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LG to examine its 2009 eye-tracking patents for infringement by the Samsung Galaxy S 4

0. phoneArena 19 Mar 2013, 08:08 posted on

LG is reportedly planning to examine whether the subsequent Samsung patents on the matter don't infringe on its portfolio, which Samsung, naturally, is said to deny with a passion. There are plenty of other overlaps in our opinion, like the Dual recording mode from the G Pro that we saw materializing as Dual video during the announcement of the Galaxy S 4 last week, so the story is bound to get better...

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posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:12 39

1. mrblah (Posts: 437; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)


All Sambug does is copy everyone else! The S4 will bankrupt them when they produce 100M and only sell like 35M. So long, Sukas!

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:22 32

10. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1345; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


Correction - SCAMsung

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:29 28

13. mrblah (Posts: 437; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)


I also came up with Samdung lol

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 09:32 25

54. _Bone_ (Posts: 2126; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Haha, the Optimus G Pro looks EXACTLY like the Note II, has the EXACT size and battery capacity, similar system sounds and functions, Flip Cover they call Quick Cover :), their copy of S-Beam and S-Voice - Q-Voice :) - and they call out Samsung for copying?

Oh the irony. Samsung could sue to socks off just for "Quick Cover" instead they made a better one.

http://asset0.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2013/03/14/35636592_320x240.jpg

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 11:32 13

66. oister85 (Posts: 397; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


thats what was goin to say. I think lg wants publicity

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 13:55 6

75. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)


LG needs to look at them self first most of their phones are clones of other phones.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 15:33 6

81. KennethP4V (Posts: 33; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)


lmao u dare to bring Sbeam in? Check out android beam. And LG copying samsung with s voice? then y dont u say s voice copied Siri? Die hard samsung's fan

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 20:32

94. a961009 (Posts: 114; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)


This is out of topic but the Q-voice's speech recognition is 100X better than S-Voice. How come copied one can be better than the original one? lmfao..

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 20:41 1

95. tswsabeer (Posts: 16; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


The funny thing is that samsung fans complain about optimus g pro copying note 2. At the same time, they say it's completely okay that galaxy s copied some design elements from ipeople. Lg is not pitting out such a design for the first time. Be equal guys. Still i totally respect the fact that samsung didn't simply ran off to the court like the ipeople did.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:43 23

20. wendygarett (unregistered)


They will sell 100millions, over the 7billions people around the world that is...

Sammy fans now are acting like a groupie bully, keep bashing other and using the sales figures to bash just to make themselves better, and they didn't realise that they are totalled up not even the billions, and the rest of the billions around the world is hating them now... Just like sheeple Apple fans' attitude three years ago...

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:45 11

22. asingha94 (Posts: 288; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)


Ryt bro...lg is much better than lg,innovative... believe me..they are losing because of their poor marketing &slow software updates...other side the copycat is spreading like virus..

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 09:12 12

41. lpratas (Posts: 99; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


Samsung bankrupt? You are stupid or what? Think twice when you write a comment like this! A companie like Samsung which it's a conglomerate of various divisions, that in 2013 is in 2nd place in the ranking of the biggest companies of the world, only with Apple ahead! Some people are stupid, thinking that Samsung it's some s**t of companie.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 09:13 10

42. lpratas (Posts: 99; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


Samsung bankrupt? You are stupid or what? Think twice when you write a comment like this! A companie like Samsung which it's a conglomerate of various divisions, that in 2013 is in 2nd place in the ranking of the biggest companies of the world, only with Apple ahead! Some people are stupid, thinking that Samsung it's some s**t of companie.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 11:58 5

69. SamsungTheSavior (banned) (Posts: 19; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)


You're wrong. Samsung already had the original ideas the whole time, people just copy them. Samsung just takes a little longer to implement the idea so it will work better than the alternatives. The original iPhone actually copied the galaxy S.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 20:55 1

