Meanwhile in Pakistan: Gov't bans cheaper late night calling because it is 'against social norms'
The idea? Simple, while carriers in the South Asian country are competing in price by offering cheaper call rates at night, the authorities suspect that it’s all promoting vulgar calls.
"We have received a number of complaints from the Supreme Court of Pakistan, the Standing Committee of the parliament, (parliamentarians) and subscribers regarding the promotion of vulgarity through such advertisements and have therefore asked cellular mobile operators to immediately discontinue such packages and to present compliance reports," Pakistan Telecommunication Authority Chairman Farooq Awan said.
Those were qualified as practices "against social norms" and the “values” of the country.
On Facebook and Twitter, many Pakistanis were quick to protest what seems an absurd decision. Some accused the Government of moral policing.
Just about a year ago, Pakistani carriers were forced to filter out SMS messages with against a list of 1,700 ‘bad’ words, and the country is now actively discussing whether it should or should not filter YouTube and Twitter like China.
source: The Times of India
35. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3013; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Man, if you have 'no comment', don't comment at all. Seriously, your comment is redundant! Don't waste space.
No offence, but i would really hate to be born there.
I'd really feel claustrophobic.
51. Birds (Posts: 1003; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Fool, some people want to be first...don't waste comments like that..its more precious then clean water on the Euphrates.
56. drahmad (Posts: 478; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
if most people in Pakistan are happy about this, then he govt. must have done something right. you people don't understand this. its becoming a craze in Pakistan. if you talk the whole night long to your g.f , then how the hell can you work in your day? other than that it has created many many issues (legal). that's is why the supreme court has shown concerns.
2. gothicheart (Posts: 82; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)
i do pity pakistanis, this is obviously politically motivated...
3. ABDULGHAFOOR (Posts: 83; Member since: 04 May 2012)
ME from PAKISTAN ,and this is good decision.
9. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1242; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
How would you like it if Pakistan blocked your post between the hours of 10pm to 7am?
18. anirudhshirsat97 (Posts: 397; Member since: 24 May 2011)
Although i think that rule is damn stupid, the ideology of Pakistan is that way. You cant blame them. Let them live by their rules instead of forcing them with modern thinking everytime.
28. meeaaoon (Posts: 20; Member since: 02 Oct 2012)
and what about the service provider forcing us to use night packages why they don't provide us the same calling rate through out the day.?
52. haseebzahid (Posts: 1833; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
well modern thinking of what .............
16. sbr999 (Posts: 79; Member since: 05 Jun 2012)
no it's not. open your eyes, you are slaves for your government
49. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
The nerve of China, they even censor PhoneArena; what's up wit' dat'?
5. yasir-921 (Posts: 79; Member since: 02 Oct 2012)
You have taken Times Of India's news regarding status of telecommunication in Pakistan. First of all, times of India exaggerates every policy which Pakistan makes.
It is not a big deal that Late Night Calls may be banned. It may be a normal practice as many times, we have GSM signals stopped for a day or so to avoid unusual activities specially during sensitive events.
Phone Arena always picks news which it considers to be shameful or epidemic for us in the eyes of other. On the other hands, you don't write how people are buying new and new phones here like how SGSIII, One X, Note, iPhones demand are increasing and huge number of people are spending on phones and accessories.
7. Topcat488 (Posts: 1162; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
That sounds like a TAX on booty calls...... Ring, ring, ring.... Yeah,,,hello? Hey, you still up, can i come over? Uhmmmm hello?!?... It's me, was you sleep already, can i come over? (2:30am)
8. beillal (Posts: 2; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
@yasir921 & @ Abdulghafoor I am also from Pakistan and this is in no way a good decision. Those who want to talk at night will still talk. or they will use twitter facebook skype to talk..there r many alternatives. And I mean...come on...against social norms and values???...wat values??
