Leak reaffirms new Samsung tablets to provide 2560x1600 resolution, also Exynos 5 and Snapdragon 800 CPUs
0. phoneArena 27 Jul 2013, 21:06 posted on
A couple new tablets will join the vast Samsung line-up with new silicon and high-resolution displays...
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1. papss (Posts: 2879; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
This is pretty exciting news actually. That means that mass produced SS phones with this hardware is around the corner..
17. abdane (Posts: 469; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
won't be better than the monstrous Ativ Q !
2. PapaSmurf (Posts: 5842; Member since: 14 May 2012)
If the P-600 is the new Nexus 10, I'd rather have a Exynos Octa 5420 over the S800. Exynos is clearly faster in terms of CPU and GPU.
3. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
That's right half baked A9, A15 Snapdragon vs Pure full A15 Exynos 5420 will demolish destroy it even clocked at 2.0Ghz let alone what would happen if clocked at 2.3Ghz.
Wait till next year for Snapdragons A15 S900 till then the E5430 will still destroy it!
6. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
There's a reason why Qualcom is winning though, keep that in mind
9. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Exynos chips are exclusive and dearer than Snapdragon!
You pay for what you get!
Just like Apple that never ever will use Snapdragon commercial typical CPU SOC!
16. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
Apple is doing better with selling their soc's than Samsung is with their exynos......and Qualcomm is definitely doing better than Sammy with their exynos.
And here's the kicker, even Samsung uses the snapdragon series in their flagships (american market).
So you choose which is loosing and which is winning. Its not all about power, Troll and everyone sees that but you
20. rd_nest (Posts: 553; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)
Apple is doing better with selling their soc's than Samsung...
Apple doesn't sell SOC. Maybe you should go back to school first.
If you don't know something, don't comment.
Samsung uses many SoC in different markets. They have used TI, Qualcomm, Exynos, Intel in US market. They have used many other SoC like NovaThor in other models. They choose what's the cheapest and most practical. Remember, Samsung mobile have to 'purchase' these chips from Samsung semi. They have to pay whatever others also pay. Exynos is one of the most expensive SOCs around.
25. Shatter (Posts: 1747; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Huawei also makes their own phone chips that they use in their good phones.
35. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
Apple designed their first soc the A4......then they designed the A5, A5x,A6, A6x.......and Samcrap manufactured them for them....and every time they sell an apple product they sell THEIR SOC, which is selling better than Samsung's exynos by the way .....so you go back to school bro
44. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3510; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Apple didn't start designing their own SoCs until just recently with the A6 and A6X. Until last year, they just took Samsung's chips and replaced the GPU.
The A4 was Samsung's Exynos 3 processor with a PowerVR SGX535 instead of the SGX540.
The A5 was an Exynos 4 Dual with a PowerVR SGX543MP2 (MP4 on the A5X) instead of a Mali-400 MP4.
The A6 and A6X actually use Apple's own Swift architecture that they designed themselves, but it's still manufactured by Samsung.
45. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
Yea and I guess apple will never tell you that cause you know how they like to claim everything they have lol
51. ph00ny (Posts: 556; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Qualcomm is winning because no one else designs SoC.
12. TheLolGuy (Posts: 463; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
You shouldn't have to if you want a smooth experience. You should root if you want a different experience, not so you can get a lag-free one...
22. PapaSmurf (Posts: 5842; Member since: 14 May 2012)
No Android flagship from Q4 2012 and later has experienced lag. The "stutter" on the GS4 is due to a buggy build of TW which was updated. S4 Pro, S600 and Exynos 5410 make phones fly.
26. Shatter (Posts: 1747; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Nexus 4 here with a custom rom and calibrated display and its smooth as can be, stock is just as smooth.
31. TheLolGuy (Posts: 463; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
Perhaps, but not the Verizon version of the S4. Knowing Verizon, I wouldn't be surprised if they refused to roll out even a simple update like that.
34. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3510; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Touchwiz on the GS4 didn't lag because it was buggy, it lagged because it was bloated. Samsung packed in so many half baked features that the system couldn't handle it. It still isn't lag free even after the updates, at least on the Snapdragon version.
40. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Not the system the CPU struggled to keep up even at 1.9!
Why blame Android or Samsung...?
41. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3510; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Because it is Samsung's fault. The Optimus G Pro and HTC One have the same CPU but at lower clock speeds (lower clocked GPU as well) and DDR2 memory (compared to DDR3 on the GS4) and run perfectly. The Galaxy S4 Google Edition runs perfectly as well. The problem is Touchwiz; not Android, and not the Snapdragon 600.
46. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Berzerk all the features on the S4 that is exclusive for a weak CPU that Samsung used was a big mistake. The S800 has the power to push all those extra features. Now imagine live wallpapers were active along with 8widgets it would lag even more. What Android or S4 needs is 6 or 8 cores now!
S600 is a weak CPU for a heavy hungry hog resources like Android. It's a full OS. There isn't a single device out there that that has a 4xA15 device? Those A15s will revolutionize mobile industry along with Tegra4. Yes those were designed for tablets but if equipped with 3000 + mah battery I don't see a problem. A15 and Bay trail chips are on par! These are pure raw power SOCs... ®
48. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3510; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Android is not the problem, TROLL. It's Samsung. The Snapdragon 600 is a very capable CPU that can push Android on a 1080p display perfectly, it's just Samsung did a half-ass job at optimizing it and bloated the system with their gimmicky features.
