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"Make the iPhone 5 ethically" petition gets 40,000 supporters, you can join too

0. phoneArena 01 Feb 2012, 07:35 posted on

Last weeks a huge reporting effort by the NY Times kicked off a very important debate on overseas working conditions, focusing around Apple and quoting several former…

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posted on 04 Feb 2012, 16:09 1

35. tsarbomba (Posts: 16; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)


If you think Apple's reasoning for not assembling in the US is a 20% drop in profits, you better learn more about that precious EPA regulation you preach about. There is more than just EPA regulation.

You address only surface arguments while ignoring actual obstacles to such a thing happening in the US-
You ignore a very relevant point: Would Apple create its own workforce or hire a domestic company to assemble the products. First, what domestic company can do the work? Is there such a company in the US at this time? If Apple had to create its own workforce, they would be slapped with more payroll taxes, more precious health benefits for employees if they chose to offer them, more building and waste regulation, if the place was to be built in California there is all that "green building" crap they would be slapped with, union coddling for the actual construction - which would take years... there is a lot that would decrease profits and not by a simple 20%, but a much, much larger amount. With as many taxes and regulations there are currently, Apple may have very little profit if these devices were to be assembled here.

Just because Apple is the most valuable company does not mean they can afford everything.

Please don't fall for the premise that acting aloof somehow gives one authority and credibility - it doesn't. I think you watch more Fox News than I do to know their talking points. Regardless, The EPA is banning over-the-counter asthma inhalers. They are reviewing a possible ban on lead bullets & banned oil-based paint in 6 states due to phantom health risks. They want to regulate carbon dioxide emissions. They think it is a biological poison. That is all the proof I need that perfectly expresses the excessive and overreaching authoritative grip the EPA has been granted; and should be revoked. Some regulation is necessary, but if the EPA will not be eliminated, its power must be significantly lessened, as well as all other regulatory departments that staunch the growth of our economy.
To have the idea that all companies will kill everyone for profit is fundamentally ludicrous. To have the idea that is always required governmental oversight to correct even the slightest issue is equally ludicrous.

posted on 06 Feb 2012, 10:01

52. remixfa (Posts: 14467; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


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what he said. :)

posted on 01 Feb 2012, 10:41 4

16. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)


While this is suspiciously reminiscent of most companies trying to save money, Apple has been able to excel at leveraging these conditions to help make them go from almost bankrupt to one of the wealthiest companies in the world in just 11 short years. What will it take for people to realize the numerous negative equations that go into this to make such positive profit margins?

Where do I sign?

John B.

posted on 01 Feb 2012, 15:31 2

26. Whateverman (Posts: 3283; Member since: 17 May 2009)


I think this petition should be supported by everyone, no matter what OS you prefer. This isn't Android vs Apple, it's just a bunch of fellow consumers saying, "Hey! You guys need to fix this." Nothing wrong with that, right?

posted on 03 Feb 2012, 08:12 2

32. tsarbomba (Posts: 16; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)


How much of this is the fault of the Chinese Communist government? Why are the always left out of this ranting?

Don't make the mistake of associating profit with greed. Wealth and profit are too often mischaracterized and simple, evil greed at any cost and that is an illogical mistake.

Remember, Foxconn can hire 3,000 people in a day. Thousands of people line up daily to apply for these jobs at Foxconn.

Chinese citizens who criticize the government often go missing. And the Chinese government stepped in to halt the protest suicides at Foxconn? You may want to research that just a bit more.

The minimum wage - as harmful a concept as it is - is the decision of Foxconn and China, not Apple.

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