LG Nexus phone coming mid-November with wireless charging: rumor
0. phoneArena 05 Oct 2012, 09:18 posted on
We just heard about the first LG Nexus phone hands-on report, and now the device, based on the LG Optimus G, is said to be coming in the middle of November…
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15. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4238; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
LG doesn't really have anything to lose. They already have a pretty bad name in the business for their devices, mainly the software; so if they release a Nexus equal to the Optimus G, that takes away the software problem and could result in more sales, because the only reason I'm not buying the Optimus G is because of the Optimus UI. And the Optimus G is for those people who actually like LG's UI.
I'm on the fence about 4.2 still. I mean, over 50% of Android users are still on 2.3, and not even 2% are on 4.1, why would they release another version?
33. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1478; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
I think it can help the bad name LG has about software updates. Some people will take it knowing that they´ll get the latest updates without having to wait for LG (and getting rid of the LG UI, two in one)
And it will differenciate itself for he Optimus G in:
- Lesser camera module
- No microSD
- Different desing (it claims similar to the Galaxy Nexus)
- No LG UI
So it is feasible at least.
85. jan25 (Posts: 463; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
the Optimus G has non-expandable memory and the 13 megapixel module is going to be limited to certain regions. i think LG has no problem whatsoever having a Google phone overshadowing it's flagship. i believe they are just trying hard to be a reputable company in the business. this might be the phone that attracts a good amount of fan base they need to step up their game.
101. epdm2be (Posts: 359; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
LG would cripple the nexus device as Sams**t did with theirs. E.g. there's no FM radio on the nexus Galaxy while there is an RDS equipped FM-radio on the 'normal' Galaxy. They already crippled the Optimus G by dismissing the SD-card slot and hence create the same resistance as what current potential customers of HTC One devices have. If the One X had an SD-slot I would have gotten it the day it came out. But thanks to HTC's oversight I kept waiting and in the end decided NOT to by ANY new smartphone! Well Done!
Also it is clear to me. NONE of the forthcoming Nexus devices will have microSD-card slots. A major reason NOT to get one.
Probably, as 87. PhoneArenaUser and 97. Berzerk000, siad to encourage cloud usage.Which is useless when you're in an area with slow datarate transmission (GPRS/EDGE). Which is in reality the majority in the world. Because no matter what those thieving telco's propagate, 3G suck for most countries therefore bragging about 4G only makes anti-consumnerism worse.
I for one will not upgrade my current smartphone UNLESS telco's in my country make a SERIOUS effort to obtain 3G nationwide (preferably indoors, thank you!)!
As for ANY new Android devices. Unless they have AT LEAST microSD card-slots wont be interested. In that respect I'm more inclined towards an LG Optimus 4X HD than the Optimus G. But as I said, I'll probably stick with my Nokia 701 which is perfect for now and far more capable in certain aspects than most Android. Not in the least that whenever I install an app it nicely ASKS where it has to be installed and gives me to option to install either on internal storage or SD-card. This option was even in WIndows Pocket PC/Windows Mobile. Why is it so hard to implement this into these new Android devices?
19. shobhit (Posts: 13; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)
I was hoping HTC Nexus phone 5 inch monster :(
53. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
There still may be one. But at the moment it is only rumors.
103. epdm2be (Posts: 359; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
I was hoping for a Nexus with GOOD screen for once (NO Pentile screens please!) AND NO COMPROMISES on the other fronts. Like the removal of FM radio, removal of microSDcard-slots etc...
And I would appreciate it if those f**king manufacturers would be honest and stop quoting big storage numers but quote what storage is actually left for endusers! I mean it's stupid to quote 4GB internal storage when in reality the user only has 1GB usable space left! In my book that's 1GB storage!
