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Lenovo says there is no U.S. demand for small Windows tablets

0. phoneArena 18 Jul 2014, 13:19 posted on

According to a report published on Friday, an email from Lenovo states that there is no demand in the U.S. for Windows tablets under 10 inches. As a result, the manufacturer will stop selling such items in the states. The Lenovo ThinkPad 8 and the 8.1 inch version of the Lenovo Miix2, are being removed from store shelves in the U.S. Remaining stock will be sent to countries like Brazil, China and Japan, where demand remains for such tablets...

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posted on 18 Jul 2014, 13:33 10

1. LeBrownJames (Posts: 201; Member since: 17 Mar 2014)

Tablets under 10 inches are dominated by android and IOS and that's what Microsoft and Lenovo saw.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 14:21

6. Jinto (Posts: 436; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)

I know but I wouldn't mind a small win tablet, i would use it like a tablet for fun and connect it to my monitor, keyboard, and mouse for work (or serious gaming)

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 16:03

17. Doakie (Posts: 2007; Member since: 06 May 2009)

I don't think they realize it's because Windows on a tablet sucks. I have an Acer laptop with a touch screen and Windows 8.1 and it sucks too. I have a Lumia 521 and it is pretty cool. However everything else touch screen with Windows sucks hard.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 17:11 1

25. medicci37 (Posts: 1276; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)

I'm surprised no PA readers are accusing Lenovo of hating on Windows or trolling yet

posted on 19 Jul 2014, 01:01 1

38. sriuslywtf (Posts: 297; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)

Because not all PA readers are troll sir.

Most of them understood what the article meant.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 13:36

2. engineer-1701d (unregistered)

just no need ms to expensive for basic use.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 13:58 4

3. greatoneiw (Posts: 41; Member since: 08 Apr 2014)

why would i use wp when android is just better ?

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 14:17 3

4. Jinto (Posts: 436; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)

This ain't wp, this is full on win 8.1

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 14:31 3

7. boosook (Posts: 1437; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)

and why would you need full windows on an 8'' tablet?

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 16:27

20. Jinto (Posts: 436; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)

Comment #6

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 16:55

23. pookiewood (Posts: 631; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)

Why not? My Dell Venue 8 pro is my most used device at home. I have a laptop and 2 standard PC's. I'm not using metro apps exclusively either. Different strokes.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 17:07

24. Deaconclgi (Posts: 405; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)

For this reason:http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=efDdh1iOC_8

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 14:35 4

9. elitewolverine (Posts: 5183; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)

When android can run x86 apps, then maybe. Currently any 7+ in windows tablet running 8.1, is just well, better.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 14:57 2

12. ihavenoname (Posts: 1693; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)

X86 desktop app on 7-8" screen w/ most likely low-ish specs for Windows device? Seriously, Android and iOS tablets are better, they have more optimized apps for tablets and apps are higher quality than apps found from Windows store. Also Windows 8 interface is definitely not everyone's favourite.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 17:13

26. Deaconclgi (Posts: 405; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)

Nothing is everyone's favorite.




My Dell Venue 8 Pro disagrees with you and Lenovo.

I would have bought the Lenovo 8 inch tablet but the Venue 8 pro was available and the Miix wasn't at the time. It's all Lenovo's fault. The V8 Pro was and is cheaper in many markets as well compared to the Miix.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 16:07 1

18. Doakie (Posts: 2007; Member since: 06 May 2009)

I highly disagree. Windows when being used for x86 legacy apps is not touch optimized especially for a sub 10 inch touch screen. Its touch points are designed for mouse precision. The whole experience sucks.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 16:43

21. marbovo (Posts: 658; Member since: 16 May 2013)

Android CAN run x86 apps(as every linux), what it can't is run windows apps, those are two completely different things.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 14:51 1

10. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 724; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)

Well, it isn't... :-)

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 14:53

11. sip1995 (Posts: 1575; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)

Why ?

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 14:58

13. ihavenoname (Posts: 1693; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)

Why it would be better?

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 17:21 2

27. sip1995 (Posts: 1575; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)

It's Windows, it can run both programs and apps (+android apps) It's good for work, it has stability and standard updates....

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 15:18 5

16. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)

WP is better than Android so much so Android UI os copying WP.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 16:08

19. Doakie (Posts: 2007; Member since: 06 May 2009)

Derp. That's my only retort.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 14:19 1

5. Totse2k15 (Posts: 458; Member since: 11 Feb 2014)

Weak specs overall, average design, that's why I don't buy Windows tablets. Surface Pro 3 ftmfw though, if I had the money for it. I'd stick with Android tablets for now.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 14:35

8. elitewolverine (Posts: 5183; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)

because android tablets are more powerfull?

Please most don't run two apps, and the tablets that can, are over 600 new.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 15:15

15. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4208; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)

Nexus 7? And in store, most of the non Surface Windows and nicer Android tablets were around the same price when I was looking at laptops last time.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 15:03 5

14. Cyberchum (Posts: 675; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)

I'll take a Windows 8.1 tablet sporting 7.5"-9" with 3GB of RAM over an android L one with same specs.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 18:20

29. Doakie (Posts: 2007; Member since: 06 May 2009)

:-/ The problem comes in that you're comparing Android a platform with over 1,000,000 finger touch optimized apps vs Windows 8 with just a handful of finger touch optimized apps and a ton of legacy apps that are optimized with a mouse pointer sized touch target.....