12. ABDULGHAFOOR (Posts: 83; Member since: 04 May 2012)
Those who want to talk at night will still talk but at higher call rates ,but if they have night packages at low cost ,they spend whole of their time in talking instead of sleeping ,and at day time ,they are dull , inactive. and that will be effective measure to help clean up the morals of the country.
15. spideyhead256 (Posts: 148; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)
-_- lol seriously man.that's just highly dull of you to speak in such a stereotypical manner.
21. beillal (Posts: 2; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
So all the call centers with night shifts should be closed becouse their employees will dull, inactive and sleeping at day??? if u dont hav a gf to talk to at night doesnt mean that no one shud talk at night...
23. hypergreatthing (Posts: 33; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)
I really hope no one in your country works the night shift.
It would be immoral for them to do so. Lol.
38. meeaaoon (Posts: 20; Member since: 02 Oct 2012)
Its not about night shift. for night shifter they got plenty of time during day to sleep. This is about students who has to wake early for collages/schools and they don't get required sleep which leads them to dullnes...
25. thunderising (Posts: 225; Member since: 25 Nov 2011)
wow. claps to you. we really can't argue with such thinking. not worth trying
29. pulkit.tyagi (banned) (Posts: 35; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)
what morals r u talking about ? will u care to explain!?
39. meeaaoon (Posts: 20; Member since: 02 Oct 2012)
I think u need to read comment#34 if u can understand.
27. yasir-921 (Posts: 79; Member since: 02 Oct 2012)
thats what I am trying to say, such bans on late night calls will now effect its users. you are right that we have Skype, Whats app, Viber etc.
This is no Big deal!
45. mobilefuture (Posts: 206; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
ummmm, maybe the fact that Pakistan is a muslim country and you're not supposed to have a girlfriend/boyfriend in Islam, and frankly thats the main point of these night packages.
10. qudrat (Posts: 3; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
It's good decision from gov't of Pakistan because .....
11. shandesilva (Posts: 73; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
this is against democracy. i m also from the region. some of these laws are too harsh. people should be allowed to call anybody anyway they wish, as long as its not bothering the recipient.
14. jbitounis (Posts: 54; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
Borat sends his kind regards to the Pakistanian government.
17. aquadust (Posts: 18; Member since: 13 Sep 2012)
First world problem in Pakistan :D there you go... and what about blocking night calls completely? that would incredibly increase social norms and morals.
20. Rehankhan (Posts: 323; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
i am from pakistan and i would say where you see it from where you're sitting
Is probably 110% different
24. Thephonegeek (Posts: 118; Member since: 22 Nov 2012)
Hahahahahaha. Good Government. Every country should have one. LMFAO.
30. Bfrenz (Posts: 106; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)
Stupid govt,first, it looked weird, now....guys cant stop laughing..LOL.
31. roscuthiii (Posts: 1843; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
Meh... it's only an issue if the majority of Pakistani people are against this and the government is imposing it anyhow. If the majority is okay with or indifferent towards this policy, then yeah... that's democracy.
No sense in kicking the chair out from under people if they aren't willing to stand up in the first place.
32. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3013; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Man, if you have 'no comment', don't comment at all. Seriously, your comment is redundant!
No offence, but i would really hate to be born there.
I'd really feel claustrophobic.
33. Hamayunkn4 (Posts: 3; Member since: 21 May 2012)
I am from Pakistan I dont use night packages but still i am not against it. It really is cheap. Some of them are as cheap as Rp 1 per hour that approx 0.667 pence.
and the information that sms is filtered didn't gone well and it was taken down before it came into practice. There is also a reason for that the words were taken from internet. English words were taken from the a website and the Interesting point to mention here is that this list (labeled as “NFL’s 1,159 Naughty Words”) was originally prepared in 2005 and words/phrases in it were actually disallowed to be used for personalized jerseys sold by NFL Shop (National Football League shop). :p
34. mobilefuture (Posts: 206; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
Im not going to lash out on PA for this article,because everything stated above is true, what i want to do is lash out on the PA community because you do not understand our culture, our society and our religion. Therefore you do not have the right to say what's right and what's wrong with our country. Yes, our country is in a terrible situation but amongst the numerous flaws in our government this has to be the first proper act they've enforced. But i'll say whatever i want to but you guys will comment like you understand everything. Therefore, BUTT OUT!
