sweet i loved playing with my frieneds voyager and i always wished att would getone then again its no tilt like i have now. but its smaller and more compact.
I work with LG employees quite often and all of them tell me that LG (in the US) doesn't release the same phones on multiple carriers unless it is a cheap ass basic one.
I just realized LG has the Rumor for sprint and alltel and the 8600 for VZW and alltel, but I think it was meant that LG doesn't put their high end phones with multiple carriers...
I think we (sprint) should get the LG rumor since Verizon's always copying our phones, why not copy theirs. Although, the LG Voyager doesnt touch the Samsung Instinct we have coming out very soon, but it could still be a great phone to have in case our customers want something else.
for starters, verizon has never copied a sprint phone....its always been the opposite, spirnt copying what verizon had first....and secondly, the reason why no one has sprint and why its in a deficet and is the most unpopular carrier is because they have ugly ass phones, and bad service....if your gonna go cdma then your gonna go verizon....its just how things work....verizon has started everything and sprint has merely tagged along....go to a high school and see how many people have sprint....zero....
^ high school, you dont say?
some facts....sprint has been around much longer than vzw (1995 vs 2000,) and sprint helped pioneer cdma and digital technology. sprint has over 53m subscribers, compared to vzws 65m. vzw has more, yes, but 53m is hardly no one and not too far behind vzw. and as for vzw never 'copying' sprint phones, you might want to check the current lineup for starters. every single phone that sprint and vzw both carry landed on sprint first, except the razr and krzr. sprints normally a good six to eight months ahead of vzw on smartphone releases, as evidenced by the 6900 launching this week for vzw and back in november for sprint.
Just like my mentor said, LEAD, FOLLOW OR GET THE HELL OUT OF MY WAY. ATT & Sprint are doing just that. We were the 1st with the unlimited plan. We got the Voyager. Go ahead and get the Voyager on the other carriers. Web's still way too slow with them. Stick with the best.
I call bs on this, verizon already has a new voyager coming and they still have exclusivity on it, plus its their response to the iphone, so why would they want it on their rivals service? What they likely mean is that lg is putting touch screen phones on other carriers (ie the view, and prolly another prada clone for sprint).
um verizon has been around since atleast 1992 in the form of Cellular One. and while i have vzw a lot of my friends and people i know are on sprint where i live, so verizon doesnt exactly own that market
The reason that sprint phones come out sooner than Verizon's is because they don't test them at all! Sprint has had more programing updates and recalls than another other carrier becuase they push releases too soon. Verizon takes time to test and make sure the phones they release will live up to the expectaions that verizon has set. Plus Sprint has lost over 25 billion dollars last quarter alone! They are going down, their recent unlimited eveything plan is a last ditch effort to save themselves... and I guarentee it won't work.
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Why would they need the LG Voyager, I would think that them getting the Samsung Instinct, would rule out the need for the Voyager
VZW has actually been around longer in the form of other company names ( 360, CellularONe, Alltel ) and yes, Sprint does have a ton of customers for now but with recent company problems, how long will it last? They have the biggest churn rate in the cell industry ( amongst the Big Four ). Even T-Mobile didn't lose as many customers as they did. Read: Over 700,000 customers lost in Q4 2007 alone. As for the phone they release "first", that would be an attribute to VZW's vigorous testing procedure. One case in point: Sprint's Mogul. I absolutely loved that phone but it had problems up the Wazoo. Firmare upgrade after firmware upgrade it needed. HTC had all the bugs worked out by the time the xv6800 was released by VZW ( that's why I have it now ). Now they are releasing the HTC xv6900 ( Touch ). Again, as long as the bugs are worked out I can live with the wait.
The last time I checked Verizon Wireless has 67 Million customers, while Sprint/Nextel combined has 56 Million Customers, and they are losing them fast. I am not saying Verizon is the King, but the last time I checked Sprint store inside a busy mall on a sunday afternoon, one sales rep! I know they are cutting expense, but the way they are doing will only frustrate more customer because they have to wait longer!
Alright I have voyager, it's a cool phone, but trust me I don't think that phone is the best phone ever, so no need to accuse each other of copying. in the near future both Verizon and Sprint and even ATT will be releasing more cool phones, I am sure they will be better than voyager, now days a phone that's half year old is considered OLD!
The reason they lost that money is b/c they wrote of the nextel for good will. They didn't lose that much money based on customers leaving. do some research if you are going to post comments like that.