97. tswsabeer (Posts: 16; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


Lol, how funnier can this get. even samsung may not argue like this.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 22:14

98. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


At 600+ they have 400+ markup.
Imaging what happens when that markup is reduced by $100
All others go bankrupt probably :)

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:15 10

2. Note2waitingonNote3 (banned) (Posts: 87; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)


Lg should go back to check why it's Lg Revolution and Lg G2 was the worst smartphones ever. If you have a patent then you should remember it. Why would their be a need to check anything??.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:16 17

3. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


There you go, who's the thief now... Samsung takes other people's ideas and technologies as well, not just LG. Nokia's and Apple's as well. One example was Nokia came up with flexible screens first before Samsung did. But what made them successful is their marketing. I already see lots of people spreading in FB 'the galaxy S4 is octacore!" when it is not. Partly thanks to great marketing by Samsung. Most of the general public dont know how the new Exynos processor works, they only look at the numbers - specs.

Samsung fans starting thumbing down in 3, 2, 1... Oh, wait, it has started.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:18 12

6. Note2waitingonNote3 (banned) (Posts: 87; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)


The Galaxy S4 does have the Exynos 5 Octa processor just not in the states.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:22 13

9. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


It does have 8-cores, but only up to 4 runs at once, so it is still a quad core, because even at maximum performance the processor is also running on only 4 cores.

I would personally prefer the Snapdragon variant of the USA; because of Snapdragon's on board LTE chip.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:48 2

28. umadddd (banned) (Posts: 29; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


"It does have 8 cores"

so it's octa-core

HURR ITS MARKETING DURRRRRR

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:59 5

36. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


But not all 8 cores are running. The performance of the processor is not from all the cores, hence calling it an octacore is misleading itself. It's not. Regardless of how it is being called number of cores is not equivalent to higher performance.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 10:22 6

63. hung2900 (Posts: 793; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)


No. Samsung didn't lie.

You can read the documentation on Samsung website.
There are 3 implementations can be used
- "Quad-core switch": only two different states switching each other, quad-core A7 an quad-core A15
- "Power-house": At the max point, all 8 cores are running. Redundant core can be closed if there is no task needing it.
- "Paired core": Most likely implementation. Each A15 core is paired to an A7 core. The system will decide either to run depending on the task. So We can have A7-A7-A7-A7, A7-A15-A7-A7 to A15-A15-A15-A15. Each core has the independent clockrate,

Samsung said that all of them are available in Exynos Octa, but the implementation used depends on the firmware. Most likely only last one is used in GS4. But The "power-house" option may be available in a new Chromebook, because it is a PC.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 20:45

96. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


i know samsung didnt lie, but it's their method of presenting a product, and the tendency of the general public to look straight at the specs without checking out the details make most people think it is a true octacore processor. We as gadget lovers look into deeper details than the general public.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:47 7

26. umadddd (banned) (Posts: 29; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


look at this nokia fanboy claiming they came up with flexible screens first... just LOL

"The concept of developing a flexible displays was first put forth by Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Company). In the 1974, Nicholas K. Sheridon, a PARC employee, made a major breakthrough in flexible display technology and produced the first flexible e-paper display"

thefutureofthings.com/articles/1000/the-future-of-​electronic-paper.html

nokia fanboys are the biggest nutjobs on this planet

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 09:03 8

38. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


^ I was comparing to Samsung when i mentioned Nokia came up with flexible screens first, because the SUBJECT of the discussion of this topic is on SAMSUNG'S alleged copying of other's idea. The nutjob here is you.

