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Major crime-ridden cities to meet with smartphone manufacturers to get answers on rising phone thefts

Posted: , by Alan F.

Major crime-ridden cities to meet with smartphone manufacturers to get answers on rising phone thefts
In New York and in San Francisco, smartphone theft has become a major problem. From time to time, we pass along the story of a stupid criminal who takes a picture of himself and it ends up helping the cobs nab him. But that happens too infrequently and for the most part, thieves are getting away with the crime. And law enforcement officials in the two cities most affected by this particular crime are blaming the smartphone manufacturers for doing nothing to help solve it. Instead, these officials believe that since companies like Apple and Samsung actually profit from the repurchase of a stolen phone, they have no reason to want to put an end to smartphone robberies.

On June 13th, representatives from smartphone manufacturers like Apple, Motorola, and Samsung will meet with San Francisco's District Attorney George Gascón and New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman in the latter's office. The two law enforcement officials want to know why OEMs have yet to add something to the design of their products that would make it harder for them to steal or less attractive to thieves. Taking a shot at companies like Apple and Samsung, Schneiderman says that these companies need to be "as innovative solving this problem as they have been in designing devices."

During the get together, Gascón and Schneiderman will both call for a way to permanently disable smartphones remotely, removing the incentive for criminals to steal a handset. The FCC and the carriers have come up with a national database using each phone's different IMEI number, but this has not stopped what Gascón calls  "a national epidemic". While smartphone owners can remotely wipe data from a stolen device, that only protects personal information from being misappropriated, not the phone itself.

Last year, 1.6 million Americans were the victim of smartphone theft with the crime representing about half the robberies in San Francisco. In New York, smartphone robberies rose 40% last year from the year before. All across the U.S., the crime cost consumers $30 billion in 2012. Let's hope that someone comes up with a good idea at the meeting.

source: SanFranciscoDA'sOffice via GIGaom
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posted on 05 Jun 2013, 18:54 1

1. Shatter (Posts: 1763; Member since: 29 May 2013)


Apps that do this already exist.

posted on 05 Jun 2013, 22:06 6

13. MyJobSux (Posts: 71; Member since: 01 Apr 2012)


Apps dont permanently disable a device meaning it can no longer be activated on any network or even be usable. Their talking about making a stolen device a brick.

posted on 05 Jun 2013, 19:04 1

2. ilani (Posts: 42; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


Every cell phone provider has the ability to triangulate any phone on their network! why don't THEY help???? THey don't help just because of it being profitable, having customers being forced to buy a second phone!

posted on 05 Jun 2013, 19:08 4

3. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4588; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"Every cell phone provider has the ability to triangulate any phone on their network!"

Yes, but such method is far away from accurate.

posted on 05 Jun 2013, 22:08

14. MyJobSux (Posts: 71; Member since: 01 Apr 2012)


Its as accurate as your GPS is when your using Google Maps, etc on a phone. One issue could be the number of stolen devices in terms of personnel to help locate them.

posted on 06 Jun 2013, 07:17

20. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4588; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"Its as accurate as your GPS is when your using Google Maps."

No.

posted on 05 Jun 2013, 19:12

4. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Look out®

Avast®

posted on 05 Jun 2013, 19:17 2

5. pixelado (Posts: 130; Member since: 16 Feb 2013)


Ah, I remember when our government put an end to phone robbery by blocking the IMEI of reported units...

Oh wait, they didn't, and as a matter of fact, this created a new source of income for those who could change IMEI numbers on stolen/barred devices.

Phones are stolen as usual, but now "serial flashers" get to profit from it too. BTW I don't see anyone blaming Toyota or Nissan for car robbery.

posted on 05 Jun 2013, 19:19 2

6. meowcenary (Posts: 187; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


How about people showing situational awareness? I see people on trains, buses, walking down the street, and in public places without situational awareness. Step one in prevention is to be aware and not make yourself a target. We can triangulate where the phone is (foxhunt) or we can brick a phone. It would not stop a savvy thief bricking or conducting a foxhunt.

Society is beginning to live with CIV/FED GOV and LEOs setting up how we should operate socially. Yes I understand laws are in place to create a civilized society, however with police demanding phone manufactures to create a Tier I security feature. We have given up a piece of responsibility, which is to be aware. It is amazing how the smartphone has made people unaware and socially inept. I am surprised that people are not being awarded the Darwin Award everyday.

posted on 05 Jun 2013, 19:20 1

7. cripton805 (Posts: 907; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)


Are these people really that stupid?

GPS tracking and security of your phone isn't enough? What else can you do? Maybe they should do their job better or actually give a crap if someones stuff gets stolen. All they do is make a report. Obviously, they don't investigate because it would be stupid to spend more than 1k of man hours and investigation for a $300 used phone market value.

Maybe they should do more rounds or something in high populated areas.

posted on 05 Jun 2013, 20:15 1

8. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5632; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


I never had problem with my phone being stolen except i loose it a few times. how bout keep it in your pocket at all times dont listen too it with head phones. Because the theif will see it and snatch it right off from your hands.

posted on 05 Jun 2013, 20:20

9. PAPINYC (limited) (Posts: 2044; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


I've never had my phone swiped but, unfortunately, I have "lost" it a few times wwhenever an insurance claim has warranted it "lost".

posted on 05 Jun 2013, 20:35 1

10. ckoch125 (Posts: 166; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


So it is the companies fault there are scumbags out there? Makes perfect sense..... /s

posted on 05 Jun 2013, 21:33

12. GadgetsMcGoo (Posts: 163; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)


Most if not all new cars now have built in gas cutoff and alarms.

posted on 05 Jun 2013, 20:52

11. tacarat (Posts: 87; Member since: 22 Apr 2013)


Maybe the USPS could make a service of returning lost phones COD. The phone's owner is verified by the carrier and it's sent off to them. The fee could be used to bring them closer to meeting expenses. New York and San Francisco are heavy tourist areas. It's probably why the theft rates are so high. Hell, even a lost phone will become "stolen" when it's there. Most folks don't want to admit they were careless.

posted on 05 Jun 2013, 22:45

15. Edmund (Posts: 645; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


That's what phone insurance is for

posted on 05 Jun 2013, 22:54 1

16. rallyguy (Posts: 430; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


So it is a companies fault because the police can't control crime. Do they blame credit card companies for fraud, car companies for auto theft, or bicycle companies for thefts?

Gees all big liberal cities have to do is find a scape goat to blame their crime on and they are not responsible for doing their job.

posted on 06 Jun 2013, 00:18 1

17. DnB925Art (Posts: 106; Member since: 23 May 2013)


Even if a phone gets disabled somehow, it doesn't stop that phone being shipped to another country and being used there. You'd be surprised how many stolen phones end up in other countries and are easily activated there because these blacklisted databases are not shared with other carriers.

posted on 06 Jun 2013, 09:09

22. tomn1ce (Posts: 94; Member since: 12 Mar 2012)


I know what you mean but if they are able to permanently brick the phone may be this wold deter thieves, and that'S a big MAY BE.

posted on 06 Jun 2013, 03:41

18. TruPatriot (Posts: 57; Member since: 27 May 2013)


How about just don't leave your phone laying around? Do these idiots leave their wallets sitting out too?

posted on 06 Jun 2013, 07:11

19. kindlefireowner (Posts: 311; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


Maybe Samsung could develop a common sense feature for there smartphones. The feature won't let you text and drive. Talk loud in public places.

posted on 06 Jun 2013, 08:10

21. threed61 (Posts: 116; Member since: 27 May 2011)


Never mind remote wiping the phone, install a small explosive device and remotely put a thief out of business.

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