20. AustinPaul (Posts: 62; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)
No removable battery? No bueno for me. It's not often I run out on my GS3, but when I do, I like knowing I have a spare battery in my pocket. Peace of mind! :)
91. rallyguy (Posts: 620; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
I think the same way. My Galaxy Nexus goes through several batteries a day. I work 12 to 16 hours a day and carry 3 spare batteries. Any phone I buy has to have a removable battery. This phone sounded great, but I can cross this phone off my list, as well as the HTC Nexus 5 since it appears to be a built in battery also.
116. epdm2be (Posts: 359; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
How do you charge these spare batteries?
Charge them one after another in the phone?
Or do you guys have a standalone spare battery charger?
23. ChafedBanana (Posts: 365; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
Wait, non-removable battery? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is one of the big reasons why I hate the iPhone. I can tolerate the non-expandable storage on my SGN because it's 32GB, but only 16GB on this one? It better launch with 4.2 because if it doesn't, I see no reason to upgrade besides the display because the VZW version may not even come with a quad core.
92. rallyguy (Posts: 620; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
I agree. I was looking forward to buying something other than Samsung, but I guess I'm stuck with them. I wish phone manufacturers would put a large battery in. I spend over $100 in extra batteries and chargers. Put a non-removable 4000mah battery in, charge an extra $50, and I might be interested.
104. epdm2be (Posts: 359; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
For some strange idiotic reason phone manufactures are obsessed by thin devices. While most consumers wouldn't mind sacrificing a few millimeters for extra battery oomph!
Like I said, "they" still don't get it! And hence will keep failing. HTC is in trouble, LG is in trouble, Ericsson already fled the room but the remaining Sony is in trouble. Only Samsung is doing well why...
1) sd-card slot (although Android 4.x is broken AGAIN so it can't utilise it when you also have internal storgare)
- odd when you consider it finally worked (sort of) in Gingerbread. This shows how incompetent Google's dev-team in reality is.
2) removable battery
- probably because these are outsourced by yet another crappy chinese factory and couldn't get delivered in time to get sealed inside the device, prior to their proposed release date. And now production has already underway so they can't turn back now....
I guess we (consumers) just got lucky.
25. OpTiMuS_BlAcK (Posts: 418; Member since: 04 May 2012)
Geeeez guys, these aren't official... yet...
28. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Yeah even the Google Nexus US page erroneously claimed the GNex would launch on Verizon with only 16 GB... and that set off quite a few people until it proved to be a typo.
105. epdm2be (Posts: 359; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
It doesn't matter!
Nexus devices WON'T have microSD-slots. For everybody who considers this a must-have, this is the main reason to stay away from them. In the end it is this kind of manufacturer's (and Google's) arrogance that will eventually destroy the Android market.
It used to be about (some) freedom but today the new Android devices are more restricted then ever. Locked bootloaders, unrootable, no SDcard-slots... hell, you might as well buy some bloody Windows Phone POS! Then you'll have at least some pretty colors :o)
38. The_Innovation (Posts: 599; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
Apple is in some big trouble. They announced their phone and are done with it, but look at all this insane stuff coming out this fall! They'll sell their iPhones no doubt, but Androids are selling just as much like never before. At this rate, Apple will lose this war.
42. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
If Apple tries to fight a war for majority share, yes, they'll lose. If all they're fighting for is to remain competitive and sell their overpriced phones to their loyal fans, they'll never lose.
Leave Apple out of it... these Nexuses are for the rest of us to enjoy.
47. The_Innovation (Posts: 599; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
They'll lose their loyal fans as well.
I used an iPhone for 5 years. Now I'm using a Nexus. If I switch, anybody will.
51. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I disagree. I bet the majority of iPhone users buy because they like Apple and/or the simple user friendly iOS. They're not power users and customizing the outside of the phone is enough for them. And they don't likely post on forums like these!
Apple Maps is much more likely to hurt Apple than shiny new Nexuses.
54. The_Innovation (Posts: 599; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
Because they don't know. If they ever get their hands on a Nexus and understand the difference, they will switch. I'm telling you I did. I used to be stuck on iOS and thought all this widget customization crap was bull. But now I can't not have it.
62. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I don't think they want/need to know. Just because you and I enjoy our widgets and customization doesn't mean it's essential for all. I'm likely to stick with Android for my next phone, but I appreciate that it's not my only option. iOS has its place, as does Android and Windows.
69. The_Innovation (Posts: 599; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
I get what you're saying, but I'm only going off of statistics. Where you use a small population and get and get an understanding of a big one. I showed my Nexus to most of my friends who used iPhones, just like I, and explained the difference, and now they are considering to switch as well. Though I'm not talking about girls, they seem very comfortable with iOS.
Hey, to each his own right?
79. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I wasn't going to bring up the women factor, but I was definitely thinking it. Most of the iPhone users I know personally are female. They don't want to fiddle with the thing too much, they just want it to work. And women are a major (and growing) chunk of smartphone buyers.
106. epdm2be (Posts: 359; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
"insane stuff coming"
Oh really... less features but a bigger screen and faster cpu. Sure some ppl will eat the propaganda but not me! I want a device that gives ME the freedom to with it what I want. And currently that means some stupid old Symbian device!
It allows me to store whatever on phone memory, internal storage or microSD-card. It even ASKS me what I want. I can record ALL my phonecalls. It can keep downloading whatever I'm downloading from the web even when a phone call comes in! I have relatively easy full system access and can hack my device and sideload whatever I want. Have full bleutooth capabilities even syncing. And don't need some frecking cloud. No Google you MAY NOT KNOW WHO MY CONTACTS ARE, FO!
Unlike all the rest where you need hacking to achive even the most trivial thing (e.g. LG Touch LED Notifications).
And since 3G is f**king joke in this stupid country I see no reason the get a 4G monster that sucks the battery juice like a speeding rocket.
FO all of them!
1) garantee to have FULL 3G coverage EVEN WHEN TAKING A DUMP! Yes, in that ROOM too!
2) full call recording. When I'm wiping my ass, I can't take notes like address and/or telephonenos.
3) Micro SD card expansion AND WORKING! Google, buy a book about linux/java and learn to program goddamnit!
4) At LEAST 2 days usage of a PHONE! Without worriying about charging. The only thing I need to worry in my life is getting to the toilet in time when I'm drunk or sick!
5) Multitasking! Freezing my navigation while taking a call is NOT OK. Freezing Skype when I read my email is NOT OK! In fact the only thing that needs to be froozen is the ice in my scotch!
6) NO cloud requirements to actually use the bloody thing. A phone is in essence a phone. You shouldn't need computer networks prior to use it. Put in the sim-card and away you go. It 'might' ask to import SIM-contacts but thats it! In fact I DON'T want clouds I want sunshine! Clouds only bring rain!
110. The_Innovation (Posts: 599; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
1) I have not only full 3G, but 4G coverage, even when taking a dump. Yes in that room.
2) There are dozens of call recording application available with all sorts of looks and rich features.
3) 1 out of 2 Android phones have a Micro SD cards.
4)The more the phone is used, the more battery it eats, it's common sense. Any piece of wireless technology works that way, especially with such rich and advanced features. There is a phone with lots of battery however, like the RAZR HD.
5) Nothing on me froze, ever, and multitasking is excellent.
6) You don't have to use any cloud, or syncing services. You can save your contacts on your phone, or sim card if you'd like and Google won't know anything. It's about convenience. You're not required to do it. But if my phone drops in the ocean and gets lost, I can get a new one, and those same contacts will be available, because they are synced.
I honestly don't even know what you're talking about. Android gives a choice for any kind of user. That's the biggest difference between them and Apple. Big screens, small screens, high end features, medium or low features varying in all price ranges. Also, if you're talking about "trivial" features, more features get added with every release of the software. Again, I don't know what you're saying. It's Apple that, literrally, does the same exact thing as the previous year and calls it the next version of iOS.
