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Microsoft cuts the price of Surface Pro by $100

0. phoneArena 04 Aug 2013, 16:23 posted on

Microsoft’s Intel i5 powered, Windows 8 Pro packing tablet, the Surface Pro is now on sale at the...

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posted on 04 Aug 2013, 16:35 2

1. karim77 (Posts: 67; Member since: 10 Dec 2012)


Well,Microsoft you didn't have to show your guts off at the begining by putting your tablets at ridiculously high prices, now you are just humiliating yourself by reducing them

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 16:44 4

3. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)


Well the thing is that Google is in a unique position. It's business model relies almost entirely on internet advertising revenue. While it's been working out very well for them because they can offer great incentives like free services and not charging OEMs for Android etc. having all your sourced revenue from one thing is very unstable and dangerous.

Microsoft is an older company so it's business model is traditional in that sense that they create a software product and sell it. They're making a transition that is currently underway to compete, but they can't just subsidize the cost of any hardware they release because advertising revenue isn't their main source of income like it is for Google.

I don't think it was them trying to price things like Apple. Their business model literally cannot allow razor thin margins, especially when they put a lot of money in R&D for a radically different design.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 16:57 3

7. juandante (Posts: 392; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)


And that's why we don't need Microsoft on the market anymore... We don't want closed software, and expensive hardware anymore, as you said we are no more in 1999.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 16:59 5

9. iguano (Posts: 101; Member since: 10 May 2012)


lol dude... you don't work right?

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 17:07

10. juandante (Posts: 392; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)


why do you say this ? you are OK to buy a 1000$+ ...... tablet ?

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 17:15 6

12. iguano (Posts: 101; Member since: 10 May 2012)


lol dude, I know you love your tablet for play but do you know that Microsoft are still the #1 in any work environment?

you are paying 800$ or 900$ (not 1000$ like the article said) for a full loaded pc with a nice touchscreen in a super portable size, maybe its not for you, but I think its a very attractive price, if you prefer you can buy a MacBook air for 1000$ without the touch screen, but its your choice...

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 17:34 1

15. juandante (Posts: 392; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)


Microsoft is #1 but not for long. Every schools I where in now use Open Source Linux distributions, and editing software...

And I'm shocked to see you saying that people should still use Microsoft because you think they are #1.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 17:48 5

22. iguano (Posts: 101; Member since: 10 May 2012)


I don't know if for too long, i'm informatics engineer, and its look like neither google, or apple neither open source Linux will remove Microsoft from office environments...

tools like sql, office, outlook even lync are so important that I don't see any of those products in danger soon, neither windows...

btw 64gb ipad cost 700$, with 100$ more you have a intel i5 4gb of ram in a tablet format... don't look bad for me.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 18:27

23. Shatter (Posts: 2031; Member since: 29 May 2013)


For $1000 I can get a low end sager laptop that stomps all over this tablet.

http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=category_browse&selected_cat=3

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 18:35 1

25. papss (unregistered)


Sager? Way to reach...lol

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 17:18 1

13. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)


And just let Google take over everything? Yeah, ok.

Google has impressed me more than Microsoft has lately, but you want them out of the market? Are you crazy?

We need a new Microsoft, restructured to do well in the future. Ballmer is taking steps to do that, and we'll see if it pays off.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 17:38

18. juandante (Posts: 392; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)


You don't know nothing because there is a lot of other OS on the market, when Microsoft will be over well another OS will just take it's place.

It is non sense to say that if microsoft goes Google will take every thing and you know it; since microsoft is like 1% of world mobile OS share so they can go with their politics, no one can even see it.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 18:31

24. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)


You think some small start-up can match up against Android? Microsoft already has a small but strong footing established and that's why they aren't out yet even though they have such a small marketshare. Google, Apple and etc. could crush anything before it could even start gaining momentum.

The only way is if that small startup had some strong backing from big investors and veterans from other companies, which, if happens, would involve a lot of those "dark-handed business politics" that you seem to be demonizing Microsoft for. Sneaky and dirty play is the only way an unknown OS could start booming out of nowhere. I'm sorry, but the one who doesn't know anything is you...

