LG hints it is not working on a Nexus 5, done with stock Androids
0. phoneArena 28 May 2013, 03:00 posted on
"The Nexus 4 was a great success despite the production problems for us and Google. However we do not need such a marketing success again." These are the exact words of LG's European VP for mobile during an interview...
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1. WakaFlakaD (Posts: 427; Member since: 30 Apr 2011)
Cool rumor. We will wait for the next announcement of the next Nexus
34. TheBitterTruth (unregistered)
It is the Mystery of the year!
28. NickPeters (Posts: 69; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Somehow... I actually find HTC the right company to produce the next Nexus device. Stop it right there with the fanboyism because it's not the reason why! :)
The only reason I find HTC appropriate for the job is the fact that HTC is going to the exact same way that Google wants it's Nexus products to be:
NO REMOVABLE BATTERY
NO MICRO SD CARD SLOT
NICE UNIBODY DESIGNS
Other than that, any company is welcome to make a Nexus device. I'll be glad to see some new company doing that. Samsung did it twice, HTC and LG once and I'm talking only about smartphones, of course. It'll be nice to see Motorola, for example, to make a new one.
35. TheBitterTruth (unregistered)
Hope so. Lets see.
I think Motorola X will be next Nexus
3. _Bone_ (Posts: 2150; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Haha, look at the staged chattery, so obviously a controlled leak.
I'd LOVE an affordable cameraphone, willing to pay an extra to the Nexus 4 price.
11. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3297; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
There's something really funny about the conversation.
Check out the previous article about the nexus phone and you'll see Vic Gundotra commented similarly all the time, something about the 'insanely good camera' and 'just you wait and see'.
And there's only two of them doing the chatting, always.
21. _Bone_ (Posts: 2150; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Which is promising that these are early ads for an affordable cameraphone. For me phone HW passed the level of performance to care about the extra benchmark scores, it's how they deal with drainage and how good is the camera. The S4 is quite good but OIS, higher MP count for 808-like lossless zooming, low-light performance, there's room for improvement.
4. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Quad Core Intel Nexus 5 with:
2.5ghz quad core baytrail intel cpu with hyperthreading
Intel and google optimized high end amplifier to maximize battery life
Power Vr SGX544MP2 16 core GPU
3Gb DDR3 Ram
FHD Oled display
4000 mah battery
Custom front facing stereo speakers made by Bower & Wilkins
Dual headphone out amplifer made by Texas Insturments
LTE Advanced radio made by Intel
5Mp front facing camera with wide angle lens
16Mp custom back camera made and optimized by Nikon
Android 5.0 with improved x86 support, google apps now native x86
Body made out of reinforced metal with unscratched layer that doesn't degrade
Sapphire Glass covering front
Intel and nexus logo on the back that have glow effect that has color control/effects
Water proof/dust proof design
Price: around $400 unlocked
7. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
The exynos 5 gpu is only 3 cores. a 16 core power vr gpu would be 533% faster than the gpu in the exynos 5.
12. hung2900 (Posts: 900; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
MPx = x cores
Exynos 5410's GPU is PowerVR SGX544MP3
and SGX5xx supports 8 cores in maximum (theorectically), but normally only 4 cores.
"8 cores GPU" advertisement was innitially a scam from Allwinner (A31 SoC), following by Rockchip 3188 and MTK6589. All of them are SGX544MP2
17. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1467; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Rigth for most.
But MTK6589 uses SGX544MP (or MP1 if you prefer).
So as much they can claim 4 cores (SIMDs).
For the record: each SGX544 core has 4 SIMDs
So the Exynos 5410's PowerVR SGX544MP3 would have 12 of them.
9. rahulz (Posts: 117; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
Not likely to happen but why not dreaming right?
16. kvk066 (Posts: 18; Member since: 27 Feb 2013)
why $400?? Why not free for whole family and friends....dude...dreams can come for free....dreams can be unlimited....you have the freedom to dream whatever you want....
18. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1467; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
You don't have a clue of SoCs, do you?
1) Power Vr SGX544MP2 is 2 cores as hung2900 said
2) BayTrail uses Intel Gen 7, not PowerVr (the same they use in Intel HD Graphics 4000/3000/2500)
3) BayTrail most likely won't have hyperthreading as it has already 4 cores.
19. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Silvermont baytrail has no confirmed gpu, the atoms use power vr that is all thats confirmed. You have no clue what your talking about. Silvernont baytrails are based on atom phone cpus but they also have 4 cores they are not based of the desktop chips.
Change is coming later this year you will see headlines everywhere about intel making a15 look like a joke and then the slow death of arm begins. Next stop for intel on phones is 15nm too, arm will be lucky to have mass produced chips on 20nm by the end of 2014. Intel at its current rate will have better battery life than arm on their next series in mobile chips.
24. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1467; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Intel has yet to confirm, but there was a leak about Atoms using Geng 7 quite some time ago. It's everything but officially confirmed:
For the rest: we'll see when it comes. TSMC is supposed to move to 20nm this year alreay. So the lead Intel has may prove itself short.
I have little doubts that Silvermont will be more powerful than A15, but we can confirm that when it comes. Talking abot it now just shows foolishness.
And from Anandtech
What we know about Baytrail is that it will be a quad-core implementation of Silvermont paired with Intel’s own Gen 7 graphics.
22. Meleagru (Posts: 91; Member since: 03 Dec 2012)
It seems possible, except the price. For that money, it will be literally fly off the shelves. And which manufacturer would dare create such a beast of a phone at that price ?
