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Latest rumors about the Samsung Galaxy S 4

0. phoneArena 08 Mar 2013, 11:15 posted on

An interesting rumor is circulating about the screen on the Samsung Galaxy S 4 and according to this rumor, the device will carry a floating touch display with the use of a green PHOLED screen; there is also speculation about two different prototypes of the device being prepared with the possibility that both versions will be used...

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posted on 08 Mar 2013, 11:19 17

1. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


I hope it will use LCD. :)

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 11:41 46

6. cR203 (Posts: 183; Member since: 27 Jan 2013)


You gotta be kidding. Do you really think LCD is better looking than Amoled displays? Besides, Amoled display's are a signature feature of the galaxy s phones.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 12:13 11

18. half_21 (Posts: 44; Member since: 16 Nov 2012)


i'm a samsung owner, but i really like the LCD screen used o the iphone..i mean not all LCD IPS displays are the same, juts like how nexus 7 screen looks washed out when compared to that of an iphone's screen...it has good amount of contrast and color which is really pleasing to my eyes....i like it better than my super amoled display...

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 20:00 12

92. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6107; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Are u serious? The iphone doesnt even have a 720p hd screen yet alone a full hd 1080p hd.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 12:28 10

20. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"You gotta be kidding."

No I'm not kidding.

"Do you really think LCD is better looking than Amoled displays?"

Yes, I do! At least for todays OLED stage. Today there is bigger problems with OLED based displays than only how they are looking.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 15:27

63. darkkjedii (Posts: 10053; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


"You gotta be kidding."

No I'm not kidding.

"Do you really think LCD is better looking than Amoled displays?"

Yes, I do! At least for todays OLED stage. Today there is bigger problems with OLED based displays than only how they are looking.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 12:30 30

21. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


HTC One X vs galaxy s3 display...

LCD > amoled....nuff said

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 12:56 19

29. Captain_Doug (Posts: 746; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Not to mention SLCD3 like on the DNA. Amoled can't compete. Maybe once Amoled displays get their burn in issues figured out and stop displaying cartoonish colors.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 13:17 2

42. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Agree.

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 19:02

127. bovcrx (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


I just change my screen mode to stop the cartoon color

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 20:02 7

93. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6107; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Id prefer OLed screen over lcd

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 01:01 1

112. MrKoles (Posts: 291; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)


Then be happy with Z´s sh*t display.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 12:34 8

24. xperiaDROID (Posts: 5042; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


HTC is using LCD displays, for example: Super LCD

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 21:22 1

99. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6107; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Dont forget sony still uses LCD too mobile bravia engine

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 14:01 11

48. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3861; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


The blacks on AMOLED are nice and give you opportunity to save battery, but other than that they aren't anything special. I still prefer the display on the One X to the GS3, and I prefer the screen on my old HTC Amaze to my GS2.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 14:39 7

52. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


HTC One has amazing display. :)

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 17:11 6

73. MrJerry (Posts: 384; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


Hey mate would you please stop?
I know Lcd's advantages and disadvantages compared to Amoled, vice versa.

Please tell me what exactly Lcd is better than Amoled?
True colors? Energy efficiency? Blah blah?
What if i say, i like Amoled' vivid colors than Lcd's boring colors when i play games and take a photo etc.
Can you really say that Im wrong?

Furthermore, you might know that OLED has become the key to success in TVs. Lcd is gone.

If you knew the technologies on both screens, you cannot say Amoled sucks because actually Lcd has no future compared to Amoled.
Yes Amoled still needs a lot to be developed ATM though

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 17:44 3

75. simplyj (Posts: 404; Member since: 23 Dec 2009)


What are you smoking? LCD TVs are still the main selling types of TVs. They barely showed off normal size OLED TVs as CES this year, but they wont be mainstream for at least a couple of years.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 19:19 2

83. MrJerry (Posts: 384; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


I bet they will be in a year

posted on 14 Mar 2013, 13:10

137. bobolicious (Posts: 19; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)


i got my tv 3 or soo years ago and its Led the guy i bought it from said LCD tvs were not being used as much and that Led would be the way to go. I love my led tv and again this was 3 or 3 and half years ago. So i also agree that LCD tvs you dont see much of them anymore.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 17:47 2

76. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"Hey mate would you please stop?"

