Metal body for Samsung Galaxy S4 would have meant delay
0. phoneArena 13 Apr 2013, 21:23 posted on
Samsung employees are beginning to get the message about the "plasticky" look and feel of some of its high end devices kike the Samsung Galaxy S III and the upcoming Samsung Galaxy S4; a report stated that Samsung had considered a metal casing for the phone, but rejected the idea when it sold have meant delays for the new flagship model...
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25. SleepingOz (Posts: 2357; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
I like none of them. Metal interferes with signals and is prone to dent, scratch, flaking and bending. Glass is too fragile.
Carbon fiber or Kevlar similar to the Razr would be better.
I don't really mind polycarbonate though, as long as the build is solid like on my GNOTE II.
62. HDShatter (Posts: 1014; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Aluminium is not solid at all, it is very east to scratch/dent. Probably one of the worst materials to use on a phone.
129. SleepingOz (Posts: 2357; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
But it has a "premium feel" in hand. lol
74. MobileJunkieJr (Posts: 46; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
For a change, they could sacrifice .5 mm of thickness and thicken the back cover a l'le bit and use matte finish instead of the glossy one.
147. SleepingOz (Posts: 2357; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
I also prefer matte finish to glossy one but at the end of the day, you'll find yourself putting a nice case on it, so it doesn't really matter.
Also there are many third party cover replacements available on eBay; matte, leather, python, croco, stainless steel, anodized aluminium and even wood..
158. MobileJunkieJr (Posts: 46; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
That's true. But you know, there something about making the device case-free that makes it more appealing. Sure it keeps the device more safe and sound...but nothing like holding a bare, comfortable and handy device.
161. SleepingOz (Posts: 2357; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
If you love your smartphone naked, then get of of these for your phone..
As for myself, I'm a case addict! haha.. I have like 8cases for my GNOTE II! My fav is from UAG..
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163. MobileJunkieJr (Posts: 46; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
Ooo...that UAG looks like some cool military, ultra dangerous prototype! Lol.
182. taz89 (Posts: 1894; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Would love not to use a case too but when you just got a £500± phone you really don't want to damage it
26. Hemlocke (unregistered)
Having owned the iPhone 4 and 4s, as well as two Nexus 4's, no you don't want glass. It feels premium and looks cool, but the Nexus 4 has had problems breaking without even being dropped (It costs $140 to have fixed). There is a reason Google revised the Nexus 4 to put rubber bumpers on the back. A couple of guys on CTO received pre-broken Nexus 4's, and one had the back crack while he was holding it.
96. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3495; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I would rather have Kevlar or carbon fiber than any glass, metal, or plastic. Glass looks extremely nice, but is a high risk for cracks.
Aluminum looks great and has a nice cool feeling (literally cool), and though it won't crack like glass it still gets dents and scratches.
Plastic doesn't feel or look as high quality as metal or glass (especially when given a glossy finish), but is very durable.
Kevlar and carbon fiber give a nice middle area between premium feel and strength.
101. maier9900 (Posts: 257; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)
won't crack like glass????? - Where have you ever heard aluminum to crack? EVER... and you talking abt fricking kevlar and carbon fiber now? What you goona do, use a kevlar phone to stop a bullet? you in iraq or afghanistan? cuz you sound a little off.. Wherver you are and whatever your dream is, i'll leave you alone. peace!!!
144. MobileJunkieJr (Posts: 46; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
What the hell is your problem??
I guess you have the tendency to understand everything backwards.
196. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 147; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
He doesn't say aluminium (not aluminum) cracks, he states it doesnt crack... like glass does crack.
And kevlar & carbon fiber are used in so many areas not related to stopping a bullet (motorcycle safety, high speed cars and bikes, jets) that your remark is as stupid as they come.
7. GoBears (Posts: 277; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
I'd rather the plastic with removable backs and batterys. I use a case anyway and couldn't care less what the phone is made out of. I'm so sick of hearing about Sammy's build quality. I've had the Nexus, GS3 and the Note2 and never had an issue with the build of any of those phones. Guess it's all personal preference, I just hate sealed up unibody phones.
47. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Different folks different strokes.
They use plastic to save money and make more profit off your purchase. Is that a better way to put it? Cause that's the bottom line.
63. HDShatter (Posts: 1014; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
WAKE UP CALL: The lumia 920 uses polycarbonate just like the s4. Last time I checked aluminium wasn't exactly considered a premium metal either, and its relatively inexpensive like plastic.
Take a metal soda can and a plastic soda bottle. Tell me which one is easier to break and then GTFO with your metal BS.