David The Gom (unregistered)
in original korean text, it said lg is gonna launch another "touch" phone, not "Voyager" itself...
hye, i been with sprint for 4 years and theyre not that great,,i loved the phones they had, but the service wasnt that good, i cant recall how many dropped calls i had, and many places that wasnt covered under the network, my sprint phone would constantly roam, and the evdo was ok well long story short i left sprint for verizon and found out there 10 times better, even the customer service, the evdo and i only had one dropped cal, many wont agree with me i think sprint is still good but they have to improve a lot, to get up there with the big doggs
I had verizon for 2 years and i hate them covrage sucks i had atleast 8 dropcalls a day . verizon is a very rich company and its bc they still your money in wrong ways i allways had problem with my bills and i always got charge for no reason and i had to call them evry month to get my money back i love Sprint and T-mobile .
avg joe (unregistered)
how exactly do you "still" someone's money? is that like the same thing as freezing your assets?
as for tmobile and sprint compared to vzw:
i worked for an indirect agent who sold sprint, t-mobile, and verizon wireless. based on personal experience, i can tell you vzw has the lower churn rate of the three. the only reason i even pitched t-mobile on people was if they had sh*tty credit (back in the days of smart access), no social security #, or travelled internationally extensively. and as for sprint, i only pitched them when all else failed since they had a max deposit of $150. any company that ends up terminating their customers' contracts due to too many calls into the customer care obviously has some serious issues.
Sprint's REV-A is faster than Verizon, Sprint doesn't cap you at 5 gb per month on web like Verizon. Sprints air card doesn't require a voice plan. Sprint had the unlimited plan for over a year in 3 markets for $119.99 and Sprint started CDMA from scratch. Verizon was on TDMA when they were Bell Atlantic. Get your facts straight! Verizon thinks they have the best customer care but from first hand I know they don't. Everyone I've talked to at Verizon care was very arrogant and never helped me. The Voyager is a nice phone but it ranked 3rd in Feb 08 Money Mag page 116 & 117.
I see no point in releasing this phone on AT&T or Sprint unless it gets some major upgrades. Everything I read states the touch interface and browser are bad to say the least. That and with the 2nd gen. iPhone and the Instinct being released in the next 2 or 3 months. I guess Sprint could consider it an upgrade to the Rumor at best. At least it would not be locked down and you could load what ever version of Opera Mini is out at the end of the year.
I love how this turned into a silly argument about whos better. Either way it doesn't matter all I know is in my mall sprint crushes the crap outta vzw every month.
I dont know where you live buddy but verizon has the BEST coverage out of any carrier in the US. Its been tested and proven. nzw actually sued ATT for advertising "fewest dropped calls"...ever notice how you never see that slogan in their commercials anymore? yea thats because its not true and they were facing a fat lawsuit for false advertising. JD power and associated ranked Verizon number 1 for the past few years now.
sprint crushes verizon? how? its cant be in revenue seeing as to how verizon is the most profitable carrier in teh US. its cant be in customer base seeing as to how sprint only has around 54m and verizon has 66m. ohhh i know how you guys crush us...its your churn rate! you guys lose more customers than any other carrier in the UNITED STATES!!! congrats you should be proud to work for such great company (and i use that term very loosely)
Everyone here is fighting for nothing.. First,, The Voyager is NOT an iPhone killer, but the Samsung Instinct for Sprint is, so no idea why there is an argument for anyways.
Apperantly, after others got to translate the Korean article, it’s clear that there was a mistake made in the initial article where it say that Sprint and ATT may see a voyager on their lineup.. When in reality is something along the lines saying that LG will bring other touch screen phones to other carriers.. Still, ATT does not need an iPhone killer, and before the end of the summer they will more likely have a 3G iPhone anyways with some improvements. And Sprint with the Instinct, I won’t be too surprise to see them selling lots of them specially since that phone will for sure be a perfect match against the iPhone not to mention that from the start, the Instinct will support the fastest 3G currently available. And with Sprint making big changes in their Customer Service department, things will start going good finally for them.. If I were ATT, I would never worry about VZW. I know that VZW has the better overall network, but the reason ATT still No1 and will be on that spot for a long time, is because they have way more flexibility then VZW does.. I have noticed that VZW has started to give in on a few things here and there, and that will be good for business, but they are by far the most over priced with the least additional options out in the market when it comes to things like Earlier Nights, Rollover, MyFaves etc etc..
The Voyager is an awesome phone and if in the end I do end up moving back to VZW this summer, I will get me one, or get it for my wife since we are starting to TXT a lot lately and IM,, but the Voyager is just a fancier phone, and not a heavy duty to do against phone like Blackberries, or iPhones..
"Sprints air card doesn't require a voice plan"
Verizon's air card does not require a voice plan either.
