Metal body for Samsung Galaxy S4 would have meant delay
0. phoneArena 13 Apr 2013, 21:23 posted on
Samsung employees are beginning to get the message about the "plasticky" look and feel of some of its high end devices kike the Samsung Galaxy S III and the upcoming Samsung Galaxy S4; a report stated that Samsung had considered a metal casing for the phone, but rejected the idea when it sold have meant delays for the new flagship model...
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64. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Not love plastic, they love Samsung! Just explaining. :)
70. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Aluminium is a really cheap metal (almost as cheap as plastic). Its not like its durable/expensive or a premium metal. Get over yourselves already.
76. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Dude, I didn't even say a single word of "Aluminum"!
I just said "Samsung", "plastic", "premium materials", "Good news!" :P
116. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
How can plastic become premium material?
184. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
I think he was trying to suggest that if the two are priced similar than they both as cheap or premium as one another..I think the best way to think is that aluminium or metal just feels more premium than plastic.
81. true1984 (Posts: 768; Member since: 23 May 2012)
You do realize some cars have their frames mad of aluminum right? i understand you obviously support the S4 and all, but really,chill.
69. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Guys, remember! I'm serious, I said before plastic isn't a big deal right? Yes, I've said it before! I'm not saying plastic is cheap, but most of the peoples said that!
If Samsung don't like premium materials, they can at least make the S4 polycarbonate right?
But I still need to say this, Samsung needs premium materials to make their high-end smartphone (S4) more beasty and to compete with it's competitors! Talking about features, performance, battery, benchmarks.........Samsung wins it all! But premium feeling? No!
186. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
The s4 is polycarbonate... As for they need to use "premium" feeling material to compete, they are already out competing most of there competitors and other than apple is killing every other competitor to smoke..just needed to say this.
109. nhocnho (Posts: 3; Member since: 14 Apr 2013)
Aluminium is really cheaper than PolyCarbonate
117. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Aluminium gets scratches easily, and you can't remove the back cover if it is made by aluminium.
20. bojan (Posts: 188; Member since: 06 Oct 2012)
if samsung does premium materials and great speakers then samsung would be the king of smartphones at the moments this what is keep them from being the best
they need to go premium material
and have alot better stereo speakers and improve call quality
do this samsung and then hands down samsung you own the world.
71. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
So 3 things wrong with the s4? Dozens of things that samsung did better than the HTC one that actually matter like better cpu, gpu, battery life, battery size, micro sd, removable battery. I could case less about the phones speaker quality/what its made of, its pointless its going to be crappy anyway.
83. true1984 (Posts: 768; Member since: 23 May 2012)
Same CPU/GPU just clocked higher. I would think the battery and call quality would be the most important since it's a phone though.
105. feres13 (Posts: 306; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
Most of Galaxy S4s will have the S600 anyway, so CPU and GPU isn't a decision factor for the S4, and the S4 on every hands on i saw LAGGED, while the One did not!
There is things that now matter more than CPUs/GPUs, even if the S4 had 1/2 more fps in a game, the stereo speakers make the game more immersive!
23. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
Difference between Apple and Samsung design wise, one can't do a metal body because they don't have enough manufacturing fire power, the other, Apple can make a metal body, and still get it around the world in a few days.
187. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
The big difference is that apple makes 1 phone, samsung makes dozen, Samsung makes parts for others aswel as there own....or maybe that shouldn't be taken in to consideration too.
31. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
I hate to point out the obvious but Apple doesn't seem to have any problems supplying millions of metal chassis for the iPhone.
33. 14545 (Posts: 1361; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
What does this have to do with the manufacturing process? Clearly you have no clue about the design process. If they had changed the DESIGN it would have delayed the production. This is the same whether it is apple, HTC, ASUS, ACER, or anyone else. No different that the moto phones in the pipeline being different from googles vision.
42. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
You're right. It was a poor design to begin with.
48. 14545 (Posts: 1361; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
I won't necessarily disagree with you. That doesn't change the fact that your comment is stupid.
49. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
It's pathetic you're so offended by an anonymous comment.