A15 power is NOT NEEDED, all that's needed is optimized software, and then we can have all day battery life and flawless operation of our products. But Samsung took a step backwards and completely messed up the GS4 with bloated software.
11. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Blame those useless Cortex A8 Arm chips
Even the S600 struggles to push Touch wiz on the S4
S800 will be push and run touchwiz smoooothly
19. Arman (Posts: 42; Member since: 08 Jul 2013)
its not S600.. we have exynos version in our country .. and its Awful. samsung gave us one for review.
it takes between 5 to 10 second to open camera app(its not consistent) even after update.. there is so much bug and frame drops.. galaxy S3 had FAR SMOOTHER experience in my opinion.. may be its not a big deal for a non-tech-savy people but for us it doesn't look good..
55. alexzibrit (Posts: 67; Member since: 15 Jan 2013)
Not I got to call you out on this one, My S2 opens the camera app in 2 seconds three is I'm running alot of apps
14. joey_sfb (Posts: 1866; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
And you know it will lag just by reading the short posting at phone arena. Glee!...talk about being bias.
Ok! Samsung where is the high end display 8.0" model and please make it thin bezels this round.
33. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3510; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
The Note 8.0 is pretty high end, all it's missing is a 1080p display, otherwise it's a beast.
7. jove39 (Posts: 1196; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Hope samsung gets Big.little working right this time!!!
13. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
This time the E5420 A7s are clocked at 2.0Ghz instead of 1.2Ghz by Arm which led the octocore kinda fail.
The A15 hopefully will clock at 1.6 or 2.0Ghz. And can be over clocked up to 2.5Ghz....
21. rd_nest (Posts: 553; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)
Please stop this. You know nothing. It has absolutely nothing to do with the clock.
It's more related to how CCI 400 and GTS works. I won'r even going to debate with you. You have absolutely no clue what you talking about.
36. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Really all it is that the S600 is just an overclocked S4Pro by 490Ghz! It's a Apq8064T Apq- application CPU. The eXperia ArcS had this chip. The original had the Apq8064.
S600 isn't a big improvement over the S4Pro.
So now your saying it didn't make a big diffrene over clocking the CPU by 400+ GHz... The S2 to S3 made a big difference in speed. I felt the diffrence. Even over clocking the GPU on Mali400 to 650Mhz, which standard was 400Mhz made playing WildBloid made it much smoother. Riptide made graphics much clearer. I don't no what I'm talking about really... I tweak CPU and mess around with it buy changing voltage settings, increasing voltage on Rooted device. CPU Threshold up, setting CPU governor to performance makes the CPU idle state floating at 1.2Ghz always...
50. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 155; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Yep, you just proved you have no clue. By overclocking, you're just killing your phone. Only a clueless person that doesn't use any heavy app would overclock today's chips. As for the rest on why you have no clue, I expect rd_nest to tell you, since he is the one deserving of ending this discussion.
As for the "tweaks" that you do, I am sure you're following those noob guides all over the interwebz.
52. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
No I'm a power user who prefers faster and super zippy transition and loading time. I don't like buttery smooth operation! I like power like BmwM3 Intel i7 on Turbo mode. You go enjoy your 2.0 litre engine with 150Bhp while i left cruise at 380Bhp with 4.0 engines.
So your telling me you prefer average things in life...
Well what do you expect from average joes..
So you don't like or want to buy
You buy cheap stuffs from primark suits you
29. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3510; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
The A7 cores in the 5420 are clocked at 1.3 GHz, not 2.0.
38. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
You can, those A7 can be over clocked to 2.0Ghz when Rooted!
E5420 A15s are at 1.8
A7s are at 1.3 I assume?
43. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3510; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
At 2.0 GHz, that would completely negate the effect of having those A7 cores, which is to have better battery life.
47. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
These are low powerd A7s not A8 or A9s
These A7s are really battery efficient.
49. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3510; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I understand that, but at 2.0 GHz not even the A7 cores can be efficient enough to be used alongside A15.
10. Hammerfest (Posts: 346; Member since: 12 May 2012)
""In addition, all the Note devices run on Exynos CPUs."""
My US AT&T Galaxy Note (i717, and all the other NON international versions) begs to differ...
Unless your talking about just the new release's, in which case you need to specify next time :P
15. Maxwell.R (Posts: 118; Member since: 20 Sep 2012)
You are indeed correct, and that has been so noted by adding the word "latest" to that sentence, "...all the latest Note..."
27. Shatter (Posts: 1747; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Probably will have a beefier battery to back it up.
28. livyatan (Posts: 499; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
Samsung will have to cut the bezels to minimum on the larger slate.
So I expect an elegant looking device
32. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3510; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Most people actually like moderate bezels on tablets. It makes it easier to hold without touching the display.
30. DKMDROID (Posts: 102; Member since: 09 Aug 2011)
yeah if its going to have the three button layout instead of just on screen buttons then u wouldnt bother with a 12" tab from Samsung