Stop what?

"Please tell me what exactly Lcd is better than Amoled?"

Ok, here is few examples for you:
1) LCDs can handle more intensive "working load" and won't "Burn-In".
2) LCDs has longer lifespan.
3) LCDs colors are more natural.
4) LCDs provides more clear and sharp images.

"What if i say, i like Amoled' vivid colors than Lcd's boring colors when i play games and take a photo etc.
Can you really say that Im wrong?"

It is your opinion and choice.
And what if I more like LCD based displays than OLED based displays and I say that LCDs provides more natural colours. Can you really say that I'm wrong?

"Furthermore, you might know that OLED has become the key to success in TVs. Lcd is gone."

Agree, maybe in the future but not today, so LCDs still here, not gone!

"If you knew the technologies on both screens, you cannot say Amoled sucks because actually Lcd has no future compared to Amoled."

As I already have mentioned in my comment #51:
I don't say that OLED is bad idea, I even believe that there is a big feature for similar technologies like OLED, but not for today while no one has improved organic compounds which are used in OLEDs.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 19:26 3

85. MrJerry (Posts: 384; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


Please stop copy and paste
You don't really need to refute an every single words, do you?

Look what have you done in here lol

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 00:54 1

111. bipinm (Posts: 122; Member since: 07 Oct 2012)


Everybody is posting their opinions without knowing the actual facts...They just believe what they read from sites...We have been fighting about displays and processors for along time...

Why cant PA write an article about this subject???
Instead of just copying post from other sites...

Anybody agrees with me???

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 17:58 2

77. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"Furthermore, you might know that OLED has become the key to success in TVs. Lcd is gone."

First OLED based TV was made by Sony in 2007 and today is 2013, how much OLED based TVs do you see around??? Did LCD gone???

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 18:16 1

79. Trade_Mark (banned) (Posts: 9; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


True agree, also Oled are expensive.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 19:08 4

82. MrJerry (Posts: 384; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


Go some research bro

LG already released 55" OLED TV in the market even though Samsung and LG both showed us 55" OLED TV prototypes in CES early this year but LG got the first in the market which has just proved that the OLED on the Smartphone will be soon(I reckon within a year) revolutionized

WRGB+Oxide TFT OLED is the key to this future OLED TV competition. LG already made 55" TV with this technology and the others will follow.

OLED has a huge benefits over LCD:
1: Every each pexel can generate the Light:
Much better color reproduction
2: Has 1000 time faster resposiveness than LCD:
Much Much better color reproduction
3: Doesn't need a backlight:
The product can be thinner and easily flexible and much better efficient than LCD

I am not saying LCD is gone in terms of its market
I am saying its gone in terms of its future proof

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 20:43 1

95. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"...which has just proved that the OLED on the Smartphone will be soon..."

There already is a lot of smartphones with OLED based displays in the market.

The fact that product is in the market does not mean that product will 100% succeed! As I have mentioned before first OLED based TV was released and put into marketing in 2007 by Sony, all that was six years ago, today is 2013 and LCDs are still dominating. What that means? That means that not necessarily everything what goes into marketing starts dominate immediately and sometimes does not start to dominate at all! So I disagree with you that LCDs ar gone or that very soon will be gone as you have stated in your comment #73.

"2: Has 1000 time faster resposiveness than LCD:
Much Much better color reproduction"

First of all responsiveness doesn't have anything to do with color reproduction! Second, LCD's already have good responsiveness, humans eye can't see any difference especially on a phone. I think fact that LCD's has longer lifespan and can provide more natural colours in many cases are more importhant thing.
Anyway, I agree with all OLED benefits which you have mentioned, but these benefits are total null while there is no solution for such cons like a short lifespan, unnatural colours and Burn-in effect.

