Leaked Pantech phone benchmarks show Snapdragon 800 besting Exynos 5 Octa
0. phoneArena 27 May 2013, 08:54 posted on
Just how powerful will Snapdragon 800 be when it lands in our phones and tablets further down the road? If leaked benchmarks for a Pantech IM-A880X device with Qualcomm's fastest chipset are to be believed, it is faster than even Samsung's Exynos 5 Octa, as found on some Galaxy S4 handsets...
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1. hung2900 (Posts: 683; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
There are A LOT of I9500 users (1.6 GHz Octa( have achieved more than 31k Antutu points after the update. Quadrant from 13k - 14k
41. pulkit.tyagi (banned) (Posts: 35; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)
you can not compare a production device to a prototype device . we will have to look at other benchmarks also . intel latest flagship chip clover trail + inside lenovo k900 scores 27500 in antutu inspire of being a dual core ( 4 thread )
but when we look at other benchmarks i.e. quadrant it score just below 6000!
2. abcdefgh (banned) (Posts: 471; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)
wats d difference in s800 and s600
3. _Bone_ (Posts: 1995; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Performance difference? Very hard to say at this point cause AnTuTu includes GPU scores as well and the SD800 setup supposedly sports the new Adreno 330 GPU. With THAT beast included, 30k AnTuTu is not all that impressive, but as said, this leak may be based on prototype or not valid at all. One thing is for sure, Qualcomm, Tegra, Samsung all struggle with heat.
6. kamejoko (Posts: 98; Member since: 10 Nov 2011)
Exynos 5410 overheat by GPU SGX-544MP3 @533MHz. Fail.
7. TylerGrunter (Posts: 757; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
All of them do, Tegra 4 and Qualcomm Snapdragos 600 and over. They have pretty much reached the thermal limit to the power/heat at 28nm.
Now the next step in order to get better performance is to some power budget management as Intel does in some chips.
27. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
So what's the big deal if it overheats ..? Just don't touch that section! So if that bothers you, go use, or buy an S2 or last years device, then you might complain that games and other things will lag. So you're telling me electrical devices don't heat up...?
38. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Thats right, just buy a case, why hell complain, just enjoy the power of V8 engines®
15. yowanvista (Posts: 273; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
S600 is nothing more than a rebranded Snapdragon S4 with very minor changes at the metal layers to achieve higher clock speeds. It has the same APQ8064 markings though it bears the Avenger 2 codename.
S800 uses the new Krait 400 cores with the Adreno 330 GPU.
39. pulkit.tyagi (banned) (Posts: 35; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)
that math does not add up . s4 has a standard clock of 1.5ghz (quad) ,
and s600 in htc one has clock of 1.7ghz approx 15% higher than standard s4 pro. and the best s4 pro antutu score is around 19000 while s600 at 1.7ghz in htc one can score 24600 all day long . If we look at quadrant score
s4 pro @ 1.5ghz = 7600
44. AMDPhenomX4 (Posts: 48; Member since: 06 Apr 2013)
Correct. Snapdragon 600 uses a slightly improved Krait design which is about 15% faster.
48. romeo1 (Posts: 132; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)
My Z does 20651 antutu and 8010 quadrant.
but the s600 is faster just a fact ;)
4. kamejoko (Posts: 98; Member since: 10 Nov 2011)
Exynos @ 1.6GHz = 28544 antutu.
Qualcomm S800 @ 2.3GHz =- 30133 antutu.
What's compare? 700MHz.
8. therealestboy (Posts: 47; Member since: 03 May 2013)
But, but, but Exynos is Octa. The 4 more cores should compensate for the lower frequency.
9. sukimtk (Posts: 13; Member since: 04 May 2013)
aaaaaaaaaaaaa how many time do i have to write this
exyons octa have 4x2 so only 4 cores can wor at the same time
and its quad core not octa :/
11. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
But... But.. Samsung fans tell me a different story... (despite knowing about this fact).
12. hung2900 (Posts: 683; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
Samsung Exynos Octa = a name
You can name any name for a product, but the name does not always tell the characteristics
47. Malique001 (Posts: 58; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Exynos 5410 is basically a dual-quad core chipset if that makes any sense. For performance use, it uses the A-15 cores, for lower power consumption it uses A-7.
10. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
Benchmarks arent important in the first place; efficiency is. But im happy that now Samsung fanboys will have something to cry about and deny, thinking their S4 is the best phone out there. They are behaving worse than iphone fans from 1-2 years ago,
13. shuaibhere (Posts: 684; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
You are behaving worst....
No samsung fan complained about any thing right now...you're looking like troll now....
17. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
Im just telling the truth. A bitter pill to swallow for some. Im not bothered by how many greens or reds i get, that is like a decoration to me.
When others behave like that and get away with it, i dont think i should hold back either as long i dont cross the line.
19. Topcat488 (Posts: 973; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
No, no, you really do make yourself look stupid, when you learn that Samsung uses BOTH Oxynos and Snapdragon chips.
24. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
Im well aware of that. But in my country we get the Exynos variant.
46. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 147; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Actually you are telling your version of the truth, perhaps shared by others. But it is still just your opinion and nothing more. I agree both fanboys are awful, but I do think there are more Apple fanboys than Samsung fans, who are blinded by their brand. Besides, best phone isn't defined by cpu speed, efficiency alone.
22. a_merryman (Posts: 509; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
Are we looking at the same chart...or did you really shave off ~400 MHz from the Exynos one and add ~200 MHz to the s800......
If you looked, with both of them running at 1958 MHz, the Exynos gets 25684 and the s800 gets 28544.
I mean....you really messed up reading that chart in all sorts of fictitious ways.
26. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3495; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
The chart shows only the Snapdragon 800 scores at different clock speeds. There is no Exynos in the chart, but the Exynos 5 Octa does score about 28,000 in AnTuTu.
31. a_merryman (Posts: 509; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
Oh yes, you are correct, for some reason I thought the bottom one was the Exynos, not really sure why the writers even brought the Exynos up if they aren't going to show a comparative chart. Just say "This is what the s800 gets" in that case.
34. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3495; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
It is kind of misleading, they should have put up the E5O's score for comparison.
25. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
E5410 A15 was clocked at 2.3Ghz Antutu would reach 37000
29. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3495; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Yes, but that would also mean battery life would be abysmal. The fact that Snapdragon can get these higher clock speeds and out perform A15, all while still having very manageable power consumption without big.Little is an achievement beyond what Samsung and ARM can do right now.
It's funny, a year or two ago every was against Qualcomm because they were too weak compared to true ARM Cortex chips, but now it seems like Qualcomm is the best in the business.
30. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
It's still an A9 overclocked to 2.3Ghz.
Just buy a extended 3000Mah slim battery, resolved! Surely it will be expensive!
Custom made vs commercial typical scrap crapdragon, please...
33. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3495; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Krait 400 =/= Cortex A9.
Your solutions are very inconvenient, Troll. What's wrong with Krait 400? It can get higher clock speeds which gives it an advantage against A15 in terms of power, while still using less power than A15.
Show me an A15 processor that can out perform the Snapdragon 800, while maintaining the same power consumption profile. You can't.
More performance + less battery drain = better.
A15 < Krait 400
36. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Berzerk who cares about less performance, power and torque is what power and spec users like us is what we look for. There should be an option like the i7 intel on laptop where you press the Turbo button and no matter what you run or thro to it, it still will run, and open anything in an instance...®
37. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Yes those A9s can reach upto a insane 2.8Ghz, but you can use Samsung's A15 E5450 at 1.8 and achieve the same performance...!
40. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3495; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
But Krait 400 isn't A9. It can run at 2.3 GHz, outperform the E5O, and still use less power. Even if you crank up the Snapdragon 800 to where it uses the same amount of power as a quad core A15 system, it will outperform it by a huge margin. If you underclock a quad A15 system to where is uses the same power as the S800, it will be outclassed even further than what it is now.
No matter how you look at it, Krait 400 is better than A15 in its current state. Snapdragon 800 vs. E5O, the Snapdragon will beat it in every aspect; power consumption, CPU performance, and GPU performance.
A15 is the inferior architecture. But I think we all know when Intel releases it's new line of mobile chips, it will blow everything out of the water.
42. pulkit.tyagi (banned) (Posts: 35; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)
yah but samsung did not do it for a reason ! you can not extrapolate like that and different chips have different thermal limits.
32. shashi.map (Posts: 30; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)
its clocked at 2.1 GHz in the benchmark and it is a prototype , so the final retail unit will squeeze out more performance,,,,,,,jeesh read the full article before commenting.
5. cmatej000 (Posts: 7; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)
I just cant wait to see these phones poping out :)
14. warren24 (Posts: 18; Member since: 02 Apr 2013)
IM series. Its for Korea, only for Korea.
See that Ss and K at the ends of each model number?
They stand for SKTelecom and KoreanTelecom (KT)
Give those hopes up...its another flagship Vega from 'Sky'...probably runs lte-a though,...
20. Topcat488 (Posts: 973; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
This won't be the first time that Samsung caters to its own people, and treat the rest of the world as "Second Class" consumers. Not the First, not the Second and not the Third. :/
16. ckoch125 (Posts: 163; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Pantech isn't joking around. Hope they bring this to all the carriers again in the US, this is looking like it will be a really good phone and another option for those.
18. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 294; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Yes competition is good, especially if Pantech can bring a phone such as this one to the U.S. market at a reduced price versus other high end phones.
23. ajac09 (Posts: 1167; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
woot an whole 10% means samsungs next processor will kill it and then the qualcoms of 2013 will win again by 10%.
28. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Comparing a A15 vs Half A9,A15 S800, and overclocked to 2.3 vs 1.6E5410A15...®
43. pulkit.tyagi (banned) (Posts: 35; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)
come on man stop with the a9 s**t , its a custom qualcomm design!
a15 is chip that was designed by arm to be used in low power micro servers and hence have higher TDP of approx 4 to 8 w(nexus 10 ) but s800 has krait400 which has a much lower TDP of max 2.5 to 4 w max