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 19:26

28. juandante (Posts: 392; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)


Again non sense you are saying. If the market goes 100% not only this is just plainly impossible because Google don't have the same poop politics as Microsoft just to gain all market share (ie: Windows for desktop), but any OS can take a good percentage on Google because indeed of what I just said, but also Google is not a "must have" OS. They don't sell for the moment their own hardware (I include Motorola because those are not at all aggressive) Samsung who sells the majority of Android phones can just start to make their own OS like before or use an other one if they find that Google is not competitive and don't complete their needs, as well as Sony, Nokia, HTC, Intel, etc... And in consequence if Samsung does this Google will be in danger. Remember that customers need to compare before they buy. If there is only one OS lot of chance that it will not sell well, if iOS goes down at 5% and Google 95%, people will stop buying like today. But not with the 1% of Microsoft. There is absolutely no need for Microsoft to be on the market, and I'm not even saying that additionally they are useless, even they really are.

You think like Microsoft where a company must have money and pay to push absolutely every manufacturer to use their OS (again the example of WP with Nokia, bringing Nokia down). Google is NOT like that, even that Android is free. Your startup story is a joke and now it's the manufacturers who choose witch OS they use not like before when Microsoft was paying them or giving them illegally advantages. If Jolla for example is indeed good Samsung or anyone can give it a chance, no need for your sneaky and dirty play you talk about. Now everybody can have a chance to compete when Microsoft will be finally 0% over.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 19:53 1

31. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)


The way you put Google on a pedestal is just shameful, blindly giving them the benefit of the doubt. You think Google is some sort of angel because they give Android for free to OEMs. Their business model allows them to give it away.

Whatever its pointless. I can see that no matter what I say you won't see both sides of the coin. If Google gets put into a pressured position you're going to see what I mean... well, if they do.

Just because Google happened to be able to give OSes and services for free they're all of a sudden a more moral and forgiving company? That's just your wallet speaking. Then when Microsoft finds a new way to generate cash flow for more flexibility everyone will cry foul or call them a Google copycat. You're just anti-Microsoft just because.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 20:02

32. juandante (Posts: 392; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)


I'm happy to see finally that you accept the real reality.

When a company is doing non sense and contradictory bad things for 20 years, it's normal that every (intelligent, thus) one wants to throw them out of the boat later.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 20:08

33. juandante (Posts: 392; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)


And why are you so pro-Microsoft ?

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 20:42

36. iguano (Posts: 101; Member since: 10 May 2012)


dude... android have been in the top of the electronic world for the last 2 years.... Microsoft have been in the top of the electronic world at least for 20 years.... you cant be in top forever... let the time tell how long can android be in that position....

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 21:07

38. -box- (Posts: 3878; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Android isn't really free. Sure it can be installed on many devices without charge, but if an OEM puts it on, they have to pay about $25 in royalties and licensing fees (hence the development of a true free OS described in an article last week).

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 16:58 3

8. iguano (Posts: 101; Member since: 10 May 2012)


so by your logic reducing the prices are "humiliating"....

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 16:39 3

2. _Bone_ (Posts: 2140; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


No, still no buy.

Would consider getting it around $499. But then comes then next iPad and Nexus 10.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 16:47 4

4. Martin_Cooper (Posts: 635; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)


You do realise that 499$ are high end iOS and android tablets. Surface pro is not your typical tablet but a full fledged pc inside of a tablet that runs any program your pc or laptop has and its running an i5 cpu. Surface pro will never be in the same price range as ipads. Thats where surface RT comes. You can find win8 tablets for ipad prices but they run atom cpu's that cant squize much juice to play a good pc game or programs like photoshop properly.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 16:52 3