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Right, sound like kids. I've been with AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint and Verizon. Currently with Verizon and I love them. Every company has a flaw, none of them is perfect. Some of them just have more flaws, but the problems with customers/editors is that they expect perfection and there is no such thing and there never will be, that's like expecting perfection in the relationship you in, it would make it boring
Just to get this out of the way, Sprint and T-Mobile suck, and AT&T and VZW are tied for first. I doubt any other carrier will get the Voyager. A lot of Lg's phones for Verizon are usually exclusive only to VZW.
To get the $59.99 unlimited air card plan Verizon does require a voice plan and they cap you at 5 gb per month. If you don't have a voice plan with Verizon the unlimited air card plan is $79.99.
Sprint didn't loose customers, IDEN lost them all. The IDEN system was so messed up, boost mobile being the cause. All the shady people using them as "burners" so the cops can't catch them.
just to add a few silly cents into this rediculous arguement (we all know sprint wll be sold off within a few years!), if you knew how to read, you would have read that vzw aircards dont require some voice plan. 59.99 is as high as it goes, and that's the 5gb plan.
sprint may not have as many cust as other carriers but they do have way more buisness accounts. some of the accounts that sprint has are massive and dont plan on going any where. vzw and tmobile are more so for consumers to my understanding.
some guy (unregistered)
based off of the standard for which the cellular market bases its customer service, satisfaction, and loyalty, Verizon is MILES ahead of the other major four carriers, Verizon also has the most postpaid customers who's phones actually say Verizon on them, p0wned
please do not laugh at my highly legitmate and much more helpful previous post....it just shows your immaturity.....and you say that 'every' single phone on verizons network has laready been done by sprint....so lets do a run down:
treo: first 700
intro of the curve: first
treo 750: last
heres a list of all phone that verizon has and sprint does not:
shine flip phone
razr maxx ve
and soon to be gleam and dare
if you consider the facts posted above...verizon copying every single phone....you are sadly mistaken and technologically deprived
so i suggest before you make rash statements you know what your talking about first...
oh and not one student in scottsdale would be caught dead with a sprint phone running on that ugly black and yellow menu system....everyone either has an env, voyager, sidekick, or iphone...sorry :)
verizon is and forever will be better in sprint in every way.
Hhahah number 8 (unregistered)
verizon phones all have the same software so they dont need to test them.
im a verizon sales rep and our aircard DO NOT require a voice pla. the current plans are 39.99 for 50mb or 59.99 for 5gb. the only was the service will be 79.99 is with a one year contract...oh and actually verizon has way more business account inluding federal agencies (fbi, irs and the atf) but you keep thinking that sprint has more...our network is and company overall is geared towards great reception and business, thats why we dont get all of the "cool" phones that come in twenty different colors, thats why we try to defer parents from buying their 16 yr old a blackberry when they have absolutely not need for it. why does verizon make more money than other carriers? its not because our plans are more expensive its because we have more CONTRACTS (very few pre-paid) and more data plans attached to our devices. data is PURE profit for verizon. if im a business man and i need to recieve my email in as many places as possible because its crucial for me to run my business than what network would i choose? the one with the cooler phones, cheaper plans or better over all coverage? ding ding! you got...the one with the better coverage.
Sorry I was misinformed by DSL reports.com I read on there you needed a voice plan to get the $59.99 data plan. I retract my statement. But they still limit your use...
dont trip (unregistered)
VZW has great coverage and speeds that sprint dreams of. VZW takes the time to test a phone and make sure that the consumer doesnt get a piece of creap phone rather thatn sprint and other carriers just throwing un tested equipment to the masses
Sprint's Rev-A is faster? Are you serious. Sprint's broadband service is only at its best when you in the PCS area. Unfortunately, most of Sprint's network is roaming on somebody ELSE'S tower. For that reason, VZW has broadband coverage in more areas. Check Sprint's coverage map if you need proof. Don't even get started on money. Hey, if Verizon has all that money like you say, maybe they can lend some to Sprint ... they lost $29.6 billion in Q4 2007 ( mamma mia!!!!). I don't care who started CDMA, just who's BETTER at it (again, check Sprint's coverage map). You talk about Sprint being the first to unleash those "unlimited" plans. THREE MARKETS? THAT'S IT? You have something that good and release it in THREE markets only? Verizon released their unlimited service NATIONWIDE!!!! As for the customer service, that's EVERYWHERE you go...cell companies, landline companies, hospitals, grocery stores, cable company, ... you name it. You're always gonna run into some moron. To sum things up, if you like Sprint better than VZW, I say, "Whatever floats you boat". But take it from someone who already HAD Sprint ... you are better off with two cups and a string.
this whole thread is like an olympic competition for tards. You all act like what ever you use is the best.....honestly who really cares