Microsoft adds Google to law suit against Motorola in Germany

2. Droid_X_Doug posted on 13 Oct 2012, 23:33 1 0

It is more a matter of having Google become subject to decisions made by the court. MM stated that materials demanded by MS are in possession of Google, and not MM. The only way MS can compel Google to produce the demanded materials is to add Google to the lawsuit. If Google is successful at avoiding being added to the lawsuit, then MS is basically SOL on getting access to the materials it wants.

6. darkkjedii posted on 14 Oct 2012, 00:04 5 17

Dude u r soooo wrong on that one. Google infringed on some Microsoft patents, and have been paying Microsoft a licensing fee since 08'. This article isn't even about apple so stop hating ex apple user

11. VZWuser76 posted on 14 Oct 2012, 00:32 10 0

Could you shed some light on that claim. The earliest I found of google & microsoft in a patent dispute was from 2010, which was actually micorosft going after android oems. Not saying you're wrong, but I just spent an hour & came up with nothing.

12. nyuvo posted on 14 Oct 2012, 01:05 2 0

Reference your arguments points or it may as well be a false statement

15. Droid_X_Doug posted on 14 Oct 2012, 01:35 3 0

+ 3 on what patent of MS is Google infringing? I didn't down-vote you, but I am interested to know which MS patent Google is infringing, much less paying MS a royalty on.

34. networkdood posted on 14 Oct 2012, 11:56 0 0

awesome job posting non-truths, dakkjedi. You are a true follower of Taco and G-KING

5. Izzy_V posted on 14 Oct 2012, 00:02 4 0

Agreed. Guess they got butthurt over going down to #3.

16. haseebzahid posted on 14 Oct 2012, 01:39 1 6

for u especially what ever MS made till today was their own not a copy not a trend but their own stuff android is a trend copy apple is idea theif tell one thing about MS or its produts that is a copy or they made it based on what is the trend of market

41. android4president posted on 14 Oct 2012, 15:16 1 0

Dude for real, I don't understand half of what's in your comment? And saying that Android copied "Apple" makes me think you're stupid... Are you?

17. haseebzahid posted on 14 Oct 2012, 01:41 1 7

apple fights over the shapes and copies of iphones MS fights for their stuff being used for free by other companies their is a huge difference

24. MartyK posted on 14 Oct 2012, 09:08 1 0

The Xbox 360 & 720 violates four Motorola patents.

Sound like Sony PS3 is going to overtake MS gaming system :)

26. Zero0 posted on 14 Oct 2012, 09:24 0 0

Precisely.

It takes more than a genius to come up with the not-at-all-obvious concept of "combining data sets." Google should have thought to check the patent records before doing something so inherently innovative. They deserve more than just a heavy fine.

14. MorePhonesThanNeeded posted on 14 Oct 2012, 01:15 1 0

Reason is the newer upstart is like a tidal wave of youth and ingenuity that just keeps making things better and aren't stick in the muds. Innovation isn't supposed to be stifled, just look at Apple these guys don't like to lease anything for fear of someone else making their tech better and much more efficient than they do. Cowards. MS just wants to take money because their platform is in the dumps because they decided to release oh so many years ago some half baked OS for mobile phones which could barely do a damn thing but let you use the phone, everything else was horribly gimped(windows Mobile, I'm talking 7 years ago). Data overlay on a map, Ms doesn't even have mapping solutions, this should be looked at as patent trolling, as MS doesn't even use this tech.

35. So-Sayz-Eye posted on 14 Oct 2012, 12:30 1 0

MS Street and Trips.

MS had it with one of my first laptops, you needed a gps receiver, but point being microsft had mapping programs in past you had to pay for. I will say that thanks to google, mapquest and others, free online maps became the norm, but fact remains to answer your questions, they did and do have mapping solutions.

19. Droid_X_Doug posted on 14 Oct 2012, 03:44 1 0

HTC and Sammy are the ones who are actually selling phones with the infringing functionality. Same logic applies to Apple v. Samsung.

28. jroc74 posted on 14 Oct 2012, 10:00 0 0

I have been racking my brain thinking of a reply....lol. help me out....

That explains why in Apple vs Samsung...some stock Android icons were included and they went after the G Nex? If so that make it more clearer to me. Part of whats causing me confusion....is Oracle didnt go after the OEMs, they went straight for Google.

