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Microsoft Surface and its impact on the tablet market

0. phoneArena 20 Jun 2012, 10:17 posted on

With the introduction of the iPad, Apple redefined what the words “tablet computer” mean. Before the iPad, they mostly meant a big, clunky laptop-like device with an unresponsive swivel-screen that could eventually take the form of about three or four iPads stacked on top of each other...

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posted on 20 Jun 2012, 10:31 5

1. Suts_97 (Posts: 124; Member since: 05 May 2012)

This is good..Let's see what they have for us in Windows Phone 8!

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 10:34 4

2. twens (Posts: 1018; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)

Now thats a lovely article. Am glad you explained how much effort microsoft has placed into this tablet. To me,for those who want to do more than just play with your gadgets this is the 1st real tablet.
I see IOS and android facing serious tablet market issues in the near future cos manufacturers will better their hardware and Microsoft who has already taken the lead in software will also advance and better it. The rest will play catch up and by then it will be too late to catch up with MS. Price is no issue here if you know what you want. In my country poeple buy ipads at very expensive laptop prices and they dont complain. Any smart and intelligent human who loves hardware and software will definately save towards this peace of beauty. For me am getting one and am selling my ipad 3 for this.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 10:37 2

3. Veigald (Posts: 290; Member since: 13 Jan 2012)

This is exactly what a lot of people have been waiting for, and absolutely the future of personal computing.

For consumers, they will have a productivity option to add to the leisure option of the iPad (and even less options on Android tablets), which makes one less device to need in the house. When it is sexy as well, then the iPad really seems like a lesser option.

For companies, Microsoft products simply integrate in a much more manageable fashion than other products, with less worries about learning curves and additional security risks. The whole Bring Your Own Device discussion would be simplified by Microsoft tablets running Windows OS and applications. Further, there would be less need for integration between a variety of devices, and if the end users are happy with this device, less fragmentation in the environments.

I think this is a potentially disruptive device, and believe this might be the type of device that could make the tablet market resemble the PC market in two or three years; MS with a massive share, Apple with a small share and "the others", e.g. Android tablets, barely noticeable. Good job, MS.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 10:39 4

4. mobilefuture (Posts: 220; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)

It looks like the slow demise of Android Tablets has started, but we can only be sure next week when rumored nexus tablets are announced...

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 11:04 3

6. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 259; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)

Slow demise? Android tablets almost catched iPad (52% vs 51%) in 2012, led by Kindle fire with 28%. Source: OPA.

Of course such data is hidden on most sites, negative propaganda for the various iPhonearenas.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 11:28 5

10. mobilefuture (Posts: 220; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)

just to make it clear im not an android hater but seeing as ifans are never gonna let go of iphones and ipads, ultimately microsoft will be eating away android tablets share in the markets. i mean you gotta admit, ifans will NEVER let go of the iphone...

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 11:45 1

15. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 259; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)

MS & Intel still need to show us a portable device with decent battery efficiency. All intel powered ultrabooks or laptops last the half vs. ARM based devices.

Windows 8 RT is no big deal, it's another closed ecosystem. x86 apps are not cross compatible and you will run only metro adapted apps bought from their market.

If an intel Windows 8 PRO (surface) would have more processing power and better efficiency, I would be impressed and probably would buy it. However, I don't think it will be the case.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 12:00 1

18. appleDOESNT.com (banned) (Posts: 456; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)

iAgree, taco will never not own a iDevice

iThough, like most not in the herd, relish in all state-of-the-art technologies from all companies... iAm not stuck with 4 products (2 useful and one just a bigger version of the other) with once a year incremental refreshes and am LOViN EVERY MiNUTE OF iT!