"I am not saying LCD is gone in terms of its market
I am saying its gone in terms of its future proof"

If no one will improved organic compounds in OLEDs, OLED also will be gone in terms of its future proof. And if someone will replace organic compounds with any fully synthetic compounds, OLED will be also gone because after that there won't be letter "O" in abbreviation OLED anymore because "O" stands for word "Organic".

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 21:53 2

104. MrJerry (Posts: 384; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


Long story short

You and I are talking about Apples and Oranges
But you are the one who started saying:
"I like Apples than Oranges"
And I and some other guys said: Oranges are better

We are all becoming silly if we keep discussing this matter since there will not be a strong winner.
But since you started it first, you are the most silly guy here

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 22:45 2

106. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Seems that you don't have arguments ant just starting to insult. SHAME!

Everything I have said about OLED cons is technical FACTS, it is not my opinion or something like that, it is technical FACTS! You can disagree with me if you want, but I just can't understand how you or someone else can disagree with reality (technical FACTS). Maybe it somehow ruins your idyll about OLED and that's why you are in deny with reality...

OLED has short lifespan (even shorter than PDP) - Fact!
OLED colours are not natural - Fact!
OLED tend to get permanent Burn-in effect - Fact!
And it is esential cons of OLED - Fact!

If you don't believe me, go read some tech literature bout OLED and get some knowledge!

"But since you started it first, you are the most silly guy here"

I'm silly because I have said that I prefer LCD over OLED and that I hope that Samsung Galaxy S IV will come with LCD based display? Or maybe I'm silly because I have stated some technical FACTS? How that makes my silly?

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 22:49 2

107. cR203 (Posts: 183; Member since: 27 Jan 2013)


Gosh bro. You been here arguing about display technology all day. Isn't it past your bedtime?

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 23:03 2

108. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


True, now I go to sleep. :)

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 00:22 1

110. MrJerry (Posts: 384; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


No you got me wrong

You are silly because you triggered this bulls**ts which have been discussed many times

You said you liked LCD first and then you stated LCD's pros and Amoled cons all day long~
So my question is, are you sure you just said that
"I just prefer LCD over OLED" ???

Then I respect your opinion but please don't give me all BSs which I already knew and don't make me give you that you already knew.

That's why I replied to you, "Would you stop" first

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 11:26

122. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Then I have a question for you, if you don't want to have any discussion about OLED and LCD, then why are you join this discussion?

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 11:33

124. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


I think always better to have good tech discussion than troll wars, don't you think so? :)

posted on 10 Mar 2013, 03:51 1

130. jamin (Posts: 1; Member since: 10 Mar 2013)


Phonearenauser you are one reasonable guy! I really like your objective method of reasoning. AMOLEDs are nice to look at (deep blacks, saturated colors nice efficiency when not displaying too much of whites). But I think as it stands, LCDs (the IPS kind as used on the iPhone 4/4s and 5) are better in my opinion. They don't have the issue of being less efficient when displaying whites (most websites use the colour white as background colour), have nice contrast, show very natural, truer-to-life colors, have better brightness and are sharper (excluding the super AMOLED plus) than OLEDs. All these are pretty important in our modern day smartphone. But this is my humble opinion tho. Currently using an iPhone 4S and Samsung Galaxy S 3 btw.
~Stop the OS wars!~

posted on 10 Mar 2013, 10:50

133. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Thank you! I agree. :)

+1

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 04:14 1

114. taikucing (unregistered)


IGZO is the best & the future.. sh*t on LCD & OLED display

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 11:49 1

12. gmracer1 (Posts: 646; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)


All screens are LCD-based ;-)

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 12:25 7

19. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Go get some knowledge. ;)

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 12:56 7

28. cR203 (Posts: 183; Member since: 27 Jan 2013)


How bout you go get some knowledge and cut the crap. The s4 will have a Amoled screen.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 13:08 3

34. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"How bout you go get some knowledge and cut the crap."

What crap?