Why would i bring up something off topic like who or which company came up with the first flexible screen? Of course i was referring the the topic, hence i was comparing only between Nokia and Samsung.That flexible display thingy in your link is not even applied on smartphones That is a flexible E paper display, not OLED.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 09:18 6

44. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


seriously everyone knows your a massive android fanboy who loves to dish it out then when someone proves you wrong or show you as the idiot you are (happens everytime btw) you get your fanboy backup as you feel numbers wins not comment substance

second Nokia were talking of flexible screens before samsung yet you and other fanboys give credit to samsung for basically copying an idea from years before no matter who originally came up with it. samsung has a history of copying and rebranding to fit them

face it samsung are no different from apple, incorporate existing features and tech and you praise them as innovators

so yeah your the nutjob

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 09:35 6

55. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


Whatever i say about a company, whether bad or good, im still neutral most of the time, because when i bash or praise something i only use proven facts but 'true' fanboys like you do not accept facts and even try to twist the topic and call others a fanboy just because you are one yourself. You cant accept any negative remarks about your favorite product or brand. It was obvious from the beginning i was comparing only 2 companies as an example. When was the first flexible one invented never mattered, not the topic here.

Samsung's devices are great and the sales volume proves everything, but of course it's not perfect. I dislike the build quality so i went for other brands. For me i prefer to put my money into innovation, not godlike specs. If that smartphone has unique hardware or features not widely found in other products then it gets my attention more, regardless of what company made it, other deciding factors would be things like build quality or whether the manufacturer suck in providing OS updates.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 10:00 2

60. asingha94 (Posts: 288; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)


You are suffering from fever & caught by tha virus "copycat" which is found in samsuck object.be fanboy for a reason.the company is not paying you to suffer from blindness.i like sony lg nokia motorola phones but hate poor samsuck products...cheap plastic..

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:18 9

4. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3011; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


War of the Androids!

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:32 5

15. chunk1x (Posts: 248; Member since: 25 Jun 2011)


Fought by lawyers and fandroids.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:48 8

27. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3011; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Some fans are missing the point here...
Half of them are blind.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 17:09 2

86. cheetah2k (Posts: 813; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)


Do the research people, Samsung have their own hand and eye tracking patents (used in SGS3 and their TV line-up). I would suggest they've done their homework and will be in the clear so as not to repeat another Apple debarkle.

LG are becoming another Apple, struggling and squandering over their own misfortunes in the mobile industry

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:18 15

5. Diego! (Posts: 504; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)


Yeah... watch out with the 'boomerang effect' LG, your 'superphone' LG Optimus G Pro = Samsung Galaxy Note II.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:20 11

7. Note2waitingonNote3 (banned) (Posts: 87; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)


Exactly Lg doesn't want to play with fire. It's copy cat Lg Optimus G pro will never see the light of day.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:23 9

11. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2447; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


Yea right.....Samsung is getting what they deserve

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:28 10

12. Diego! (Posts: 504; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)


And people keep thumbing us down :P Anyway, Samsung should fight fire with fire.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:32 3

14. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2447; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


U dont get it do you? You really think its a coincidence that the optimus g pro jus so happens to be almost an exact copy of the note 2?

Haha all i can say is....karma is a b*tch!

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:38 12

17. umadddd (banned) (Posts: 29; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


xperia z looks exactly like optimus g LOL

oh wait who gives a sh!t? after s4 announcement nobody even gives a f*ck about xz LMAO

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:44 2

21. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2447; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


i didnt say anything about sony so why did you? Sorry if samsungs cover is getting blown.

Now like your name says.......u mad?

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:50 10

29. umadddd (banned) (Posts: 29; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


you seem very mad my friend, perhaps you cannot accept the fact that sony copies just about every LG and Samsung handset ever made? LOL yeahh youu madd brah, go shave that neckbeard of yours, fat ass

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:53 3

32. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2447; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


Lol...your name should be "u funny"

and samsungs should be "icopy"

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:58 8

34. umadddd (banned) (Posts: 29; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


no rebuttals? can't refute? LOL your tears are very delicious, sony shill

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 09:01

37. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2447; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


Lol only women wanna argue...I just tell it like it is son

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 16:31

83. TMach (Posts: 354; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


That has got to be the funniest thing I have read on this blog and the most moronic! Sony copy Samsung and LG?? Ha ha ha The Arc/Arc S, Xperia S, Xperia T are copies of what exactly? Even Apple admitted being inspired by Sony! LMFAO. Keep smoking that s**t dude! Defo not worth arguing with!!

