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Microsoft adds Google to law suit against Motorola in Germany

0. phoneArena 13 Oct 2012, 23:05 posted on

On Friday, Microsoft said that it would be adding Google as a defendant in a current patent infringement case it filed against Motorola; Microsoft says that it is adding Motorola's parent company because the suit revolves around data that Motorola says has to do with Google...

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posted on 13 Oct 2012, 23:20 2

1. Ravail (Posts: 181; Member since: 14 Oct 2011)


Can't say Microsoft did a bright move by adding Google's name to the lawsuit, but since they own MM, their in it by default. lol

posted on 13 Oct 2012, 23:33 1

2. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5529; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


It is more a matter of having Google become subject to decisions made by the court. MM stated that materials demanded by MS are in possession of Google, and not MM. The only way MS can compel Google to produce the demanded materials is to add Google to the lawsuit. If Google is successful at avoiding being added to the lawsuit, then MS is basically SOL on getting access to the materials it wants.

posted on 13 Oct 2012, 23:36 12

3. ilia1986 (unregistered)


It's all because of Apple! Had they not started suing everyone in the world - Microsoft wouldn't have dared to sue Motorola and Google.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 00:04 5

6. darkkjedii (Posts: 10102; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Dude u r soooo wrong on that one. Google infringed on some Microsoft patents, and have been paying Microsoft a licensing fee since 08'. This article isn't even about apple so stop hating ex apple user

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 00:32 10

11. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1190; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Could you shed some light on that claim. The earliest I found of google & microsoft in a patent dispute was from 2010, which was actually micorosft going after android oems. Not saying you're wrong, but I just spent an hour & came up with nothing.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 01:05 2

12. nyuvo (Posts: 72; Member since: 10 May 2012)


Reference your arguments points or it may as well be a false statement

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 01:35 3

15. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5529; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


+ 3 on what patent of MS is Google infringing? I didn't down-vote you, but I am interested to know which MS patent Google is infringing, much less paying MS a royalty on.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 11:56

34. networkdood (Posts: 6247; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


awesome job posting non-truths, dakkjedi. You are a true follower of Taco and G-KING

posted on 13 Oct 2012, 23:46 10

4. SvbZero (Posts: 27; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)


Instead of pulling an Apple.. maybe MicroTrash should start using its resources to learn how to make their own damn phones!

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 00:02 4

5. Izzy_V (Posts: 216; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Agreed. Guess they got butthurt over going down to #3.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 01:39 1

16. haseebzahid (Posts: 1801; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


for u especially what ever MS made till today was their own not a copy not a trend but their own stuff android is a trend copy apple is idea theif tell one thing about MS or its produts that is a copy or they made it based on what is the trend of market

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 15:16 1

41. android4president (Posts: 5; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)


Dude for real, I don't understand half of what's in your comment? And saying that Android copied "Apple" makes me think you're stupid... Are you?

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 00:07 2

7. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


"The Mountain View based tech titan says that it will "vigorously defend against any amended complaint Microsoft files."

swag.....lol

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 00:10 7

8. TheDarkKnight (banned) (Posts: 88; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)


Stop behaving like apple!

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 01:41 1

17. haseebzahid (Posts: 1801; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


apple fights over the shapes and copies of iphones MS fights for their stuff being used for free by other companies their is a huge difference

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 09:08 1

24. MartyK (Posts: 688; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


The Xbox 360 & 720 violates four Motorola patents.

Sound like Sony PS3 is going to overtake MS gaming system :)

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 09:24

26. Zero0 (Posts: 570; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Precisely.

It takes more than a genius to come up with the not-at-all-obvious concept of "combining data sets." Google should have thought to check the patent records before doing something so inherently innovative. They deserve more than just a heavy fine.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 00:17 5

9. shuaibhere (Posts: 1297; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Evil empire of 90' s....showing its original face.....

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 00:18 10

10. Savage (unregistered)


Why is every company intent on suing the only company which is actually progressing in terms of technology?
Patents have only one use- stop development and make money.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 01:15 1

14. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 618; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


Reason is the newer upstart is like a tidal wave of youth and ingenuity that just keeps making things better and aren't stick in the muds. Innovation isn't supposed to be stifled, just look at Apple these guys don't like to lease anything for fear of someone else making their tech better and much more efficient than they do. Cowards. MS just wants to take money because their platform is in the dumps because they decided to release oh so many years ago some half baked OS for mobile phones which could barely do a damn thing but let you use the phone, everything else was horribly gimped(windows Mobile, I'm talking 7 years ago). Data overlay on a map, Ms doesn't even have mapping solutions, this should be looked at as patent trolling, as MS doesn't even use this tech.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 12:30 1

35. So-Sayz-Eye (Posts: 29; Member since: 08 Nov 2011)


MS Street and Trips.

MS had it with one of my first laptops, you needed a gps receiver, but point being microsft had mapping programs in past you had to pay for. I will say that thanks to google, mapquest and others, free online maps became the norm, but fact remains to answer your questions, they did and do have mapping solutions.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 01:06 1

13. krimHD (Posts: 106; Member since: 23 May 2012)


Apple is surely teaching people all this crap.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 03:39 1

18. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


This info coming to light is strange.

I asked this the other day....Why would HTC, Samsung and others pay MS for Google Maps infringing on patents...when thats a Google product? I dont think any manufacture altered Google Maps.....so this shoulda been directed at Google from day one.

What am I missing?

