MediaTek announces first true octa-core processor
0. phoneArena 27 Jul 2013, 02:33 posted on
MediaTek, as has been rumored, announced on Saturday morning the world's first true octa-core processor; now you might be wondering about the Samsung Exynos 5 octa-core processor. As you might recall, with that chip, only one group of four cores is active at a time. With the new processor introduced by MediaTek, all eight cores are active at the same time...
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1. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Mediatek needs to start supporting penta band and lte then these would have a chance in the US.
45. zhiae (Posts: 187; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)
same octa in s4 will need a tiny kernal to work like that
46. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)
Take this Mediatek:-
"The (Exynos 5 Octa) 5420 can use any combination of the eight CPU cores at a time."
"The to-be-announced new processor is the 5420, it's not a new revision of the 5410. It has the same target clocks as the 5410 but with a properly working CCI to be able to use GTS, and the GPU is replaced with a new generation Mali T62X instead of the SGX 544. It also has some other miscellaneous updates like VP9 encoder/decoder. It'll debut in the new Chromebook this fall."
GTS=Global Task Switching=5420 can use all 8 cores at the same time.
48. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)
Mediatek may have been the first to announce a "true" Octa Core. But they won't be the first one to ship it or the fastest one. I am glad Samsung is finally back in action. Now I just hope Samsung gets GTS working before Key Lime Pie is released.
49. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
The mediatek will have significantly better battery life than that samsung octa...
54. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)
I don't think so. Both rely on Cortex A7s for low power operation. If you compare battery life whiile gaming. Yes, Exynos Octa wil lose. But it will deliver a far better experience since 5420's GPU beats iPad 4's and Tegra 4's GPU.
2. Katrina (Posts: 71; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)
i dont want to live on this planet anymore...
THAT thing has more cores than my computers...
4. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
fx 8350 has 8 cores.
Also per core performance is much more important than the amount of cores. This thing is worse than a core 2 duo so no I doubt its anywhere close to your computer.
24. MrPhilo (Posts: 48; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
The FX 8xxx / 9xxx isn't 8 core at all its 4 modules but uses a similar technology like hyperthread from Intel. AMD calls it 8 core for advertising term and marketing.
I have the i9500 and I have disabled the A15, the 4 A7 cores perform well close to an A9 at 1.2Ghz as well. These A7 are clocked at 1.7Ghz - 2.0Ghz so they just perform just as well but better.
31. iStabrak (banned) (Posts: 21; Member since: 26 Jul 2013)
That was a big mistake by Samsung clocking those cores at 1.2GHZ instead of 1.7, 2.0GHZ. Or else it would'ev not been a failure!
41. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Its a lot closer to a real 8 core than the i7s. The 100% "real" desktop 8 core will be out from intel next year. Haswell-enthusiast should be 8 cores with 16 threads, have 6gbps faster sata ports and ddr4 memory. Will run you about $600 for the cpu and $300ish for a good socket 2011 board.
43. Rehankhan (Posts: 323; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
what are you smoking ? Haswell is already out and socket 1150 processor doesnt work with (2011) socket 1155 mobo
44. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Coming late 2014.
The current enthusiast series is still Sandy-e
20. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
At least now KIRF China phones can also enjoy Octa core, /s
25. rd_nest (Posts: 1059; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)
That's a 8 core A7 SOC.
Practically useless as no app is multi-threaded to such extent. Most browsers are still largely single threaded.
No, it doesn't help at all in games, as games largely depend in GPU.
It's a gimmick.
34. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
I wonder to what extent MediaTek is benefitting from the Chinese govt's hacking campaign? 8 cores from out of almost no where? With no logical design progression (2 cores from a design license with ARM to 4 cores to 8 cores, for example)?
I suspect this is going to be quite the developing story for 2014 and beyond.
40. sherby (Posts: 7; Member since: 21 Jun 2013)
Dude they are a taiwanese company and if you want to talk about hacking US and UK are way ahead. They can hack everyone and probably store your info forever and ever just like google. :P
38. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
This is what I've been trying to say all along... but people don't seem to realize that this won't change anything...
51. sswain (Posts: 50; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
try ffmpeg that's fully threaded with x264 encoding and works fine up to 16 cores today and its available on play for Free OC
an Ak30 dual A9 cnm 10.1dual gets an average of 9fps encoding a generic mob here so these acts core will be good for making your new arm DIY home server/NAS more productive along side the enevitable octacore HDMI TV stick that will appear soon
3. spiderpig2894 (Posts: 460; Member since: 10 Jan 2012)
This deserves to be really called an octacore unlike the Exynos which should be called as a 4+4.
42. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Big.little is a marketing scheme, most people that are not into tech but know enough about phone specs think the exynos 5 is an 8 core cpu.
13. shuaibhere (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
but still the new exynos evolved scored more than this chip...cuz it has pure 4 a15 cores which is equal or powerful than this 8 a7 cores...
15. ranatju (Posts: 8; Member since: 08 Jun 2013)
but still its price will be lower than the new samsung exynos...
18. shuaibhere (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
but you're not goin to get this on any trusted OEM's phones...even if they make a phone with this chip they'are not goin to reduce the price of smartphone...
27. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
Sony and LG will use mediatek chipset for entry level and midrange phone, and it will be cheaper than other mid range phone with Qualcomm or Exynos chipset.
22. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)
Having 8 A7's is much better in terms of efficiency per unit area of the chip.
For eg. On the Exynos Octa the combined area of all 8 cores is 23 mm^2 (19 mm^2 for A15s + 4 mm^2 for A7s) whereas on the Mediatek the combined area of all 8 cores will be around 8 mm^2. So there will be cost savings in that regard.
28. tech2 (Posts: 2860; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
There is a reason why Samsung went for Dual Quad core or Octa core
Its because lot of the apps still only use 4 threads. So although this processor may have 8 cores its full potential will never be utilized.
5. dan86 (Posts: 298; Member since: 17 Mar 2012)
I hope Qualcomm is watching this with the morning breakfast.
8. KiranPAUSER (Posts: 73; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
Samsung's octa core is glimmick. Snapdragon 800 is better than that. Mediatek has done really good job. Now the rest will follow later this year.
14. shuaibhere (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
still exynos evolved scored more than any of this chips..
17. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)
glimmick?? LOL XD
30. yowanvista (Posts: 336; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
big.LITTLE was created by ARM as a reference design. It has nothing to do with Samsung, it fact they're the first manufacturer who adopted the design. Go troll elsewhere.
32. iStabrak (banned) (Posts: 21; Member since: 26 Jul 2013)
Snapdragon is no way near that A15! If the Exynos was clocked at 2.3 like the S800 it would destroy it! ARM made a big mistake clocking those A7s at 1.2 instead at 1.7 or 2.0 Ghz.
Snapdragon is efficient and friendly
ExynosA15 has pure raw power which needs 3000 Mah battery to be sufficient.
9. KiranPAUSER (Posts: 73; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
Cheap is the mantra of this era. To be king you need to be cheap. Look at google, samsung, other chinese phone makes they are king because they are cheap. No wonder apple will loose out unless they introduce crappy cheap iphone minis:-)
12. Rehankhan (Posts: 323; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
neither google nexus devices are cheap in non google play countries nor samsung best selling devices are cheap and what exactly are you smoking about chinese phone makers being king?
23. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
nexus 4 is priced the same as lumia 720 here. philippines
33. WindowsiDroid (Posts: 122; Member since: 22 Jul 2013)
I dont think so, coz in our country Lumia 720= 13k vs Nexus 4= 18k >.
19. Droid773 (Posts: 27; Member since: 22 Dec 2012)
Cheap your azzzzzzzz. Get a life morrrrrron
16. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Its diffrent because arm is open source, eventually it will be AMD vs ARM vs Intel in phones and tablets. AMD will be for graphics and low cost, intel will be for performance and expensive and their lower end chips targeted at arm, arm is a balance between the two but worse than intels cpu power and worse than AMDs phone/tablet apus graphics.
21. Gaurav008 (Posts: 294; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
LG and Sony are on the bandwagon of Mediatek's processors.. Gear up. :D
29. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
Watch out high end phones. People are starting to buy cheaper products with almost the same experience. Well, at least on my country, , philippines.
47. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
If the US didn't have corrupt carriers and used the 2100mhz band like the rest of the world those phones would be popular here too.
53. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2448; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
One of the reasons the carriers are using lower mhz frequencies is for building penetration. Sprint's WiMax was up in the 2k mhz range and sucked out loud once you went in a structure. It's a fact of life that lower frequencies penetrate the materials in buildings better. Just look at walkie talkies, the uhf ones that advertise 5-25 miles ranges specify in open air with no obstructions. That's why the ones you see security guards and contractors using are vhf. When I was a contractor a pair of our vhf models died. We tried some uhf models and inside a building they were good for nothing. We ended up using our cell phones which were Verizon (I believe they use 700 or 750 for their 3G bands) and they worked fine. If it doesnt work inside what's the point?
35. nothingmuch (Posts: 184; Member since: 03 May 2013)
Wow! Finally a 8 core phone! Now I have all the computing power I need!! Im going to get rid of XPS 8600 i7 now!! Yay
36. mikeguy1981 (Posts: 78; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)
It makes it look like the exynos can only run 4 power saving cores or 4 high performance cores. This is so not the case. It can run any four combination at any given time balancing performance and battery life.
37. livyatan (Posts: 842; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
In a year or so, mediatek could build a 16 (hexa) core chip, based on the A53 core.
The tiny A53 consumes amazing 20% the power of the A9, with the ability to outperform it, per clock speed , once the 64bits are fully implemented.
Those who think a 16 core is an overkill.. keep in mind that the A53 is about one quarter the size of a A15/Krait 400..so the chip wouldn't be bigger at all..in fact, printed on 20nm litography, it should be smaller than current quad cores
39. Sondae (Posts: 218; Member since: 02 Jan 2013)
I cant wait of this chip to be release in the market if this really compete againts qualcomm and exynos of samsung. If this product will be successful in the market then it will be octa craze specially on a rebrandad phone that is being sold here in asia.
50. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Now all the HTC One/S4 clones will just as powerful as the real thing lol.
52. Doctor_Drei (Posts: 18; Member since: 27 Jul 2013)
Hopefully Samsung or other big brands will use it on their devices like what Sony did. (teknogadyet.com)