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 11:47 1

67. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


what SONY copies LG and SAMSUNG!!!
Can you please show me is lg and samsung using omni balance design, with “skeleton frame
structure” and opticontras panel?
Did lg or samsung phone have ip rating with 7,9mm thin?

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:46 4

25. dil2abu (Posts: 187; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)


R u blind??
Check ua eyes dude..

Xperia Z is Unique..

Sony designs are Unique.. Others copy from them..

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 10:07 7

62. SleepingOz (unregistered)


http://i.imgur.com/8QadDb4.jpg

"Unique" indeed!
And yeah others copy from them like; notification toggles, right?!

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 14:57 1

79. emadshiny (Posts: 1131; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


you cant deny the uniqueness of Sony designs.
even apple from which your Sammy copies is inspired by Sony and then LG copies Sammy which is a great copycat itself.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/07/27/apple-took-inspiration-from-sony-when-designing-the-iphone/
no one can deny that Sony is the pioneer of great designing.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 19:25

92. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 762; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)


bla3

we consumers just want to use a smartphone

anyway, i might get HTC one or Xpeia Z if the price here in the phil will b lower than galaxy s4..
but even though i myt hold htc one or XZ, i cant help but be amazed with samsung,,
sammy really knows how to make a phone really SMART, so those gimmicks are intended to raise the bar of a phone being SMART, ,
everyone is copying but THE BATTLE IS ABOUT WHO BRING IT FIRST or WHO BRING IT AT ITS BEST FORM AND FUNCTIONALITY

posted on 20 Mar 2013, 05:50 1

102. kobainez (Posts: 302; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


BOO that LG OPTIMUS G copied Xperia GX. The GX came out b4 lg optimus g fyi. LG copied SONY blind samdung fanboy

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:40 2

19. asingha94 (Posts: 288; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)


They should.lg is always underestimated.!lgs technology is much better than samsung though they are very slow in software updates..

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:45 2

23. pwnarena (Posts: 888; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)


not when played right. remember that samsung won against apple because it is viewed as the underdog. if lg plays the underdog role being deprived of sales and the technology it has created, it can win some sympathy. however, it can also lead some samsung customers to other android device makers like htc and sony.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:50 3

30. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 762; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)


is smart stay not an eye-tracking tech?? why not pusue this when s3 came out?

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 09:19 3

45. SellPhones82 (Posts: 502; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)


Yeah, I'm with you there. The S3 had eye-tracking, yet LG did not make note of it then. I also find it funny that LG is launching an update to add some of the features this month. So they applied for a patent 4 years ago and still have yet to launch it on any of their handsets? Another example of the broken patent system. You shouldn't be able to patent an idea until you can provide a fulling working prototype. Having an idea is one thing but actually developing that idea into a fully functional feature is another.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:54

33. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)


Here we go again.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 08:58 2

35. xperiaDROID (Posts: 5404; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


HERE WE GO AGAIN, "War of the Androids" starts right NOW!

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 09:06 4

39. voxmarc (Posts: 299; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)


when S3 came out with smart stay that uses eye tracking technology,,it uses the same principle as smart pause..Lg did not bother to complain...just saying....i guess everyone's feeling the heat......everytime a Samsung flagship device comes out,rumors follow thru..it only add's to the excitement....

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 09:21

47. Azure01 (Posts: 126; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Yes same eye tracking tech but now this is the exact same concept. It shows maturity that they didn't jump the gun until they felt that their concept was 100% copied.

posted on 19 Mar 2013, 19:28

93. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 762; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)


before LG announced the optimus pro
samsung already filed some trademarks for smart pause etc

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