85. true1984 (Posts: 242; Member since: 23 May 2012)
What about a car frame and a DVD. It might be hard to grasp, but aluminum is actually pretty strong. You sound like a fanboy.
90. MobileJunkieJr (Posts: 46; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
Actually, it depends on the one who has the phone; carelessness the culprit.
Aluminium is strong but when it falls, it leaves permanent dents, plastics are prone to break but is easily replaceable (But not in case of the 920 type of build).
91. true1984 (Posts: 242; Member since: 23 May 2012)
I fully agree. I was just stating aluminum can be as durable as plastic and HDShatter's comparisons were ridiculous
92. MobileJunkieJr (Posts: 46; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
I have an aluminium phone with plastic back cover...the frame is still strong with some few dents and scratches but the battery cover is not in a good condition. But, it's 3 years old now so...:)
131. ph00ny (Posts: 556; Member since: 26 May 2011)
dvd? it uses plastic for protection.
Car frame? Usage of aluminum to reduce weight in structural component is more to do with the advancement of structural engineering than the strength of the material itself. (I've seen more aluminum control arms breaking due to "hard" bumps than the steel counterpart)
Plastic is an engineered material and can be made to different specifications. (ie soda bottles vs pvc pipes)
193. true1984 (Posts: 242; Member since: 23 May 2012)
Actually DVDs use polycarbonate ,just like the S4
149. SleepingOz (Posts: 2357; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
Aluminium may "absorb" shock better than other metals like steel or iron but it's a well known fact that rigid metals have mediocre shock absorbing ability. Even if the moment of inertia has to be three times as great for an aluminium extrusion to achieve the same deflection as a steel profile, it cannot be compared to polycarbonate when it comes to shock absorbing ability. One of the reason why aluminium get easily dented/deformed on strong impacts is because it doesn't cope with stress like plastic does, even though it's a soft metal. It just takes the shock from one point(a) and transfers it to another point(b). The aluminium part that took the shock may not break, but the other parts around it probably will. Plastic, polycarbonate in this case, will absorb shock better and distribute it more uniformly over the its body.
160. gustavoace (Posts: 59; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)
You couldnt be more wrong... A few weeks ago, PA posted that GS3 plastic costs to samsung more than tha alumminum from Iphone 5 costs to apple. So, its not about being cheap, but I think plastic is more durable. And all the "3 months old iphone 5 looks horrible" speaks for itself.
I dont like either, but they do have great quality.
162. BadAssAbe (Posts: 434; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)
Yes plastic does save money but galaxy's phones also have better parts like the G Glass 3, DDR3 ram and so on
197. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 147; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
You are aware that a S4 costs more to produce than for example an Iphone 5, so stating they use plastic to make more profit is rather ignorant.
9. Apartments (Posts: 16; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)
Really people is that the best complaint you have is plastic
most of you will use a case anyway..it's about the features people
thanks Samsung for awesome features
14. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5149; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
I agree completely. I use a case and couldn't care less about the plastic body on my Note II. Take the $ that would go into a metal body and put it into a better camera sensor or OIS (stills and video) or HD audio. The plastic body with swappable battery and SD memory works just fine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
41. PostalJim (Posts: 46; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)
Millions upon millions of us agree with you.
65. HDShatter (Posts: 1014; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
HTC One owners will learn that metal phones have more cons than pros.
The One Pro is it looks better.
Cons: scratching, dents, conducts heat, unibody only, weighs more, makes the wifi/cell radio perform worse etc.
Samsung the 1 con of polycarb is it can look cheap. But it won't dent, conduct electricy, block wiki/service radio and it will be much harder to scratch. It also allows for remvoeable back so you can have removeable battery and micro sd.
87. true1984 (Posts: 242; Member since: 23 May 2012)
Do you have proof of the radio performance even though in comparison tests the HTC One had better call quality? And the pro to aluminum is durability. The only I'm choosing HTC this time is because i don't want to deal with AMOLED. i would suggest you read the reviews before you decide to make up facts
104. feres13 (Posts: 295; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
Actually the HTC One has a metal body, OIS and HD audio!
122. papss (Posts: 2850; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
I don't use any cover and would prefer not too. I want to keep the look of my phone the way the manufacture designed not some cheap feeling cover or overly bulky cover that leaves no style. Simply put there's no reason other than SS being cheap for the finish of their phones... Spin it how you like but shows you will look blind to this fault and are no different than a sheep
183. taz89 (Posts: 1894; Member since: 03 May 2011)
The s3 actually cost Samsung more to manufacturer than the iPhone 5 so its not about being cheap.