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 10:47 1

5. pongkie (Posts: 642; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)

i have this feeling that they didn't include the cellular data capability. That it only has Wifi.

a. they didn't mention it
b. no telecom company is talking on carrying it.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 11:06 2

7. u-suck-more (Posts: 529; Member since: 26 Aug 2011)

i'd really like to see it suceed

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 11:12

8. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

Great job ray! I thought this was a michael article when opening but ray hit it out of the ballpark. But I have skme griefs. If the pro is priced as a 900 dollar machine I don't know if people will pay that much. The major problem with tablets has been price. Look at how well the kindle fire is selling for example. Maybe the professional market but is that enough. If it is truly a full pc maybe it can compete in the pc market at that price. And for 600 alot of people will go for the cheaper apple/android option. Money is a big factor in all of this. Thats my 2cents anyway.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 11:21 10

9. remixfa (Posts: 14586; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

you know ray, ive been defending you against the "iphonearena" and huge bias posts for a while now. I gotta say, I'm quite disappointed in just how much you decided to slam android tablets and talk up the ipad with every other sentence. really dude? come on.

1) i use my android tablet quite heavily for school/business use. Can your ipad sync all your desktop documents with your phone and tablet automatically? Can you edit on one system and have it instantly show up on the other in real time? Can multiple users edit at the same time? can it blutooth files back n forth? for business, the ipad is a joke.

2) RT isnt going after android, its going after Apple. Android users are unlikely to switch to RT because its a downgrade in almost every respect. First time users that look at shiney things and care more about smooth scrolling than functionality are possible apple users.. which is where MS is aiming. Just like WP7 phones are not going after established android users, they are going after first time users that are likely to pick up an iphone... the same is with RT tablets. Who wants rows of small icons when you can have big colorful interactive blocks. So while its unlikely that it will tear users away from either android or iOS in large quantities, it has a much more possible detrimental effect on firstime OS buyers that might lean towards an ipad. MS's branding will strike a strong chord for users that dont have anything but a PC and just want it for media.

The lower-priced Windows RT version should also be doing well, though, as it will be packing more appeal than most of the competition, except for the iPad

because people are ready to pay when it's worth it, when a device is no longer just a piece of tech, but a piece of art as well.

It's unlikely that the Surface (ARM edition) will hit iPad sales too hard, because the iPad is the consumer tablet.

However, it wouldn't surprise us if Android tablet sales suffer significantly

it'll be hard for most users to continue siding with Android.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 12:55 2

21. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

Come on remixfa this was not an iphonearena post. Everything was backed up and he has solid points. The only thing i disagree about is price. The android tablets faults are all true but its getting better if ics which he said. You said that microsoft will canablize ipad sales. Does that make you a fandroid? No. So how does ray saying the opposite a iphonearena post? And the features you talked about most people don't care about. Especially the casual users. But microsoft is going for a full feldged pc experience similar to what android trys to do. Thats why the are competitors. Apple gives a atlernative to a pc which is why it isn't. Makes sense no? And also the features you talked about kinda go to show the pc approach by android in that it trys to do more then a tablet does. Even though icould does back everything else across devices but thats for any device on the ecosystem.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 14:58 1

26. remixfa (Posts: 14586; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

no. you missed the point Bio. rt is not going for a PC experience, its going for a "premium" visceral media and eye candy experience .. with a few extras. that's apples territory. look at their announcement .. it screams apple like in the choice of words and presentation.

Pro is going for a PC experience and those would go after android users more if it weren't for the gaping price disparity. myself included.

I copied some of the quotes that I was speaking of. they were pure extreme bias with no validity beyond personal preference which doesn't belong so deeply rooted in a supposed non biased article.

he's been pretty good lately about being fair. this however is not one of those times

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:48 2

29. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 1246; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)

WTF....you and I agree on something lol;). If you search my post I have been saying all that along Apple now has comp. Microsoft will rule business, and for those that want something that extends the desk top and easy to use no mods necessary to work smoothly....WP8 on the go! Android is a hackers nerd type OS. Those types of people will never abandon Android due to modding and the hackers attributes. Apple will be pushed back by WP8 with office and outlook express, and exchange server to rule business I think!

Singgly, and I have been saying this all along for sure...not to mention that I am running W8 desktop, and after playing with a few WP7 phones knew the game was about to change for Windows and MS!

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 18:30 3

30. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

I thought there announcement was going infomercial style. Not apple if you ask me. But the RT is not going for just eye candy. Its going after a pc like experience like android the pro is going for a dead on pc experience.
And those quotes there is nothing wrong with them. They are perfectly fair. Tablets has always been not such a great experience with android. Phones are another story completely but there tablet game needs help. The kindle fire is a good start since its cheap.
I do agree about the pricing dilemma my one grief.

