokia and HTC, but left out Samsung
46. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3684; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
With 1.5 million new Android activations every day, there were probably more Android activations in the last two weeks than WP8 phones in existence. Microsoft only wishes that they had a "mess" like Google has.
50. grapeseed87 (Posts: 123; Member since: 13 Mar 2013)
Whoever would WANT a 'mess' on their hands? Doesnt make any sense. And again just because an OS is massively activated doesnt make it any better. Just means it was cheap enough to put on any hardware and be mass produced.
53. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3684; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
I was being sarcastic. I don't truly believe Google has a "mess" on their hands. They have the most popular mobile OS in the world. That's the "mess" Microsoft wishes they had. And you're absolutely right, popularity doesn't equal better. However, in this case, I believe the fact that Android is better is what made it as popular as it is.
55. grapeseed87 (Posts: 123; Member since: 13 Mar 2013)
:) I like this thread. So lets have it, what makes Android better? The only primary reason I see is the ability to load Free 3rd party apps and customization. Plus perhaps Google social network connection including Gmail. Besides that?
Android Malware attacks rose 167% since last year. Tremendous fragmentation issue. No standard OS core other than the one provided by Google so basically any Manufacturer can load it with bloatware. iOS and WinPho at least have connected PC OSs environment. I dont see that with Android. In my opinion innovation will cease by next year and 2 years after that it will be where Apple is heading now with their iPhone. At least the one definite credible thing about Android is you can get everything you have in the Apple environment but for super cheap. :) Just my opinion. I would love to hear yours really.
56. bayusuputra (Posts: 961; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
As a previous android user (well, still use it now) and now I'm using the 8X, I have to say that although WP8 is a great, fluid OS, it is still lagging behind android in terms of functionality.
Yes, there is the so called "fragmentation", where devices are not updated timely (or at all) to the newer OS. But is that Google's fault? or just OEM's move to push the sales of their newer devices? And what about WP7 versions? Do they get bumped up to WP8? And I heard about the current WP8 devices will not be updated to the newer WP version (which may or may not be true).
But as for android, they are still lagging behind (pun intended) compared to WP8. Yes, 4.1 and above almost eliminates that (and sometimes iOS/WP8 still lags, too). But what about 4.0 and earlier. And that Play Store is somewhat "messy" as not all apps are compatible for your device. Security? well, unless you don't have any idea what you are doing, then security will not be an issue. I have yet to see malware in my secondary android phone.
And the great thing about android is the availability of system wide file access. iOS: forget it. WP: it is there, but limited. You can't even access the "Other" storage. Mine is bloated to about 3.4GB now and it is wasting my precious memory space! Nothing to do about it!
So, I guess there is no better OS, just a better OS FOR YOURSELF.
52. snowgator (Posts: 3547; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
I am not disagreeing, g2a5b0e (interesting screen name, by the way, What does it mean?), but MS is a stupidly patient company. They, behind Nokia's lead, have seen steady growth for their OS. HTC's 8X sold better then expected, and Nokia's work and great support for their WP devices is truly paying off.
Android has nothing to fear, but I see a good future and steady growth for WP. Which is why it seems a little silly for the nastiness of the comments. Criticize your competition, sure. Talk up your product, of course. But be professional and at least a little amusing with it.
54. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3684; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
I've never had anyone ask about my screen name before. I feel flattered. However, I think you may be disappointed as it's not particularly excitiing. My name is Gabriel, shortened to Gabe. My favorite number is 25, but I love 3 digit numbers. I combined those two things into 250 because I suppose it best captures the spirit of both. Originally, I started using gabe250 as my screen name on most things, but I found it was taken some of the time. So, I spliced the 250 into my name, which made it more unique. I've been using it on pretty much everything for at least 10 years. Thanks for asking.
47. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
The point I see Android is, it is getting better and more stable. Since 4.0 version Android is doing great. Now Microsoft should focus on fixing Windows 8 and keep improving Windows Phone 8. If they decided to ditched Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 updates in favor of Windows 9, count me out. I've been leaning towards Linux more and more these few years even being a Windows fan. Now I'm at a point where Linux is doing Good, not great but good. So Microsoft better take things seriously and stop being a Metro Fanatics.
49. grapeseed87 (Posts: 123; Member since: 13 Mar 2013)
The article itself seems like a 'troll post' since the author calls MSFT "silly". Since when has it become "silly" to point out if another OS is indeed a mess with the skin and navigation of a feature phone and severe fragmentation issues. One doesnt have to be a market leader to criticise another OS for what it really is. Just because an OS is the most popular doesnt make it the best one >.< *le sigh*.