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MediaTek's new MT6592 octa-core chipset scores over 32,000 on AnTuTu

0. phoneArena 21 Nov 2013, 04:55 posted on

We've talked about MediaTek's new octa-core chipset already, and while the prospect of whopping eight cores may sound overly exciting to some, we're still stuck...

This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 04:57

1. _Bone_ (Posts: 2126; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Forget AnTuTu already for crying out loud. It's unreliable and benches a whole other things besides CPU, so it's not really useful since GPU, memory etc. can make a big difference.

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 05:07 6

4. Chris.P (Posts: 270; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)


Tests those as well. How well is a different question -- which is why we always cross-bench.

I'd actually love to hear your reasoning. For me, all this AnTuTu-bashing turned into a myth a while ago, as nothing of concrete substance was ever brought up. At least to my knowledge.

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 05:51 1

7. _Bone_ (Posts: 2126; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Results differ wildly on a single device, even more so on a different kernel, but that's nothing compared to the Nexus 5 doing half the AnTuTu scores of the "optimized" Note 3 on the same SoC... it's useless for proper CPU measurements, there are specific benchmark tools for that.

Of course it's a criticism of the manufacturers not of PhoneArena that's merely reporting the news. We just didn't learn a thing of the MediaTek performance because of the wrong benchmark tool was used.

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 07:19 1

13. Chris.P (Posts: 270; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)


It does differ wildly, indeed -- on our LG G2, we were getting scores with a margin of +/- up to 2,000 points at the extreme. This is much less pronounced on the lower/mid range of the spectrum, or when you go ahead and benchmark it a finite number of times, enough to strike a middle.

The point is, the scores fluctuate for all devices, so in a way it evens out at the end. Is it perfect? Heck no, but it does provide a now widely-recognized (!!!) platform by which to judge how well the device will handle itself given a set of granted circumstances. In fact, in the years I've used AnTuTu, I've never once had a score that was clearly inaccurate. Sure, It'll be impossible to call a 14,000 score device from, say, a 15,000 one, but you can still glean viable information from it. Which is why we still use it.

In other words, I still don't get what's so wrong with AnTuTu.

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 08:01

15. cezarepc (Posts: 564; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)


Nothing wrong with Antutu IMO too, but instead of using the result of a single device tested multiple times I find it more accurate to get the average scores of all the people who benchmarked their device (same unit).

I know a lot of people want to know the performance of a chip but as we've seen that hardly matters (some flagships are equipped with exactly the same internals but differs a lot in benchmarks). What matters is the end product where these chips ends up in.

Since every user will have different settings enabled, different amount of storage used, different amounts of remaining battery, temperature, etc that would give the overall world performance and a truelly more accurate representation of the device itself and not the chip inside it.

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 08:05

16. TediT (Posts: 37; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


Please do explain why Nexus 5 is getting such low scores even though it has the best chipset on the market?

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 09:14

17. Taters (Posts: 2924; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Basically because pure android is not optimized for benchmarks, they don't care about it and possibly some thermal throttling going on.

The main reason though is because there are too many Ifans or HTC fans in the media and they perceive the Nexus 5 as too big of a threat. If the Nexus 5 crushed everything in benchmarks at $349 a pop that would be too powerful.

So all the ifans with media power concentrate on single thread scores and browser benchmarks masked as CPU benchmarks because they know chrome automatically loses to safari and they act like it is fair. Basically everything is abitrary and their is a lot of cherry picking to discredit the Nexus 5. Such as most reviewers giving the Nexus 5 bad scores for not having the best camera while the HTC One gets a free pass for having a bad one. Or all of a sudden the use of plastic over metal automatically deducts your score by 1 or 2. It is all arbitrary and Apple has too many converts in place.

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 09:14

18. Chris.P (Posts: 270; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)


As far as I remember from our Nexus 5 review, it wasn't cheating on the benchmarks like, say LG, Samsung or HTC. Read more here:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Cheat-this-New-benchmark-claims-to-have-solved-cheating-pits-the-Galaxy-S4-with-the-HTC-One_id49561

Moreover, thermal throttling ensures that the chipset never gets hotter than x degrees, which is apparently a bit too conservative on the N5 for an inefficient design or whatever reason.

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 09:42

19. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 163; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


Since the phone sells for cheap, it must use much lower quality variants of the same S800 chip. Due to the lower quality part, heavy thermal throttling, just like the Nexus 4 is present in order to save the chip and provide longer lifetime.

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 07:11

11. silencer271 (Posts: 166; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


They wont they love how their bosses iphone preforms on it

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 05:01 6

2. shahrooz (Posts: 137; Member since: 17 Sep 2013)


China is going to dominate Cellphone Industry with good quality yet not expensive phones in the near future. Mark my words!

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 06:04 3

8. dratomic (Posts: 461; Member since: 09 Oct 2013)


i totally agree with you shahrooz joon

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 07:49 2

14. Shatter (Posts: 2023; Member since: 29 May 2013)


Mediatek just needs to built US bands + LTE into their chips and it will happen.

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 12:25

20. roobs (Posts: 53; Member since: 18 Mar 2013)


XiaoMi =)

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 05:07 2

3. mr.techdude (Posts: 543; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


Most cellphones sold are Asian manufacturers, your prediction is more then halfway right.

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 05:12

5. cezarepc (Posts: 564; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)


If those benchmarks is an indication of how well these chips will perform it would be great to see phones and tabs rocking this. Lower price than Nexus devices, decent chips, well-known manufacturer. Hard to say no to that.

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 05:23 4

6. veer.d (Posts: 85; Member since: 12 Jul 2013)


I don't think it is threat to threat to qualcomm in higher end because it may not support LTE

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 06:16 1

9. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2613; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


I think it still lacks some of the features which Qualcomm have.

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 07:03 1

10. taikucing (unregistered)


It even lacks compass and the GPS is crap. I don't even mention LTE

posted on 21 Nov 2013, 07:14 1

12. Chris.P (Posts: 270; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)


Has compass, GPS is hopefully fixed once and for all.

As far as I know, MTK is working on LTE already, though that's a considerable drawback, indeed. Then again, do consider that much of the world can still only wish for 4G.

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