52. 14545 (Posts: 1361; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Do you understand what the word "offended" means? You didn't understand the design process. So I have no reason to believe you understand what offended means.
156. kozza3 (Posts: 696; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)
wasn't the iphone 5 delayed a couple weeks?
32. Fruitpoop (Posts: 34; Member since: 27 Dec 2012)
Can we all stop complaining about Samsung using "cheap plastic"? This is subjective. Some people like it, others don't. Every material has its pros and its cons. If the S4 wasn't made out of plastic, it would not support micro sd and removable battery. Yes, it feels cheap to some people, but I actually find my friend's s3 pretty comfortable to hold. A glass back would be slippery and easily crack, while an aluminum unibody would get dents when dropped.
37. 14545 (Posts: 1361; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
I only have two issues with samsung. They *seem*, highly subjective, to break easier than phones from other manufacturers. 2, it seems like they can't build a great antenna to save their lives. They may be better than apple, but they are definitely worse than HTC and Moto. But given their being slightly more friendly to the development community, I will support them.
43. true1984 (Posts: 768; Member since: 23 May 2012)
well htc is pretty developer friendly as well, especially after making sense open source
46. 14545 (Posts: 1361; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Yes, they seem to be trying harder....now. But they are dead to me after dumping their tablet support like they did.
72. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Only the HTC developer editon can be rooted (cost $650) I doubt the HTC one will get much dev support for mods/roms.
79. true1984 (Posts: 768; Member since: 23 May 2012)
Well after the Evo 4G HTC openly stated the will support all future devices. i think the developer edition already comes with an unlocked bootloader, but the S3 did the same thing with their developer edition as well. but you should remember, HTC will unlock your phone for you. Besides, there has never been a device that couldn't be rooted. they said the same thing about Verizon's S3
78. Joonius (Posts: 1; Member since: 14 Apr 2013)
I think it's the last year's flagships S3 and Note2 that broke easy. The S2 was and is very solid.
34. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
Just dont remove rrplceable batt feat and expndble mmory,. Guys samsung ddnt choose the wrong material.. polycarbonate for me is better than glass and aluminum bcoz the latter two have more disadvantages as sleepingOZ said.. whats wrong is how sammy implement that polycarbonate, htc one X and lumias style of plastic are awesome ;)
36. PostalJim (Posts: 46; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)
If it was a metal body, I would have to get something else. Don't want a hunk of metal in my pocket. Lightweight is what I need. Call it cheap all you want, but from my Infuse, to my SII, to my SIII, I couldn't be happier.
44. 14545 (Posts: 1361; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
IMO, sammy is referred to as cheap, not because of lack of metal, but because in my experience they seem to break with less effort than other poly made phones.Example, look at the difference between the destructibility of a nokia compared to a samsung. Both are made from poly, but nokia's hold up much better. That's where the "cheap" comments come from.
53. PostalJim (Posts: 46; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)
Never got a scratch, crack or chip on the body of any of these, even when dropped w/o a case, (well, corner of the S2 got scuffs when dropped on concrete.) Broke 2 screens, one by falling on icy sidewalk with S3 in my back pocket, other when S2 fell out of my pocket and hit the asphalt while riding my 4 wheeler. Not the phone's design fault, my own. Had iPhones until my S2 and the body on those held up fine too, for the most part but they did scratch more readily in my experience. Just wish the iPhone was bigger yet lighter.
73. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
S4 has gorilla glass 3 and the one gorrila glass 2 (fun fact)
55. KFear (Posts: 139; Member since: 06 Feb 2012)
I've held a Galaxy S4. I work for Sprint. It feels a lot better than the S3. It feels more premium. If they didn't go plastic, it would be heavier, and you might have to compromise the removable back and battery. Everyone needs to stop talking about the build materials. If you don't like it...don't buy it.
57. Antonyjoseph (Posts: 217; Member since: 06 Apr 2013)
I dont think its a question of the phone being just plastic. It 'feels' flimsy and cheap. The Nokia Lumia 920 also has a plastic body, but doesn't feel cheap. I think Samsung needs to seriously look at its design philosophy. The S3 kind of shape is getting boring.
66. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Nokia Lumia 920 has a polycarbonate body, not plastic.
75. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
The s4 is also polycarbonate. Polycarbonate is not the cheap plastic you find on cheap Chinese toys. You will find aluminum in them though!
86. MobileJunkieJr (Posts: 46; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
Does Unibody ring a bell to you both?
Both are made of polycarbonate, which is plastic in a hardened form.
The strength of Nokia's 920 lies in the polycarbonate unibody and overall construction. Samsung has removable back cover and hence the parts inside are more prone and vulnerable to shock from falling. It's simple science dudes!
188. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
He was just saying that both were polycarbonate when someone was trying to suggest other wise.
80. Andrewtst (Posts: 578; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Is time Samsung change layout and material.
84. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 588; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)
Nothing wrong with plastic per se if it's done right a la Nokia. Samsung makes it look like Fisher Price.
88. androidlikeaboss (Posts: 40; Member since: 16 Nov 2012)
There's nothing wrong with Samsung using plastic/polyarbonate, just remove the hyperglaze sh*t on the S4, otherwise it will continue to feel cheap and uncomfortable
89. true1984 (Posts: 768; Member since: 23 May 2012)
I agree. They should have done it the same way as the One X
94. Esf_Kid (Posts: 49; Member since: 28 Feb 2013)
i dont say that i dislike plastic but we can't deny the premium feel of One or XZ.
S4 has its own advantages over others.
103. feres13 (Posts: 306; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
A watch with a plastic band is more durable than a stainless steel watch, but guess what? No one buys plastic watches especially when they are priced like a Rolex! (Only kids buy plastic watches)
106. feres13 (Posts: 306; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
if expandable storage and removable battery is the only reason for Samsung to make a plastic device, they why is the Note 8 and the Note 10 so cheap and ugly??? (especially the Note 8)
107. szeifryl (Posts: 5; Member since: 06 Apr 2013)
Plastic or metal, its the new features inside a phone that's important. Unlike other brands who produce phones with the same features because they focus on the design only. Samsung make flagship phones every year with additional functionality inside it. (Ex. Smart stay, smart rotation, s-pen, s-beam etc.many more.)
112. jo_Ny (Posts: 27; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)
Well well straight from the horse's mouth!! This is for all you samsung fanboys that keep saying that samsung plastic is great, better than everuthing else, and samsung phones have great looks and in hand feel etc After all samsung itself thinks other wise lol
189. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
How is this straight from the horses mouth...are these comments officially made by someone at Samsung
118. voxmarc (Posts: 329; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)
if Samsung decided to use metal or any premium material what will it be the competition like?....lets put it this way...S3 polycarbonate(plastic) body sells 40 million+...if they made S4 with metal or glass body and with the technology and money that they have .....how in the world other Android manufacturer will sell?
metal or plastic it is....have a Note 2 but hardly notice its plastic body since its covered/protected most of the time...you wouldnt want a freakin expensive phone to have dents and scratches.
134. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
Actually if Samsung made the S3 out of metal I don't believe Samsung would have been able to sale 40 million+ without having some kind of negative "metalgate" article. Plastic is still the way to go for mass production. Just look at the title of this article.
133. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
If the Note 3 is made from the same plastic as the Note 2 I'm still buying it. I've had my Note 2 for over 5 months in a case and my phone still looks brand new and it feels great with my hybrid case. And that's the key; I use a case on all my phones. Would I stop using cases if I were to buy a HTC One? No. So ultimately it does not matter to me if future Samsung phones are metal or plastic. Just don't get rid of removable batteries and SD cards. Not having to plug my phone into a charger and swapping out my battery every morning has been great. Not willing to give that up for a metal phone that I will be using a case on.
Most of these negative articles about plastic are popping up because HTC is in some real trouble and all of the HTC supporters are trying to find a chink(plastic) in Samsung armor (Galaxy series).
141. ahhxd717 (Posts: 332; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)
I think everyone is forgetting the point... Some people prefer metal to plastic. Is that wrong? Maybe some people are literally just wanting a different material. Somehow that's bad? No, at least someone is pushing samsung to try to make something different; again, that is also somehow bad. I don't understand.