5. _Bone_ (Posts: 2140; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Yeah I realize all that. But when your iOS/Android screen is vastly superior, your battery life laughs all over the Surface Pro, when all your connectivity, browsing, info and content access is so much faster on the simplified OSs, then the Windows X86 program compatibility isn't that much of an edge. Not an edge at all actually in the tablet format, you'll be better off getting a laptop for work. As for a Windows TABLET, it's competition is still the iPad and Nexus 10 of the actual year, and you can check the sales how many agree with me, about 95%.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 17:45 4

21. Martin_Cooper (Posts: 635; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)


Surface pro is there to eliminate laptops and ultra books that business people and office people use. Tablets like iOS and android are used for browsing and gaming mostly, and emaling etc. You can't do any serious work on them. When I say serious I mean run specific programs that business and office people use. Surface pro can run any full windows program that companies use right now on pc's and laptops. Like I said, surface pro ISNT competing with android or iOS, surface RT(windows RT) is the one that will be competing with android and iOS. You are comparing apples with oranges. Yeah surface pro doesn't have great bettery,. But with new haswell intel cpu's that will be fixed too. Its the first version of a new tablet. Wait a year or two and it will be just great to have and no need for a laptop or ultrabook. Plus it supports wacom pen that can be useful for graphic designers and not only.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 20:14

34. RomeoJDR (Posts: 242; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)


The Surface is competing with laptops and iOS/Android tablets. Microsoft's goal is to have an operating system allowing you to have one device that can be used equally well for the powerful task performance programs of PCs as well as the entertainment and less performance intensive apps of tablets offering the most convenient and portable package. The problem is that the Surface falls short on performance of equally priced ultrabooks and is still a ways off from the thin and lightweight form factor with a days worth of battery life offered by other tablets. Your right this is Microsoft first attempt and they did put together a good, but overpriced package offering too little when directly compared to the competition by either people who need to run PC software, or those wanting the easiest travel companion for entertainment. I'm rooting for an all in one device to come out with fewer tradeoffs and hoping your right and Haswell will help make it become a reality.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 16:55 4

6. papss (unregistered)


I'm not sure what you are smoking but this PC destroys the iPad and nexus 10 if you want to compare them

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 17:09

11. sipha (Posts: 325; Member since: 12 May 2012)


Destroys them in what?? Benchmarks, right?? What bone is saying is that in real life functionality the surface pro can not justify charging double the price of its competitors... The two tablets are as fast in use, better screen & have essentially all needed software..

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 17:23 3

14. iguano (Posts: 101; Member since: 10 May 2012)


destroy them in everything!!!! you have all the software that pc windows have!!! I mean full office!!! full adobe photo editing suit!, full corel drawing suit, full 3d studio, full audio editing software! full support for any hardware add on in the market, are you comparing this with the regular tablets? are you crazy?

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 17:37 2

17. _Bone_ (Posts: 2140; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


All pointless for a 10" tablet, ur far better off doing all that on a properly built 15" laptop with larger battery and usable keyboard, not to mention the atrocious free space that can barely handle the Adobe SW suite and a few other programs.

Would YOU buy a $800 Surface Pro with barely any free space in x86 terms?

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 17:43 3

19. iguano (Posts: 101; Member since: 10 May 2012)


obviously sometimes you need those tools on the go, that's why the ultrabooks are so famous

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 17:44 3

20. iguano (Posts: 101; Member since: 10 May 2012)


btw 64gb ipad cost 700$

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 21:11

40. -box- (Posts: 3878; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Even more for it to be cellular-capable, whereas any USB-equipped Windows device can use any USB modem. Granted, a hotspot from a smartphone or MiFi would serve the same purpose but requires separate charging and connection.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 18:40 2

26. papss (unregistered)


That's exactly what I'm saying.. As a professional I can't get near the needs I have that I get with the pro.. Its not a tablet and shouldn't be compared to one. I have an iPad 4 and a pro and the iPad is for home, my pro is for grownups not Childs play.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 19:48

