LoJack will now recover your Samsung Galaxy S4
0. phoneArena 22 May 2013, 16:35 posted on
You probably have heard of LoJack which is a embedded system used mostly on cars; with the LoJack system hidden somewhere inside the car, it is turned off until you report the car stolen. Once that takes place, a remote signal is sent out which turns on the LoJack system in the car, transmits a silent homing signal, and allows law enforcement to find the vehicle...
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1. kurejikame (Posts: 12; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)
I can see this being useful, but there seems to be a few issues. The first being that even though it would be built into the firmware would flashing a different rom not remove it? The second is that the phone would most likely have to be on for it to work. Lastly, unlike a car, a cellphone is small so it's not as easy to find as a car. If for some reason the criminal did not immediately pull the battery and they got a trace on the signal, they'd still most likely be looking in a general vicinity. Finding a car in a 5 or 10 mile radius is not extremely hard, but a cellphone? Good luck.
2. daddysbeenabadgirl (Posts: 157; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)
I agree. They should come out with some micro chip instead that could be fitted inside the phone somewhere. Im not sure if its possible but it would be more successfull. I disagree about them not being able to narrow the phone down to an individual, with todays tech it should be able to be done.
8. lyndon420 (Posts: 2704; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Because you thought it up makes it totally possible. We are only limited by the limits we place on ourselves. A separate self powered device integrated into the circuitry. For locating the individual, an app on a different phone (or monitoring device) that uses the camera and an augmented reality overlay could be used to help pick them out in a crowd...especially once they start moving the device.
3. tacarat (Posts: 359; Member since: 22 Apr 2013)
They do laptops too. A lot of manufacturers "prep" the hardware so that once lojack is activated, it'll work even if the OS is formatted and reinstalled. If it's done the same, then flashing a ROM won't be enough.
5. _Bone_ (Posts: 2148; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Plus it has a psychological effect. If ANY stolen S4 potentially has special security that needs hours of work to get rid of (and while it is done it can still send a signal), thieves will either reconsider stealing one or learn the level of security the hard way.
4. JojoGo101 (Posts: 211; Member since: 17 Dec 2012)
Value of Galaxies are exceeding my expectations.
Samsung will be the next Apple in no more than a decade.
6. Azure01 (Posts: 127; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
I just use Lookout. My phone gets backed up, I can wipe it, it takes a silent pic from the front cam era of anyone who inputs the password wrong three times, and has that scream feature as well as being able to locate the phone. The only plus I see is the guarantee of reimbursement.
14. hypergreatthing (Posts: 36; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)
So... lets say i hypothetically stole your phone.
And i held down the buttons for recovery, flashed a barebones non stock image.
I'm willing to bet that Lookout is gone. And unless lojack is somehow different it would be gone too.
With most criminals you'd get a pic of them. But there are smart ones out there.
7. ballaonnabudget (Posts: 37; Member since: 15 May 2013)
So you have to pay $30 dollars a year for something that's free on iOS and WP8... I'll pass!
10. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 308; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Well if low jack requires the GPS to be active like any other location tracking apps, then it's definitely not worth the $30 they want to charge. However, if it can remotely activate the GPS when the low jack tracking chip is activated, then that would be any improvement of current location tracking apps. I use to know of an app that can enable GPS on demand so that the device could be tracked, but it no longer exist and I haven't seen one available since that can do that.
11. rcl4444 (Posts: 39; Member since: 06 Oct 2012)
"While other similar services can be removed when you factory reset a phone, LoJack is embedded into the firmware and cannot be removed by criminals or by those tampering with the device..."
Please read the article. Most other services stop working after a 'factory' reset - this includes those on iOS & WP8. Similar services are available for free through the Android Market.
I believe there are a few that can track using the EMEI number (so still work after reset) but they are not free services and primarily used to make your phone inoperable.
Though I agree that a hardware implementation is better, the bottom line with this is that if the phone is on it can be tracked. A phone kept switched off all the time isn't worth much to anyone.
15. hypergreatthing (Posts: 36; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)
Yeah see. This is what i don't get. You can track the EMEI number. But what's to stop someone from tearing down your phone and selling the parts/throwing the cpu board in the trash? Sure they won't get 300$, but they can definately get 200$ + from the lcd/digitizer/battery/keypad/frame/etc? And it would be untraceable.
9. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 308; Member since: 26 May 2011)
As a Note 2 owner, Sammy has finally put something into the s4 to make me envy it. However, still not enough to make the s4 a must have device.
12. rcl4444 (Posts: 39; Member since: 06 Oct 2012)
I agree - the S4 is not really a big leap from the Note2 as the N2 is very good (and better then the S3). However over the S3 I think the S4 is worth the upgrade.
The S4 trumps the S3 on every level - Slimmer, lighter, faster, bigger & better screen in smaller phone, better (latest) hardware. one of the best available graphics chips, better software features, better design (yeah, I know it's not much different, but it IS still a little better than the S3), longer usage times.
Where as the S3 over the S2 didn't offer as much. Same hardware (just in Quad core), thicker, heavier, bigger (by a lot!), Pentile screen (from RGB), more easily breakable.... Sure, it's got bigger HD screen, better software features, quad core and slightly higher clock speed. However now that I've put JB on my old S2 (which my sister uses) it does almost everything my S3 does but without feeling like a brick...and it's as fast or faster at times!
Not saying my S3 isn't good - it is. It just the S3 has a lot of shortcomings vs the S2 that the S4 doesn't have over the S3. It's just a pity about the S4 lack lustre design and build materials.
13. archangel9 (Posts: 231; Member since: 07 Feb 2010)
LoJack is good but Lookout has those same features as well as Ceberus and TrustGo.BTW,on TG all this is free .Lookout great as it is,you have to pay a 29.99 subscription same as LoJack but nonetheless,it great to see that Android has a value for them to put this type of security on it.
17. DnB925Art (Posts: 560; Member since: 23 May 2013)
But LoJack will still work even if a thief wipes the OS and replaces it. Other software will be wiped if the OS is replaced. It's not hard to boot into recovery with the 3 button method and use Odin on a Sammy to flash a stock ROM. But with LoJack, it is embedded in the firmware so it won't be wiped.
16. rallyguy (Posts: 614; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
Its good to still see them around. I'm not aware of of any law enforcement agencies that still put LoJack equipment in their cars.