Meg Whitman's HP plans seem to be more buzzwords than solutions
1. itiswhatitis (Posts: 423; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)
Well, that's because she's still figuring what she should do with WebOS!!!
2. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
If that's the case, she shouldn't have said, "now there is a clear vision of what we're trying to accomplish."
3. itiswhatitis (Posts: 423; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)
Well that's exactly what i'm talking about she wants to make them feel that they(HP) know exactly what they're doing as to make sure she keeps the investors happy!!But, after i read this article i felt like she's trying to run away from talking about Web OS
10. snowgator (Posts: 3503; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Come on, Micheal, get real. If she said that, we would all crucify her for not showing leadership or focus.
She and all of HP are really sitting in a difficult position with WeBOS. They couldn't sell it for a loss due to the stock holders already being shaky, but they are a hardware company that made a mistake trying to become a software company all at once.
4. dejahu (Posts: 35; Member since: 01 Feb 2012)
At least she isn't making these bold, outlandish statements about how profitable the coming years are going to be. "The future couldn't be any brighter for HP" kind of stuff. She knows that webOS needs help. Finding a way to get the masses invested in their "roadmap" will bring more profitable ventures to the table.
6. JGuinan007 (Posts: 662; Member since: 19 May 2011)
I think HP is trying to make Web OS just like Android for Google but make it for enterpise users and conect with HP products
7. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Meg is just continuing her tradition of spewing pablum - she never knew how to run a company like HP (eBay is nothing like HP), and her days of being able to assimilate 'on-the-job' passed a long time ago.
13. snowgator (Posts: 3503; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
"pablum"? Geez, Doug, make everyone run to a dictionary, why don't ya buddy?? :-)
8. jove39 (Posts: 1582; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
HP need to get rid of webos now...just like nokia getting rid of symbian...and HP need to focus on Android and Windows Phone/tablets...and on topf that HP need to come up strong and bank upon Microsoft's ecosystem by integrating Notebooks/Tablets/Phones as much as they can...however Microsoft is already doing that...HP should leverage it as much as possible :)
9. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)
She hasn't got a clue....Look what she did with Ebay. She has no tech knowledge, and it shows. That's why she is downing the competition, and avoiding making a clear concise statement about her position, and direction with Web OS. Eliminating suites and parking lot fences is about all she is capable of doing at HP. HP needs a tech savvy leader, not a pencil pushing idiot. Let's see how long she last, and if they give her 117 million to leave like the last guy received.
11. Tarkio (Posts: 30; Member since: 17 Jan 2012)
She's a complete stooge. She'll end up driving them into the ground if they keep here very long. I'd say 18 months of service, and she'll be out on her butt where she belongs.
12. snowgator (Posts: 3503; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
I am not as down on her as everyone else is. (Polictically motivated resentment, maybe? How dare HP hire a conservative female to run a tech company? Or am I just being a conspiracy peddler?) I think she can show great leadership and get the right people in the right place and get HP refocused on what they do best. She prevented them from dividing the company into 2 which would have been stupid, now has them refocused on hardware as is their bread and butter, and sounds like she is bringing the executives back down to normal levels and out of the clouds that they were ruling from on high. RIM could take a lesson from that.
I kinda see @QWIKSTRIKE's point, though. At some point, they will need an experienced tech to run HP, especially if they really want to open source WeBOS. I do not think it will work, and they will just end up selling it for pennies on the dollar at some point when they can afford to absorb the loss better. (What a waste.) But if they do try, Ms. Whitman may not be the right person to see it through.
14. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
"I am not as down on her as everyone else is. (Polictically motivated resentment, maybe?"
You might have a better argument if Meg had been better at running for governor. Probably the most damning ad that Jerry Brown's campaign ran was the one that juxtaposed quotes from Meg and Ahnold - they used the exact same words. The voters decided to forego the opportunity to let another neophyte screw things up any more than they already were.
15. snowgator (Posts: 3503; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Doug.... Doug... Doug.....
My whole point in throwing that line in there is that if she hadn't run for Governor, she would not be getting the grief she is. Apparently, in less than 6 months she is supposed to undo several billion dollars of mistakes. No chance. All she can do is get the right people in the right places to right the ship for HP. And, unfortunately for those of us who used and enjoyed WeBOS, that means returning HP to a hardware company first, everything else needs to support that. I see no room for WeBOS in those plans unless something grand happens.
And by the way- California's woes started before Arnold. Had he done even one bit of what he said he would after the recall, things would be better. But he didn't- he continued to use the tax payers money as his own piggy bank and he and the legislation that served with him just pandered to votes and special interest. I see no reason to hold Meg Whitman responsible for his failure. Got a crispy dollar bill that says things are no better after 4 years of Jerry Brown. California should be easily the most prosperous, economically sound state in our nation, and it shouldn't even be close.
16. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)
Snowgator,come on man get a grip. Politics has nothing to do with her leadership role at HP. Look at her time while running EBAY, and the legacy that she left behind.
Amazon took off while Ebay lost its way. Most sellers on Ebay hate what she has done to Ebay while she was there. She took a great company, and turned it into a lean mean "nickle and dime company" to help boost the stock, but in the end managed to make lots of sellers go to Amazon to sell leaving Ebays stock in the toilet.
As for politics I am for neither dem or republican because they both suck, but as a Republican governor she would have done to California what she did at Ebay......run it into the toilet.
HP screwed up with WEBos. They could have developed a nice ecosystem around it like Apple did with I phone. That was their goal, but a terrible design and out dated hardware killed that project. Offering the platform at great prices showed them that they were not completely out of synch. They outsold any tablet sold during that fire sale. They should have used that as a spring board to go to the next level while flooding the Market with cheap WEBos tablets while getting the platform to where it needed to be, a faster processor, and a bigger screen for the phone.
Off topic Republicans are running America into the toilet, and they have a few Dem leaders helping them like Arlen Spectre, a republican turned Democrat to save his seat, and other self serving elected officials. These two parties that have their heads shoved so far up their own asses they don't realize the s**t they smell is their own.
They tell you to vote for them because they can create jobs while every self respecting economist is telling you that demand is the only job creator, besides cutting edge technology. Off shoring jobs has been their answer
They take jobs and off shore them, and then tell you to buy the products made over seas "Apple" "HP", and the others like them, while cutting your salary, or position. They then tell you they do it to save you money, and that you want it cheap, and can't have it both ways.
I tell you to look at their earnings report, and the cost of things, and ask them since they have off shored jobs why hasn't there been a decrease in product pricing. The pricing never got cheaper for many of the products. The labor cost savings were used to buoy their stock performance for stock holders, while board members and CEO's salaries like Meg Whitman went up. HP recently off shored jobs to bolster stock performance but then fired the last CEO paying 117 million to get rid of him. Rubenstein, and other WEBs top techs are walking out of HP since Meg Whitman's tenure. You might say it wasn't her fault....I say; she gave them no reason to stay based on what she has in store for them. Had she really known what she was doing, and had a real plan for WEBos they would not be jumping ship! Wake up......enough of this off topic bull crap because I can make a book on the facts not hear say!
17. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Well, QWIK, you kind of beat me to the reply to Snow.... :-)
One thing I would add is that a study by one of the top tier universities (it might have been Rutgers, but I am too lazy to do a search) showed the fiscal plan put forward by Davis would have left the state in a better financial position even after factoring in the impact of the Great Recession....
Lastly, California suffers from a dysfunctional legislative process - any fiscal legislation requires 2/3 majority in both houses of legislature to proceed to governor for signature. Want to reform the tax code to reduce rates but also remove exemptions? Better find a 2/3s majority in both houses or it ain't happening. This is economic terrorism of the worst sort. At some point, the Rs will drop to below 1/3, and the first order of business when that happens should be to amend the state constitution to remove the 2/3s in both houses requirement.
18. snowgator (Posts: 3503; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Okay, I should have stuck to my original statement of Ms. Whitman that if she hadn't run for Gov, she would not be getting the grief on these posts she is. The delving into the politics was stupid on my part. Yes, I do disagree with ya'll on most of your points, but no this ain't the place for it. We will call this my bad.
I really loved WeBOS, and I do not think HP can pull off open sourcing it, nor do I think they want to. I think they are trying to get it to a place where it can be open sourced and therefore is worth a little more. In the end, it will probably be sold off for it's patents and that will be the end of it.
I do agree with you Qwickstrike she is not the person for this job long term. But I do think she should get a year or a little more to improve the structure. I bet she does fine with that. Than step down and let someone with tech knowledge take over.
WeBOS- what a waste.
19. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)
Snowgator, your original statement is the flawed part of the message. This has nothing to do with her running for governor. She just plain sucks as a CEO. She was on the board of HP when WEBos was bought to HP She is clueless and this should not be about her running for a position that was never granted to her.
Look at Ebay and what she did while running Ebay. She left Ebay a place where sellers left by the droves for Amazon.
Today's CEO's suck, because instead of doing whats right for their company they do whats right for the stock holder. Google took heat last year for taking profits, and using it for infrastructure R&D. It paid off and everyone is happy now that they did this. When they announced losses due to R&D the stock tanked.
If CEO's don't take time to reinvest in their technology the stock profits may grow, but with old fragmented aging technology they will eventually drown......ergo HP!