Android did it right. Instead of starting with a desktop OS and making it more finger friendly like Microsoft was trying to do they made an OS that was finger optimized which has grown up to be used on larger screens.... They're competing on the same battlefield with two totally different ways of doing things.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 20:55 2

35. sip1995 (Posts: 1575; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)

What about Real Programs on and, just to mention it..... you can run Android apps on Windows.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 16:52 1

22. pookiewood (Posts: 631; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)

I love my Dell Venue 8 Pro. The problem is OVERPRICED small tablets.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 20:01 2

31. joey_sfb (Posts: 5744; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

Venue 8 Pro is a netbook with touch screen. I am not buying another netbook again too under powered.

I rather wait and spend the extra dollar for something more powerful. 2GB ram is just right for Android but too little for Windows 8.1

I would wait for an 8GB windows tablet. That's my baseline for a good windows 8.1 experience.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 22:21

36. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)

8GB is what Windows desktops came standard with in 2008.

Windows today, in 2014, needs 16GB minimum. It's just a heavy pig OS.

posted on 19 Jul 2014, 09:02 1

40. zekes (Posts: 229; Member since: 14 Aug 2012)

not true my 2014 hp came with 4 gb of ram even tho i have 8

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 17:43 3

28. Crispin_Gatieza (Posts: 1647; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)

Let's see, Windows 8.1 legacy programs - check. Ability to use EVERY peripheral available on a desktop - check. Full Windows Update support - check.

To say that any Android or iPad is better than a Windows 8.1 tablet is a clear demonstration of total ignorance. Apps cannot, and will not, ever replace desktop programs. Get this through your thick skulls: Android and iOS are MOBILE OSes.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 20:46

34. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)

but on a small tablet , using those legacy apps can be a total pain

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 18:37

30. checkmymike (Posts: 148; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)

Same is true wirh windows phone.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 20:28 1

32. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)

So many amazing things have been demonstrated at Microsoft Worldwide Partner Conference yet the idiots at phone arena choose to highlight crap like this.

Here's a few


If I recall correctly there were no less than 50 articles after google i/o, most of it about useless rubbish aimed at selling google advertising space.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 20:37

33. asphaltpilot (Posts: 14; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)

As phones get bigger, demand for small tablets vanishes. Even Apple said they suspect the iPhone 6 will cannibalize iPad Mini sales. With that said, I have a Dell Venue Pro 8 and it's great. I chose it over the Lenovo Miix 2 because there was an $80 difference. The Venue is $199 on walmart.com. I couldn't resist.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 22:38

37. NateAdam8 (Posts: 388; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)

Good Specs and a 128Gbs of Hard drive and That'd be nice cause I'd like to own a small tablet but not Android cause they're everywhere these days.

posted on 19 Jul 2014, 06:20

39. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1546; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

hmm Dell has not given up selling their 8 inch Windows 8.1 Tablet in the USA nor has Acher and others. Lenovo tablets 8 inch tablets cost more than other tablets. The truth is Desktop x86 legacy Programs on a small screen are harder to see & use than Apps designed for touch screen devices. Microsoft is now in the process of making a special touch screen version of Office for it's Windows 8.1 tablets but it's not ready yet. The Microsoft Surface mini may not come out until it is ready. Microsoft Windows 8 is a tainted OS I think Windows 9 that will arrive next year will be more accepted by People than Windows 8/8.1 has been. It will be designed to boot to the desktop automatically if you do not have a touch screen Monitor. The Windows touch screen apps store will still be available for Desktop enthusiast to use and it is rumored that in Windows 9 you will be able to put a Tile app on the Desktop if you wish to. It is also rumored that microsoft will make a special Desktop version of Windows 9 for desktop lovers. if this is true then Windows 9 will be accepted more than Windows 8/8.1. I think that Microsoft should have the tile interface only used on touch screen tablets and touch screen all in one Desktops but never put on non touch screen Desktops Servers or Laptops. if they had done this when Windows 8 first came out things would have been better off. the current OS is best for Hybrid computers.

posted on 19 Jul 2014, 21:17

41. HildyJ (Posts: 294; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)

First, Lenovo has clarified their comments and stated they would be back in the small Windows tablet market later this year.

As far as Windows on an 8" screen, I find it very usable on my Dell Venue 8 Pro. The one thing the Venue lacks is a Wacom stylus (the Synaptics solution is getting better with driver updates but it's still no Wacom). The 8" Thinkpad and Miix lacked an active digitizer of any sort.

I suspect this is what will be corrected with their new model. Both the Thinkpad Tablet 2 (which I own and which is under powered, hence I upgraded to the Venue) and the Thinkpad 10 have Wacom built in. As a mouse replacement, it solves desktop navigation problems. Accurate handwriting input is also a plus and inking in OneNote or Evernote is perfect for meetings.

A Thinkpad 8 with a Wacom stylus (and Windows ability to tie into corporate networks and security suites) would make it a great business tool. You can slip it in your suit coat to take to meetings or telecommute from home.

If you only need Facebook, Netflix, and Angry Birds, a Windows tablet is probebly overkill. If you want a laptop supplement or even substitute (I go with a tablet and a desktop, myself), Windows tablets might be better for you. If you value portability over screen real estate, an upgraded Thinkpad 8 might be your device.

Sent from my Venue 8 Pro, on my back porch, holding it in one hand and using the other to type and smoke my cigar.

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