Hey man, if you don't like it, don't buy it. Stay with, whatever it is that you use.
111. epdm2be (Posts: 359; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
1) great for you. Unfortunately I don't. My phone keeps switching between 3G and EDGE in the bedroom but luckily remains on 3G in the living room. The odd thing is I live in the middle of a wellknown city in the middle of Europe with a wellknown port. So you'd think that the telco's here would at least cater for the local industries and thus we could profit of this too... 4G is just pipedream.
2) There are indeed dozens of apps 'available' but most DON'T work. There's at the moment only one platform of phones which I can ascertain that every call-recording app that you can buy, actually works (Symbian). I know from experience that Callrecording DOESN'T work on Xperia U, Galaxy Mini II, Galaxy S III, HTC One X/S but DOES work on ZTE Orange and LG optimus 4X HD. That is without hacking, rooting, jailbreaking, sideloading or any of that stuff.
3) You didn't read my post, did you? I KNOW that many Android devices have microSD cards. But in Android 4.x you can't use them to store apps if the phone comes equipped with internal storage too. If you move apps to SD card (from the settings menu) the apps only go to internal storage. You can NOT choose or force it to store the apps on SD-card. The hacks that used to work don't work any more on ICS/JB :-(
4) Instead of making devices ridiculously thin sacrifice a few millimeters for that 2500mAh battery so that the bloody thing has juice for a full 2 days IN ANY circumstance. Can't be THAT hard, can it?
5) yeah on Android, Symbian, Windows Mobile and Blackberry OS... but not on iOS or Windows Phone. And I had a Lumia 800 besides the N8, 701, Xperia U and Galaxy Mini 2
6) I take it you haven't used Windows Phone, have you?
I was not only referring to Android. My issues are more with WP and iOS but indeed some with Android.
And yes I'm willing to stay with whatever I use now. If only Nokia wasn't so keen on pushing that Windows phone crap. Therefore I eventually HAVE to search for a non-symbian replacement to my device. Obviously Android 'seems' the most competent to fullfill my needs. Unfortunately some Android problems DO worry me. The SD-card mess for instance and the fact that one device can while another can't record calls... How am I going to know which device actually CAN e.g. record calls, if the sales-people don't even know themselves? And I can't buy every phone to try out. I already did a couple? (like the mentioned Xperia U) But I'm running out of cash now :-(
In fact you (and other readers now know what i seek in a device. Perhaps a website compiling the FULL details of Android devices might be some help. And I don't mean marketing details.
113. The_Innovation (Posts: 599; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
I'm sure you can find a phone with those specific needs for you. Seems like recording phone conversations is an important factor for you. Windows phone is a bit too young for me to get into. I used an iPhone for 5 years. Up until Android 4.0/4.1 was released, the iPhone was the better phone, for me. Mostly because multitouch was lag free and smooth. That was very important to me, even more so than the features the iPhone lacked compared to Androids. When Jelly Bean was released, not even ICS, that's when I realized that this is it. It is a fully developed OS in every aspect. It has everything I want. For years people would tell me "switch to a Droid it has..." this and has that, but I didn't see enough reason to. Now I did and I made the switch this year. The rival has to win you over by offering what you have, and then topping it, in my case the smooth multitouch interface which arrived with 4.1. You won't just switch just to "try it out" if you're comfortable with something already.
Which is my point with WP. There's no reason for me to even try it, whatsoever. The app store is limited, the hardware is somewhat the same, and the software isn't anything revolutionary, in facts it seems more simple and dulled down.
At the same time, unfortunately it's all about marketing. This entire industry is based on it. Thinner, lighter, faster, etc. Because there are a very few of us who would sacrifice design for a bigger battery, believe it or not. They're targeting everyone, including women, who are more into sexy slim looks. That's why they release high end and mid range phones (Android I mean). RAZRs offer the battery but might lack other things, NEXUS offers the latest software, but other hardware isn't as high. We might see that perfect package one of these days, who knows.