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 13:16 8

41. cR203 (Posts: 183; Member since: 27 Jan 2013)


LCD will never have the appeal of Amoled displays. The colors on amoled displays are better. LCD screens have crappy color reproduction. On my nexus 10 for example, the details and sharpness is great but colors are dead and faded.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 13:20 4

44. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"The colors on amoled displays are better."

The colours on OLED displays are unnatural.

OLED based displays has more essential problems than only unnatural colours.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 13:32 1

46. cR203 (Posts: 183; Member since: 27 Jan 2013)


So think LCD would be better on the s4?

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 14:37 3

51. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


While no one has improved organic compounds which are used in OLED based displays, I say yes, LCD would be better decision. :)

I don't say that OLED is bad idea, I even believe that there is a big feature for similar technologies like OLED, but not for today while no one has improved organic compounds which are used in OLEDs.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 15:03 5

59. saffant (Posts: 208; Member since: 04 Jul 2011)


No it wouldn't. Almost every other manufacturer is using LCDs; Samsung stands out with its AMOLED screens (amongst other things).

If you really need "natural" colours, go buy an IPS desktop monitor. Phones work best with OLED because of the outstanding blacks (LCDs get destroyed by AMOLED's blacks ie my bro's Nexus 4's display is sh*t mainly because of the lacklustre blacks).

Phones aren't the place for photoediting and/or graphic design. Keep that sh*t on your computer.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 15:19 1

60. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"Phones work best with OLED because of the outstanding blacks..."

Can this statement be even more silly? So other phones just doesn't work because don't have real black?

First you say that natural colours are not important on a phone but then you are talking about "outstanding" blacks... Isn't that silly?

And if you have read my comments you should see that I'm talking not about colours!

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 15:25 1

62. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"And if you have read my comments you should see that I'm talking NOT ABOUT COLOURS!"

not only about colours*

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 09:16

117. saffant (Posts: 208; Member since: 04 Jul 2011)


Wow.. You're dumber than I initially thought. On smartphones which basically use a lot of media content blacks and colors that pop are a lot more important than natural so called colors. And that first statement by you just makes me facepalm

posted on 09 Mar 2013, 11:29

123. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"On smartphones which basically use a lot of media content blacks and colors that pop are a lot more important than natural so called colors."

What is it, your It is your subjective opinion?

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 14:52 5

58. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


I remember long time ago I was Googling and found two big forums with vote polls in both forums voted really big number of Samsung Wave (S8500) users and in both polls ~30-40% users was claiming that after 3-4 month they have noticed 'Burn-in' effect. ~30-40% in 3-4 month it is really big numbers in such short time.
And today we can find more and more Google results about 'Burn-in' effect.

In my opinion there is four main OLED based display cons:
1) Really short lifespan (due to organic compounds degradation).
2) Can not handle intensive "working load" and it expressed as 'Burn-In' effect (also due to organic compounds degradation).
3) Colors are not natural.
4) Relatively not so clear and sharp images.

No one still has improve organic compounds which are used in OLEDs and are bigest OLEDs problem. They have improve matrixes and used other "tricks" but hasn't improve main element - organic compounds.

Watch this video an you will understand what I mean by saying more clear and sharp images:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=331MsHlnG5I

Here is example of 'Burn-In' effect on Samsung Galaxy S III (watch in FullHD !):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkfT3PXtIU8

Here is example of 'Burn-In' effect on Samsung Galaxy S (watch in HD !):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEtZ2E7Sgbg

Here is another example of 'Burn-In' effect on Samsung Galaxy S:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdbTuMamqSA

Here is another example of 'Burn-In' effect on Samsung Galaxy S III (watch in HD !):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoYZ1XTsM1I

Smartphone display Burn-in test (LCD vs OLED):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIqqnnb1LBw

You also can find even more and more examples of OLED based screens 'Burn-In' effect just Google or search on YouTube and you will see that it is pretty easy noticeable!