8. rahulz (Posts: 117; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
Yeah nexus 4 was a great success..
i wonder who's making the next nexus? Samsung, HTC,LG they all made nexus devices i think its time for Sony to make one
they deserve a chance...
either way looking forward to see next nexus with android 5.0
pretty sure it will be one of the top devices of the year
10. uchihakurtz (Posts: 323; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
I hope the next Nexus will come from Sony or at least Samsung. The LG name made me hesitant on the Nexus 4... No offence but I've seen people complaining about the build quality :P
14. Klamba92 (Posts: 210; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)
What issues are there with the build quality, because I have one and have come across none so far? Also I think Sony or Motorola deserve a chance as both companies have been sticking to Google's design language with the on screen keys etc!
20. uchihakurtz (Posts: 323; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
There a few "unlucky" people that got a faulty one according to this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?
As of other OEMs, I really hope Sony gets the next one, I'd love to see Motorola too but unfortunately they don't have a service center around here thus I'm rooting for Sony or any other OEMs, aside from LG, no offence.
41. TheBitterTruth (unregistered)
You mean Samsung's build quality is better than LG's?
13. shuaibhere (Posts: 1962; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
releasing phones with stock
Android, like Samsung did with the
S4 at Google I/O , has no value for
the company, as it needs to set
itself apart through its own skin
and other means."
Wait....their UI looks very similar to touchwiz...be it now or before the nature UX it looked and felt same...from icons to similarly themed wallpapers....
15. PermanentHiatus (Posts: 267; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)
But anything other than stock Android is a downgrade, LG.
23. BesnikRrustemi (Posts: 44; Member since: 08 Jan 2013)
My wishlist for the next nexus is:
Better Cameras: 8mpx is enough but better low-light shooting,image & video stabilization & 1080p front facing camera
Snapdragon 600 ( s4 pro is fast enough but 600 just for OpenGL ES 3.0 and less power consumption)
32GB storage variant
1080p Super IPS display
I know that the current price cannot cover all these specs but i would pay 100-150$ more for this one
25. papss (unregistered)
To me LG made the best N phone so far. I hope they are reconsidering...also shouldn't someone be working on one already?
26. saenaedewe (Posts: 70; Member since: 01 May 2013)
I think this time NEXUS phone won't be coming only from one certain manufacturer.
This time every flagship phone from each manufacturer could be the NEXUS phone.
All they need to do is just run stock Android on their flagship phone, just like what SAMSUNG did with its 'Galaxy S4' and what will HTC do with its 'ONE' (rumored).
Plus there will be a stock Android Motorola Phone (the X phone)...
It's Just my thoughts... :)
27. tokuzumi (Posts: 679; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)
"However we do not need such a marketing success again" - Said no company ever...
29. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
Thank GOODNESS A X MOTOROLA PHONE. Be buying that baby when it comes available.
30. umlguy (Posts: 11; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)
If LG really wants to "abandon" Nexus in favor of their own "added value UI" I guess I'm done with LG. Sounds like they really want to not just abandon the clean Nexus/Android UI, they are also looking to get in bed with some other OS in general from what I am reading in other articles. I don't think they get it that the public wants fewer OS choices so we can count on apps just working more than a particular brand of hardware. I'm thinking LG will get left in Android's mobile dust if they abandon the platform, and move directly to the dung heap of mobile history.
My opinion and you are welcome to it.
31. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2931; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Actually, of anything LG would set itself apart by offering a stock experience. The only competition for it's phones would be the Nexus series and ones like the S4 Google experience.
I had a thought the other day that makes more and more sense as I think about it. Why don't these companies just make a few models of phones, like low, mid, & flagship range, and leave the software blank. Then when you order your phone, you simply select the OS you want (Android, WP, BB, Tiezen, etc.). More like the current PC market. I didn't mention iOS since they would never consider something like this, but for all the others, it would streamline manufacturing, put the OS's on even ground for comparison, and make consumer choice much simpler. It's similar to the rumors about the X phone from a few months back, but instead of a "build your own smartphone", you could choose between 3 tiers.
32. snowgator (Posts: 3462; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Concerning your thought on LG: I have said for over a year or so exactly that. LG could save money by going stock Android, set itself apart by going stock Android, and support it's device easily. I would be in line.
Your second thought:
Holy Albert Einstein, Batman..... GENIUS!!! I get to pick the hardware I want AND the OS?????
Ahead of your time..... Revolutionary...... No losers in this thought!!!
33. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2931; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
While there will still be issues for some (like the display on this one but the camera on another one, for example) it makes a helluva lot more sense than what we currently have.
The biggest obstacle (IMHO) is the carriers. They love their exclusives (looking at you Verizon). Which means that carriers would be judged on what they offer in terms of network, customer service, and value, not just by the shiny devices they carry.
Updates would also be much simpler. With around 10 main manufacturers total, and 3 phones per, that's 30 phones they'd have to update a year. What I hadn't mentioned in my last comment was manufacturer skins. In some cases they make sense (extra features on S4 for example), so like others have said before me, make it like what Nova and such offer, as a replacement home screen. Streamline the update process while we're at it.
38. papss (unregistered)
That is one crazy idea that I would love to see.
36. lyndon420 (Posts: 3180; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Why can't these OEM's differentiate themselves by just their hardware? Windows is on so many different OEM products, yet Windows always remains the same. Why is this?
39. lyndon420 (Posts: 3180; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Yup give Sony a crack at it. They've supported Android for awhile now and who knows...they could end up with something decent, although personally I hope they don't try to push their experia line into a nexus. I'm not of fan of how Sony is doing their front layouts especially the bottom buttons.
40. techloverNYC (Posts: 601; Member since: 20 Nov 2012)
I think the reason LG is not too motivated on the nexus 5 is because it kill profit. If every phone is priced at nexus 4 price point, these phone companys will make way less profit. Then agaain why cant every phone be priced around $400 (it cost under $200 to produce most phones, deff not worth the $600+ price tag)