36. Hamayunkn4 (Posts: 3; Member since: 21 May 2012)
The telecom sector issued a case against them and u can get more that this to laugh at over here think of 100 sms per day , 5 sims per NICetc but nothing of this actually happened the thing that really happened is that MNP got baned.
40. Android1 (Posts: 59; Member since: 16 Jul 2012)
Oh come on buddies .. I'm also Pakistani... This is politics people can use Skype viber etc.. and these are cheaper than ufone call rates... It's not about social norms... It's all about politics.. btw I never activate any night package :p
41. mobilefuture (Posts: 206; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
@android yes it is all about politics. Elections are coming they have to act "righteous" at some point! :-P
42. Android1 (Posts: 59; Member since: 16 Jul 2012)
Why ufone ? Why not jazz . Warid.. telenor or zong ???
43. mobilefuture (Posts: 206; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
Cuz maybe Ufone has the best packages or attractive commercials :p
46. zohayb (Posts: 11; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Really phone arena times of India? why are your sources so so weird always?
You don't know that for two days no cellular ban is in place for 70% of pakistan
OR how about the fact that you don't post about this?
if you really are going to post about late night packages why not post about something even more important!!!
WHERE DO YOU FIND THESE GUYS WHO POST?
47. fnakhi (Posts: 7; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
I am from Pakistan and it is absolutely shameful that the Telecom watchdog has behaved this way. We are still stuck on 2G here and the government here has been dragging its feet on shifting over to 3G while the world has now moved on 4G and LTE. Its pathetic and lame that they have turned into a religious ministry and not concentrating on the improvement of the telecom sector. Makes me ashamed that these sort of idiots are running the affairs of this country.
48. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
These political manouvers are to please the mulllahs and maulvis who would want to watch Veena Malik late night but not want late night calls for general public :)
54. haseebzahid (Posts: 1833; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
well u dont know a jack they dont do it for anyone else they do everything for themselves night call offers are not bad move else that nothing was good for anyone else
53. haseebzahid (Posts: 1833; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
its only discount offers removed not calling banned people atlest read carefully half of perople writting like they thing calling at night is banned get a break
55. haseebzahid (Posts: 1833; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
now and then after few months PA post saome hidous irrelevent posts like these with no link to the site and soon after it gets removed because of people starting to fight rather comment
57. qudrat (Posts: 3; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
We have no cellular signals from last 9 daysss thanks interior minister .................
most people of Pakistan are leavening far away from their homes & its relatives
i m frm loralai all my family are their in loralai
i m in Karachi didn't know about my family
Frm last 9 day due signal disturbance
58. waqas77 (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)
The Government of Pakistan is thinking that it's nation is immature. They can't decide what is right and what is wrong for them and it's government is helping them which is a bulls**t. People who are talking till late night are not kids right. When they are not kids it means they are educated when they are educated it means they know what is Right and what is Wrong for them. So things are clear. The Government is thinking very limited some people may use it for good thing. For example in 100 people there might be 10 people who are it for good thing so It's a silly and shameful decision by the Government but this thing happens usually here it's normal. I still don't think that what was the need of this on PhoneArena. I am sure they won't let use to live right?
59. haseebzahid (Posts: 1833; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
a part of ur comment is true but yes most people using night packages are kids and teenagers i dont think elders using any of these packages. but u are correct this was pathetic politicle grudge on public or something like that
60. ZeeNasir (Posts: 5; Member since: 25 Nov 2012)
Very Good Decision. Night is for sleep and not for calls, long calls. If one really needs to call then whole day is out there.