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 15:30

65. darkkjedii (Posts: 10053; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I remember long time ago I was Googling and found two big forums with vote polls in both forums voted really big number of Samsung Wave (S8500) users and in both polls ~30-40% users was claiming that after 3-4 month they have noticed 'Burn-in' effect. ~30-40% in 3-4 month it is really big numbers in such short time.
And today we can find more and more Google results about 'Burn-in' effect.

In my opinion there is four main OLED based display cons:
1) Really short lifespan (due to organic compounds degradation).
2) Can not handle intensive "working load" and it expressed as 'Burn-In' effect (also due to organic compounds degradation).
3) Colors are not natural.
4) Relatively not so clear and sharp images.

No one still has improve organic compounds which are used in OLEDs and are bigest OLEDs problem. They have improve matrixes and used other "tricks" but hasn't improve main element - organic compounds.

Watch this video an you will understand what I mean by saying more clear and sharp images:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=331MsHlnG5I

Here is example of 'Burn-In' effect on Samsung Galaxy S III (watch in FullHD !):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkfT3PXtIU8

Here is example of 'Burn-In' effect on Samsung Galaxy S (watch in HD !):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEtZ2E7Sgbg

Here is another example of 'Burn-In' effect on Samsung Galaxy S:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdbTuMamqSA

Here is another example of 'Burn-In' effect on Samsung Galaxy S III (watch in HD !):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoYZ1XTsM1I

Smartphone display Burn-in test (LCD vs OLED):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIqqnnb1LBw

You also can find even more and more examples of OLED based screens 'Burn-In' effect just Google or search on YouTube and you will see that it is pretty easy noticeable! Man the cut copy paste feature on my iPad 3 works great. Don't you agree BFF?

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 21:21 2

98. phljcnth (Posts: 254; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


Damn dude relaaaax. You've proven your point. I understand that you prefer LCD tech because of this and that. But saying all those things won't change the fact that Samsung Galaxy smartphones sell like pancakes.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 21:49 1

103. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5372; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"But saying all those things won't change the fact that Samsung Galaxy smartphones sell like pancakes."

I don't try to prove opposite, I were talking about OLED and why I prefer LCD. :)

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 14:34 4

49. true1984 (Posts: 582; Member since: 23 May 2012)


I agree. AMOLED does look nice, but the main issue with them is the oversaturation and blue-ish tint. LCD gives more true to life colors, especially the SLCD that HTC uses. In the end I guess its up to someone's personal preference, but if the GS4 has AMOLED, I'll be getting the HTC One.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 14:37 3

50. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 712; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Errr, go inform yourself on colour reproduction because you don't seem to know what it is, if you are saying LCDs are crap. AMOLEDs are great, they look great but the sub-par brightness, blue tint at angles and burn in are kind of deal breakers, i don't doubt AMOLED might be the future but right now IPS LCDs hold the crown.

Also don't come with the "burn in is fake, it doesn't happen" because my sister's galaxy S2 has burn in.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 15:36 6

66. cR203 (Posts: 183; Member since: 27 Jan 2013)


I'm not saying lcd's are crap i'm saying the color they produce are dead. The colors aren't vivid. Amoled displays have cons but they are more of a pleasure to look at. Many people may prefer lcd but i don't and i know i'm not the only person that feels Amoled displays are betters.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 15:28 1

64. darkkjedii (Posts: 10053; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


"How bout you go get some knowledge and cut the crap."

What crap?

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 13:06 7

33. GALAXY-STORM (Posts: 328; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)


Amoled screens are much better choice. No to lcd.

posted on 08 Mar 2013, 13:08 1

35. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


I do prefer LCD sometimes because AMOLED's colors are oversaturated, but i love the deep blacks of AMOLED.

As for the S4 itself, not going expect anything groundbreaking, including the eye tracking with front cam - it is not really practical to me. If i were reasing the last paragraph at the bottom, before im done reading will it flip the page? I have many doubts on how efficient and practical it will be, but i will reserve my judgement until i get to touch the device. However, im not going to buy a single smartphone made by Samsung again, S2 screem broke, S3 screen also broke from a simple knock - thanks to the weak plastic on the bezels.

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