29. RomeoJDR (Posts: 242; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)


I agree iPad and Android tablets are the perfect entertainment companion for anyone, while serving as productivity tools for email, calender... etc. They also have decent apps for editing of photos, video, audio, at the fraction of the price of their PC counterpart software that offer more features than will ever be used by the non-professional majority out there. The tablets are small, lightweight with power that last all day. For the niche market requiring the power of Sandy Bridge to run professional software, I really can't see the benefit of the Surface over a more powerful Ultra book with greater storage, longer battery and a cheaper price tag when you'll have to lug around a power adapter for the Surface when on the go, the weight is about the same and you'll need to bring along the keyboard to do more than "child's play." Tablets and PC tablets are in 2 different leagues, but tablets have earned a place as convenient entertainment and productivity travel companions, whereas the Surface still falls too closely in with the ultra book category in convenience and is trumped by offering less performance for the cost. This may well change when Haswell tablets start rolling out, but for now there are better options in a slightly different but no less convenient form factor.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 19:48

30. RomeoJDR (Posts: 242; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)


I agree iPad and Android tablets are the perfect entertainment companion for anyone, while serving as productivity tools for email, calender... etc. They also have decent apps for editing of photos, video, audio, at the fraction of the price of their PC counterpart software that offer more features than will ever be used by the non-professional majority out there. The tablets are small, lightweight with power that last all day. For the niche market requiring the power of Sandy Bridge to run professional software, I really can't see the benefit of the Surface over a more powerful Ultra book with greater storage, longer battery and a cheaper price tag when you'll have to lug around a power adapter for the Surface when on the go, the weight is about the same and you'll need to bring along the keyboard to do more than "child's play." Tablets and PC tablets are in 2 different leagues, but tablets have earned a place as convenient entertainment and productivity travel companions, whereas the Surface still falls too closely in with the ultra book category in convenience and is trumped by offering less performance for the cost. This may well change when Haswell tablets start rolling out, but for now there are better options in a slightly different but no less convenient form factor.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 20:45

37. iguano (Posts: 101; Member since: 10 May 2012)


dude ipad 4 64gb cost 700$... the surface i5, 4gb ram with 64gb, cost 800$ I understand all that you said but believe me... its better choice the surface (I have an ipad3, I don't have the surface because in my country don't sell them)

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 17:36 1

16. RomeoJDR (Posts: 242; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)


Too little too late. With Haswell tablets about to hit the market sporting full PC performance with Android/iOS like battery conservation, who in their right mind will pay what still amounts to a premium for a last generation power hungry processor?

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 18:48 3

27. deathgod (Posts: 122; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)


Price still to high. If you're considering buying this for the purpose of doing 'real' work with the legacy apps, then you'll have to get the touch or type keyboard (or a bluetooth keyboard), essentially making the lowest starting price $900 if you get those.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 21:11

39. joey_sfb (Posts: 3228; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


MS should have listen to their OEM. They know the fast changing retail market better than MS.

At home I use Android, at Office I use MS. My company pay for all the expensive license. Suit me fine.

posted on 04 Aug 2013, 20:28

35. gazmatic (Posts: 628; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


all MS has to do is delviver a sony vaio pro 13 with wacom digitizer at $800

that is perfect

posted on 05 Aug 2013, 09:24

41. skymitch89 (Posts: 1118; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)


Microsoft needs to cut more than just $100 off the price. I think that the price is the big turnoff for people wanting to buy a new Win8 tablet. Why buy a tablet for $900 that only has 4GB RAM, a 10.6in 1080p display, a 3rd gen i5, and only 64 or 128GB storage when someone can get a 15.6in laptop with 1080p and comes with 6-8GB RAM a 3rd gen i7 or 4th gen i5/i7, and upwards of 1TB storage for $600-700.

posted on 05 Aug 2013, 11:02

42. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1145; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


folks the main problem with Windows 8 or the new windows 8.1 Tablets is that these programs are a PC/Tablet hybrid programs. Many smartphone and tablets test reviews point out that to run the Windows 8 or new 8.1 OS properly you need intel I5 or i7 CPU's or AMD CPU equivalents. and some of these CPU's and their chipsets are not cheap so good windows 8 tablets selling below 400 dollars may be hard to find. lets hope they can get cheaper.

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