10. Bozzor (Posts: 87; Member since: 02 May 2012)
I would imagine a compromise of plastic and metal would be good. What I still appreciate about Samsung phones so much is the SD card and removable battery: that does not seem to wow people at purchase time, but when you suddenly want to throw in a whole bunch of new battery slurping HD movies to watch on a boring 12 hour plane flight, you will appreciate those features. Samsung needs to find a way to give people both, and spend some of its marketing dollars on reminding people on how useful those features actually are.
124. papss (Posts: 2850; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
I agree with that feature being a great one... And spending marketing dollars to remind people of those features
11. pyradark (Posts: 687; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)
its better to be late/delay than Old Same Ugly Looks. if S4 is metallic it already wipe the floor on smartphone. DESIGN IS A DRAWBACK
and LOL removable battery? there are so many portable battery charger around the world.
29. SleepingOz (Posts: 2357; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
I'd rather take a min to replace my battery than carry a fat power station and wait for hours for my phone to charge.
67. HDShatter (Posts: 1014; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
S4 (international) owners will be enjoying a more powerful phone. Just go buy an HTC One, I wish you luck selling it after people realize that its not a good phone.
95. pyradark (Posts: 687; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)
Sorry Im not gonna buy a phone from a bashing and falling down company. Ive been thinking of S4 and when the features and specs shows, definitely S4, but when they show the device, ok no thanks i rather get the outdated phone but tough phone the XZ!!
98. feres13 (Posts: 295; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
btw even the international model will be the S600 version, not the exynos, the exynos will launch in some asian markets, but most of the world will get the Snapdragon version. This processor war has to end, all smartphones are smooth! (But on every hands on i saw there was some lag in the S4 despite the overclocked processor when compared to the One witch didn't lag!)
12. PAUser (banned) (Posts: 7; Member since: 13 Apr 2013)
S4 very dead¥>€¢¥©
Very cheap plastic single core 800mhz processor 256mb ram @#$?£¥©
Very lags android gingerbread£¢¤°©
Only 50 apps and games£¢¥¥¤°°^
18. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5462; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Youre the worst troll on here so far
77. PAUser (banned) (Posts: 7; Member since: 13 Apr 2013)
nooo i not lie..£¢¤¤©
it is very dead dont u buy it plsssss €¢¥¤¤©€€>¥€€©°°
27. SleepingOz (Posts: 2357; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
Hahahahahaha! Thumb up for you! Thanks for the good laugh! XD
97. darkkjedii (Posts: 8877; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
My question is, who the gave that post two green thumbs?
13. Taters (Posts: 2088; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
The Vapor MG on the surface seems pretty good at scratches and heat dissipation. So if they go metal, they should go with that. Surface is kind of heavy though so I think the Xperia Z style with glass is the best.
The iPad 3 and apparently the HTC One get pretty hot. And the iPhone 5 and HTC One dent and scratch too easily.
15. BadAssAbe (Posts: 434; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)
Why not just sell a metal back cover replacement?
68. HDShatter (Posts: 1014; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
It sounds easier to do than it is to make. Also metal won't bend a little like polycarb on the s4 and it would damage the back if you were not 100% careful.
16. cR203 (Posts: 166; Member since: 27 Jan 2013)
Everybody is always complaining about the quality of Samsung phones but at the same time who keeps their phone naked? The average person always has a case on their phone so the phones actual build materials are always covered up by a phone case. I'm not saying Samsung shouldn't step away from the plastic but its really not as important as everyone makes it seem.
28. KParks23 (Posts: 395; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)
Actually it is!!! my s3 is the first phone I ever bought and actually though wow I need to get a case for this POS so I did AND IT STILL BROKE! and the back of the phone scratches way too easy. All my other phones I had for years naked and never broke!
40. true1984 (Posts: 242; Member since: 23 May 2012)
actually a lot of people, such as myself dont use cases. i actually only know a few people that do use cases. and yes i know, my friends are stupid
159. cR203 (Posts: 166; Member since: 27 Jan 2013)
Everyone I know that has a phone has a case over it. To be honest, I don't know anyone who doesn't use a phone case.
17. xperiaDROID (Posts: 4641; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Finally! Samsung needs to know that plastic is not attractive at all, if they keep using plastic on their high-end phones, they will always remain the name called "CHEAP" forever.
They need premium materials to compete with its competitors, just think about it, HTC One is using metal, and Sony Xperia Z is using glass, and Samsung's Galaxy S4 is just using plastic. So, now Samsung finally think about metal? Good news! Good news!
39. PostalJim (Posts: 46; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)
Amazing how 30million+ love cheap plastic. Just sayin'.