- Android 4.1/4.2 (and upgrading to future OS immediately after release)
- Quad-Core, 1700MHz, Krait, Adreno 320, 2/3GB ram (just to make it future proof)
- 13MP camera
- 3000+ battery
43. Allen3697 (Posts: 86; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)
I just hope it doesn't look ugly like all of LG's other phones
52. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
With rumors of the phone being more rounded than the Optimus G, I expect this to be like the GNex vs. GS2 comparison. It'll be more Google's phone than LG's.
71. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3577; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Your avatar made your comment even better!
83. jan25 (Posts: 463; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
it is said to look very similar to the Galaxy Nexus. works for me.
107. epdm2be (Posts: 359; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
I think the 4x HD looks nice. If the chrome strips where actuall chrome instead of cheap plastic it would have been much better. But alas the only company who doesn't compromise on material is Apple.
If Apple wants aluminum strips then you'll get aluminum strips. While samsung and LG get cheap plastic with aluminum looks. It doesn't necessarily mean that the quality material actually makes for a better phone. There's more than just looks to get a device working.
The problem is that a premuim device needs premium materials. Especially since the prices of suposedly high-end smartphones became AT LEAST 25% more expensive over the last years.
E.g. 2008 Samsung Omnia SGH-i900 450 euro vs. 2012 Samsung Galaxy S 3 599 euro
59. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
well looks like i won't be buying the NEXUS you suck LG for NOT ADDING A SD CARD I was so hoping it would be a SONY NEXUS.
61. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Um, the deletion of SD cards is a Google initiative, not LG. See Nexus S and GNex.
112. epdm2be (Posts: 359; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
unfortunately you end up with far less internal storage than what's usually advertised. Phones with 4GB internal storage have about 1GB actually left for end-users. That's a joke!
In that case a microSDcard is the perfect solution to circumvent this storage problem. Provided you can use that microSD card to actually store apps and not just music. Which was more or less possible on gingerbread but not anymore in ICS/JB.
"the deletion of SD cards is a Google initiative"
...either to enforce cloudstorage or they are incompetent to fix their storage mess programming code.
Funny thing is that ancient Windows Mobile and Pocket PC OS nicely asked where you wanted that app installed. Back then it seemed so simple... weird.
65. CreeDiddy (Posts: 576; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)
Specs are good! I just wished it was Samsung or Asus that manufactured this Nexus. Nothing against LG, but they aren't the Pinnacle of Android handset manufactures that look to put Android on another level. This could indeed backfire as this could under perform their sales numbers.
8GB or 16GB of NAND Flash. Are you kidding?!?!?! The Key Lime Pie takes up at least 3GB-4GB. That leaves you with at most 4GB-5GB or 12GB-13GB available. I believe that has to be a typo without having an SD card slot available. This will diminish sales in a heartbeat. People are going to hang on to their SI's, SII's, Droid's, because of that. People with SIII's aren't available for upgrades.
Wireless charging. Powermat and PALM have been available for quite sometime on these charging techniques. Nothing new here. I thought maybe Wireless Bluetooth Charging would have been more creative given the range of where wall outlet dongle would be placed to charge properly.
This is just a Galaxy Nexus I, with a faster processor, better screen, more RAM. This is like the release of the iPhone 5. Nothing big to write home about, but increased speed.
People will wait for the SIV after hearing this....
68. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)
well said. I am also hoping that we get more than one Nexus and looking at Sammy`s performance I am sure we would have Gnex II
84. jan25 (Posts: 463; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
that's because real innovation is in the software. the giant (yes giant) spec bump is just the icing on the cake.
76. animeware (Posts: 22; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Not buying this phone
1) non-removable battery
2) no Micro SD Card
Android 4.2 I do not think it's that much improvement from Android 4.11 we will wait and see.
86. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Non-removable battery is not a problem for me because in my history I never was in deadly need to change the battery.
If ther will be enough internal space then I also don't feel the need for Micro SD Card slot. For example I have Micro SD Card in one of my phones but I almost never remove it, I usually use Micro USB or Bluetooth to download or upload something into my phone. :)
Talking about Android 4.2, Nexus is kind of proof that you will get and the next Android version.
Talking about Wireless Charging, I don't feel need to use wireless charger at all. I even don't see how it could be more user-friendly, It is almost the same way as you charge using charging dock. Also wireless charging is not good for your health!
108. epdm2be (Posts: 359; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
Sometimes the easiest solution if your device hangs is to pop out the battery. Instead of remembering which 6 fingers and/or toes you need to reset the hung device.
80. epdm2be (Posts: 359; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
"internal storage will NOT be expandable via microSD"
... then you wil NOT get MY money! FU
81. epdm2be (Posts: 359; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
THEY STILL DON'T GET IT!
1) non-removable battery
2) no micro SD card expansion
in the case of LG 3) big mpixels but awfull camera`s
And then they wonder WHY they are all in trouble.
- removable bateery
- microSD card expansion
no wonder why ppl love them...
93. rallyguy (Posts: 620; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
Actually I have read articles that says the Optimus camera is the best on the market right now. Of course there are articles that say otherwise, but it sounds like it is a high end camera.
109. epdm2be (Posts: 359; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
Really... ALL the pics I have seen from that camera look like crap. None of them are sharp, too much noise. In fact most pics I've seen have the quality of an ancient 2mpixel Sony-ericson K550i. They're just so large that you can easily downscale them which will give you a usable 3,5Mpixel image out of the 13Mpixel source.
In fact that is the trick that ALL websites use. Downscale (or in marketing talk: Downsample) images and the quality is good. This works with ANY image. As long as you downscale to an even scale, e.g. 2x or 4x.
Try it. Take a crappy shot, open it in photoshop and reduce size to half it's horizontal and half it's vertical size, you'll see it looks much better now (though it is smaller).
If I want a camera to downscale pics then I'd rather get that Nokia 808 which does the downscaling for me and still give me impecable 5Mpixel images (which are allmost twice as large as an downscaled 13mpixel image). Let alone it's fantastic 8Mpixel images...
In fact LG's usually have th worst camera's of'em all. Together with HTC they have no clue. They get decent enough camera-modules though but they just can't write decent software to utilize them.
I just whish these bloody companies started working together more instead of sueing each other. If LG was smart then they'd ask Nokia or Sony to write the software for the camera. The 5MPixel pics from my low cost Xperia U are MUCH better compared to the preview pics of this LG optimus G.
89. someones4 (Posts: 622; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)
the storage of this phone blows. 8gb? this is a joke.
And don't give me that cloud storage nonsense. I like to store movies and watch them wherever i please.
95. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
16gig uugh.. . . Atleast 32gig Internal please. . .
96. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)
LG make a very good design!!! wish the LG Nexus to be as elegant as it could be!!!
102. mittalmailbox (Posts: 49; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)
Don't like >4.5" display devices. make a 4.3" 1280*720 device with same specs as optimus G. Its gonna kill iPhone 5.
114. s.r.vzwrep (Posts: 2; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)
So i keep hearing arguments about space so here's my suggestion don't buy this one buy one of the 3 other nexus devices that are supposed to come out this year one of them will fit exactly what you are looking for
115. epdm2be (Posts: 359; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
None of the nexus phones will have microSD cards slots.
And some features will also be left out as not to disrupt sales of their own brand-cousins. E.g. The nexus Galaxy lacks an FM Radio while the 'normal' galaxy has an FM radio with RDS build in.
The only (perceived) advantage you 'might' have (now) is faster OS upgrades. But who knows whether Google won't change that policy in the near future.