I also said this....its about time what MS has been getting money for has come to light. I have wondered about this for months.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 03:44 1

19. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5529; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


HTC and Sammy are the ones who are actually selling phones with the infringing functionality. Same logic applies to Apple v. Samsung.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 10:00

28. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I have been racking my brain thinking of a reply....lol. help me out....

That explains why in Apple vs Samsung...some stock Android icons were included and they went after the G Nex? If so that make it more clearer to me. Part of whats causing me confusion....is Oracle didnt go after the OEMs, they went straight for Google.

So....should Oracle have gone after HTC, Samsung, etc? I didnt go back and look at the all past lawsuits......its too many to keep track of. One suit I remember is Paul Allen mentioning Apple, Google and others in a lawsuit for their OS's. I dont think its directed at any phone or PC manufactures.

Something else came to mind thinking of this reply....wonder if Apple knew about this and thats part of the reason for dumping Google Maps. Apple probably already have a licensing deal in place with MS....lol. Which would be wild...

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 12:35

37. So-Sayz-Eye (Posts: 29; Member since: 08 Nov 2011)


My guess is that since google operates in the realm of an open platform, with no actual license fees being paid, that any infringment most falls on the manufacturer, as once they edit the operating system in any way it becomes theirs. That woud be my guess.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 07:12 1

21. rusticguy (Posts: 2818; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


In Samsung Vs Apple case in US court, Court had wanted explicit details of all licensing/cross licensing deals between samsung and M$ to be placed on table and both M$ and IBM were running to court desperately trying to stop that. This whole patent office is a SCAM. American patent system has become a joke where guess if M$ or Apple files a patent for how to walk to loo they wil be grabnted one. Ridiculous. They gransted Patent/Trademark for "BASMATI" to some company and i am sure these intelligent lot knew basmati is a rice originationg from Indian Subcontinent. They had to annul when ther was a huge protest.

PATENT system is for corporations to RIP Off a customer and avoid entry of new business into market.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 07:54

22. shuaibhere (Posts: 1297; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


BASMATI.....my favourite!!!!!!!

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 09:04

23. rusticguy (Posts: 2818; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Yes American patent office wanted to kill that by favouring Texas based US company Rice-Tec with the favor so that they can mint money by stealing what has been famous for decades. No one can say USPTO is manned by so illiterate staff that they don't know what basmati is all about. It just shows the evil and corrupt intent ... "I will rob you but if you try even to think of doing it you will be chased to every cornmer of world. That's what both M$ and Apple are doing" sadly ... Ideally all applications for patents should be open for challenge before patent is awarded.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 11:19

32. shuaibhere (Posts: 1297; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Where are you from?????
US or india??

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 12:40

38. So-Sayz-Eye (Posts: 29; Member since: 08 Nov 2011)


I am not a fan of USPTO altough Iunderstand the need for patents an overhaul will never happen, neither will stricter guidelines for what can and should be patented. The USPTO know that if any of the above 2 thingd happen, they would have to invalidate way to many patents, which would lead to court cases trying to over turn lost patent cases, which then would lead to an even bigger headache. The USPTO has gotten to big to fail and is failing at being big. Its a cycle that wont end anytime soon, no matter how much we all might want it too.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 09:26

27. Zero0 (Posts: 570; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Microsoft is probably afraid that, if they drag Google into the ring, Google is going to beat them on search patents or something.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 05:48 1

20. w595vsgamit (Posts: 8; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)


bad for customers! everyone targeting android

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 09:09

25. MartyK (Posts: 688; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


The Xbox 360 and Xbox 720 should be ban from entering the US market.

Once this ban take place this will give Sony PS3 enough time to over come MS gaming system.

I think Microsoft is trying to force Google to remove this ban...hahaha.

http://techland.time.com/2012/05/23/xbox-360-should-be-banned-from-u-s-over-patents-judge-says/

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 11:05 1

31. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Stupid fanboy remark!

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 11:48

33. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Why does the PS3 need to overcome the 360? I have both and they both serve a purpose. The hardest thing for me is making sure I dont get the same game for both systems.

I wanted to get Madden 13 and 2K13 for the 360, but folks at work game on the PS3, so PS3 it was. The PS3 does have the edge as a multi media system to me. Blu Ray, free online for all, and I had issues logging into Vudu on my 360. I had to do it on my PS3 since the 360 wont let you login using your Walmart account for Vudu.

And I plan on getting a Wii U. lol. We can hate and fight about Android and iOS, the iPhone all day....but for game consoles....I welcome all. And would get all if I could. There are exclusives for each system that makes them all a good buy.

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 10:17

29. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


Apple+Microsoft=pure evil

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 11:04

30. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Why Germany and no other place?

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 12:30

36. shuaibhere (Posts: 1297; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Google will really welcome this.....
Google is well known for supporting oems than any others......
So google will look this as a act to let oems free.....

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 13:45

39. gallitoking (Posts: 4680; Member since: 17 May 2011)


this will show the true side of Google.. MS has always been this way so dont know why the hating on MS...

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 15:14

40. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7328; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Oh hey you're back. How was your vacation?

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 17:23

42. gallitoking (Posts: 4680; Member since: 17 May 2011)


what vacation?.. too dumb to even tell the difference.. is cool..

posted on 14 Oct 2012, 21:06 1

43. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


True side?

They will either fight if they think they can...or they will pay a license fee. You think the Samsung vs Apple case showed Samsung's true side? They thought they would win if given a chance to defend themselves. Like anyone would if they thought they had a case.

The Apple vs Samsung case did show Apple's true side.....but most of us already knew Apple's true side before the case... :)

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