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 09:50 3

32. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 1246; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)

Again you and I are close to thoughts here. Any on e thinking that these tablets won't appeal to iPeople are off key. For those people that are die hard Apple, and iProduct bound no...not in the beginning will they switch, but as the years move on MS will attract those people I believe as well.

Windows is the most unified OS platform in existence now. Desk top, business, tablet, phones all combined in a seamless easy to use software application finally. No apps or tweaks needed to make it work, and looks just as appealing as any other platform!

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 10:13

33. remixfa (Posts: 14586; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

me thinks that all the people that bought the transformer, Tab, xoom, and the other nice tablets would disagree with you.... which are the bulk of tablet sales. Were there some junk ones? of course.. but thats the + and - of open source. However, those comments were definitely NOT fair and unbiased.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 11:28

11. thunderising (Posts: 232; Member since: 25 Nov 2011)

Don't know why they made Win8 x86 tablet. Seems like they want it to go head on with Windows 8 RT, which itself is another baby platform.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 11:30 2

13. remixfa (Posts: 14586; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

because the tech is finally there to have full desktop in tablet form. I'd love full power in a mobile form like that, but I'm not paying that much for it.. lol

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 11:29 2

12. mobilefuture (Posts: 220; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)

does anybody know that if you write i and sheep together then phonearena warns you that you have offensive content in your post? seriously?

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 11:40 3

14. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)

I'll buy it anyway, even if its at Ultrabook price. I know what i'm getting. I know its full windows experience. So thats enough.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 11:52

16. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

MS took the humiliation of WP6 too seriously now they are GAME which is good

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 11:55 1

17. Rickmears23 (Posts: 1; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)

Lets see..Cheap windows laptop, $500 bucks, good android tablet, $400 bucks. Ill go that route vrs the $899 Microsoft surface.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 13:39

22. saiki4116 (Posts: 400; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)

That's what i am also thinking...even 1000$ ultrabook would be better buy in terms of performance and comfort.They were able to cram up the keyboard in such a thin cover,but it should rest on a flat surface to type comfortably.win 8 is designed from ground up for a touch,and i have used win8 rel preview on my laptop,it's not that touch and type friendly.But if they include a touchpad like that of a Mac(for charms and gestures..),then it would solve the problem.We have to wait for the device...pricing matters a lot,i may buy it if it is 900$,because i can get a much better ultrabook or transformerseque windows 8 devices.....

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 12:05

19. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 660; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)

i think this tablet will be competing with other windows 8 tablet manufacturers, since Android and iOS are mobile OS, unless if its under Windows RT, which personally, i think ppl will still go for Android as there r more features on Android devices than RT (I stand to b corrected) and just like me, i dont want iPad cos I have an iPhone, so I went for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 to experience another platform, and so far Im very happy with my tablet, though without ICS, it still functions like it did the day i unboxed it. Sales of Pro should not be in the same box as those of RT, since Pro will compete with the likes of OSX and RT with Android and iOS, which in my PERSONAL opinion, ppl will pick Android over RT due to RT not bn a Full Windows 8.
Just thinking.

And agin, still not "liking" Ray S, very subjective.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:39

27. maxican16 (Posts: 364; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)

You should have ICS soon...


posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:58

28. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 660; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)

At last, though its not a biggie for me cos I bought the device due to what it could do then, and it still works fine and im using it to type this reply, but I could use with some features on ICS.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 12:33

20. valapsp (Posts: 557; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)

I can't decide between Surface and Surface Pro?
Microsoft Surface is only 9.3mm thick but the Pro version is 13.5mm thick. The matter is that the thinner version runs Windows RT whereas the Pro one runs full Windows 8.
The only problem the Pro one has is its thickness. It is very thick compared to today's tablets. On the other hand I don't want to be limited to Windows Store apps that are the only apps available for Windows RT users. Help me decide please.
Should i focus on the 13.5mm thickness or it's nothing to worry about?

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 13:44

23. saiki4116 (Posts: 400; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)

my suggestion is wait for windows OEM,atleast one of them will be able to reduce the thickness and weight,of course you also have to wait for 3 mon after the win8 release for the pro version...

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