So....should Oracle have gone after HTC, Samsung, etc? I didnt go back and look at the all past lawsuits......its too many to keep track of. One suit I remember is Paul Allen mentioning Apple, Google and others in a lawsuit for their OS's. I dont think its directed at any phone or PC manufactures.

Something else came to mind thinking of this reply....wonder if Apple knew about this and thats part of the reason for dumping Google Maps. Apple probably already have a licensing deal in place with MS....lol. Which would be wild...

37. So-Sayz-Eye posted on 14 Oct 2012, 12:35 0 0

My guess is that since google operates in the realm of an open platform, with no actual license fees being paid, that any infringment most falls on the manufacturer, as once they edit the operating system in any way it becomes theirs. That woud be my guess.

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21. rusticguy posted on 14 Oct 2012, 07:12 1 0

In Samsung Vs Apple case in US court, Court had wanted explicit details of all licensing/cross licensing deals between samsung and M$ to be placed on table and both M$ and IBM were running to court desperately trying to stop that. This whole patent office is a SCAM. American patent system has become a joke where guess if M$ or Apple files a patent for how to walk to loo they wil be grabnted one. Ridiculous. They gransted Patent/Trademark for "BASMATI" to some company and i am sure these intelligent lot knew basmati is a rice originationg from Indian Subcontinent. They had to annul when ther was a huge protest.

PATENT system is for corporations to RIP Off a customer and avoid entry of new business into market.

22. shuaibhere posted on 14 Oct 2012, 07:54 0 0

BASMATI.....my favourite!!!!!!!

23. rusticguy posted on 14 Oct 2012, 09:04 0 0

Yes American patent office wanted to kill that by favouring Texas based US company Rice-Tec with the favor so that they can mint money by stealing what has been famous for decades. No one can say USPTO is manned by so illiterate staff that they don't know what basmati is all about. It just shows the evil and corrupt intent ... "I will rob you but if you try even to think of doing it you will be chased to every cornmer of world. That's what both M$ and Apple are doing" sadly ... Ideally all applications for patents should be open for challenge before patent is awarded.

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32. shuaibhere posted on 14 Oct 2012, 11:19 0 0

Where are you from?????
US or india??

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38. So-Sayz-Eye posted on 14 Oct 2012, 12:40 0 0

I am not a fan of USPTO altough Iunderstand the need for patents an overhaul will never happen, neither will stricter guidelines for what can and should be patented. The USPTO know that if any of the above 2 thingd happen, they would have to invalidate way to many patents, which would lead to court cases trying to over turn lost patent cases, which then would lead to an even bigger headache. The USPTO has gotten to big to fail and is failing at being big. Its a cycle that wont end anytime soon, no matter how much we all might want it too.

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27. Zero0 posted on 14 Oct 2012, 09:26 0 0

Microsoft is probably afraid that, if they drag Google into the ring, Google is going to beat them on search patents or something.

31. lubba posted on 14 Oct 2012, 11:05 1 0

Stupid fanboy remark!

33. jroc74 posted on 14 Oct 2012, 11:48 0 0

Why does the PS3 need to overcome the 360? I have both and they both serve a purpose. The hardest thing for me is making sure I dont get the same game for both systems.

I wanted to get Madden 13 and 2K13 for the 360, but folks at work game on the PS3, so PS3 it was. The PS3 does have the edge as a multi media system to me. Blu Ray, free online for all, and I had issues logging into Vudu on my 360. I had to do it on my PS3 since the 360 wont let you login using your Walmart account for Vudu.

And I plan on getting a Wii U. lol. We can hate and fight about Android and iOS, the iPhone all day....but for game consoles....I welcome all. And would get all if I could. There are exclusives for each system that makes them all a good buy.

40. PapaSmurf posted on 14 Oct 2012, 15:14 0 0

Oh hey you're back. How was your vacation?

42. gallitoking posted on 14 Oct 2012, 17:23 0 0

what vacation?.. too dumb to even tell the difference.. is cool..

43. jroc74 posted on 14 Oct 2012, 21:06 1 0

True side?

They will either fight if they think they can...or they will pay a license fee. You think the Samsung vs Apple case showed Samsung's true side? They thought they would win if given a chance to defend themselves. Like anyone would if they thought they had a case.

The Apple vs Samsung case did show Apple's true side.....but most of us already knew Apple's true side before the case... :)