LG Nexus 5 service manual leaks bringing a treasure trove of information, including specs
0. phoneArena 05 Oct 2013, 21:45 posted on
A draft of the service manual for the LG Nexus 5 has leaked out revealing what could be the legitimate specs for the phone; the manual is made up of 281 pages including a diagram of the phone, which resembles a smaller LG G2 without the buttons on the back. The back of the phone resembles what we saw with that infamous picture taken the day that the KitKat statue was unveiled at the Googleplex...
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26. james004 (Posts: 486; Member since: 15 May 2013)
camera? worry about that 2300 mahs battery. LOL!
Sony and LG both keep special things for themselves.
sony- their 20mp camera.
lg - their 3000 mahs battery.
38. _Bone_ (Posts: 2145; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
True, but the SD800 is a huge improvement in efficiency, , plus the LCD is expected to be lighter on the battery. The G2 has great battery life, although it's capacity is larger but so is it's screen, do a little math and our N4 5hr of browsing and video playback could increase to 9 hours.
46. _Bone_ (Posts: 2145; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Nexus 4 next to Nexus 5, Nexus 4 on the Nexus 5.
As you see they are the exact size with the N5 having less bezels and less rounded corners, on the other hand the screen width is exactly the same (due to the N4 being 5:3) and the extra 0,3" coming in height.
50. papss (unregistered)
Na.. we still should be mainly worried about a sealed battery that is that small. I understand that the s800 is efficient but I have a feeling that is where Google went cheap.
39. _Bone_ (Posts: 2145; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Hm interesting, manual says "8M_OIS_CAMERA"
Hoping for that stabilization!
40. boosook (Posts: 1171; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
Are you sure they do? First of all, both the Z1 and the G2 will cost more or less $300 more. Next, the Sony has 20mp but no OIS, and the OIS can really make the difference in low light, much more than the 20mp sensor. If the 8mp sensor is good, if it really has OIS, it might take very good pictures, as the iphone 5 does with "only" 8mp. So I'd rather get a good 8mp sensor with OIS than a 20mp sensor without OIS. Keep in mind that even the Z1 and Nokia 1020 deliver best results in their 8mp and 5mp modes (respectively). 8mp are enough for 99% of users.
As to the battery, you must consider the external size.
And let me say it again... the price!
81. james004 (Posts: 486; Member since: 15 May 2013)
wait, what the..... "and the OIS can really make the difference in low light"
thats crazy speaking.
stabilization improves low light?
41. _Bone_ (Posts: 2145; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Interesting that there is no reference of the camera sensor, only this "8M OIS". The module was either undecided when the service manual was finalized or maybe there are multiple sensors so it's not named?
The IMX179 of other N5 references with the image stabilization - Dear Lord give us that!
70. ChazzMatt (Posts: 17; Member since: 26 Sep 2013)
8MB hardware-based OIS confirmed in diagrams.
77. underbc (Posts: 22; Member since: 28 Nov 2012)
+ 1 for the camera ..
Nexus phones are almost perfect .. unless the camera that are so meehh.
2. akki20892 (Posts: 3742; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Powerful, smooth, fast, fluid, and of course cheaper in price.
21. ocilfa (Posts: 334; Member since: 03 Aug 2012)
Please forgive me, but...that's what she said.
3. blackice214 (Posts: 164; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)
If this is a reasonable price and its an instant hit
27. Feanor (Posts: 368; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)
Instant hit... but where? Where I live, I never saw a Nexus 4 in my life. Neither a Nexus 10. Only broadly available Nexus device from last year was the Nexus 7. I suspect that in reality there is a correlation between the super cheap prices and the limited availability. Probably Google subsidizes these devices, but in order not to bleed too much money (and maybe not to create bad competition for other Android manufacturers) they keep the numbers low.
When Nexus 4 came out, I thought that these specs with this price made any other phone obsolete, but in the end I was wrong because there was no way to buy a Nexus 4 in most of Europe and I never saw it anywhere. So, in the end there was no competition for other usual flagships. I suspect that it could be that the Nexus 5 could be the same, largely a US affair for Google to adverise Kit Kat... or alternatively, it will be broadly avilablke, but not that heavily subsidized and thus not that cheap.
42. boosook (Posts: 1171; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
I think that Google will slowly extend the availability of their Nexus lineup. Here in Italy we never saw the N4 (officially), but now they've just opened the Devices store and are now selling the new nexus 7, so it's probably just a matter of time...
45. Feanor (Posts: 368; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)
But I wrote already that the Nexus 7 is the only one with broad availability. But I believe that if the Nexus line sees broader availability, then the prices will go up. I don't believe in miracles. Already I have read reports that in some places of the world the Nexus 4 was not that heavily subsidized and thus as expensive as any other flagship.
54. boosook (Posts: 1171; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
Those are places where Google does not sell directly through the Devices store. Italy was one of these. What I'm saying is that with time the Devices store will open in more and more countries, and more and more countries will be able to buy Nexus phones and tablets directly from Google, at Google's price.
64. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
The only reason the nexus 4 launch failed was because LG couldn't meet the demand, hopefully this time it doesn't take over 4 months to fix the supply issues
5. alila2 (Posts: 118; Member since: 01 Nov 2011)
32 GB , my one year wait is over , no complaint on specs just hoped the battery was a little bigger .
24. KParks23 (Posts: 491; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)
U want a bigger battery get a lg g2 its the same damn phone!
32. misiu9091909 (Posts: 5; Member since: 02 Oct 2013)
It's not the same damn phone because LG G2 is not a Nexus, so it will get less frequent updates and also developers might be less interested in it.
34. Reality_Check (Posts: 277; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
No its not the same damn phone. LG G2 won't be getting direct updates from Google :x
51. papss (unregistered)
And the award for the most incorrect comment goes to? It's you.
As others have said it's not the lg g2. As you know, it only share the innards with one another and nothing more.
79. KParks23 (Posts: 491; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)
The g2 beats this pbone in every aspect. Just root the phone and be done
6. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4148; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
In the manual it says it's the exact same size as the Nexus 4.
71. ChazzMatt (Posts: 17; Member since: 26 Sep 2013)
It's actually a hair smaller than the Nexus 4, but why quibble over a couple of mm? :) It's actually about the same size as the 4.65" 720p gen3 Galaxy Nexus -- but with a 4.95" 1080p display and Snapdragon 800.
7. werthedroids (Posts: 60; Member since: 15 Sep 2013)
Sounds like a solid upgrade from my nexus 4. I hope the back material is premium. What I'm REALLY curious about though is Android 4.4 Kit-Kat. This will probably be my favorite smartphone of the year
great_specs_+_stock_Android_+_cheap_unlocked(I hate contracts)=_BEAST
9. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4148; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
If the material is anything similar to that of the new Nexus 7, it will feel very nice and sturdy.
8. datsyuk (Posts: 177; Member since: 11 Jan 2012)
With the manual can anyone confirm Verizon bands?
10. jove39 (Posts: 1385; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Everything is perfectly fine until "...device will be powered by a 2300mAh..." Google really have to be cheapo on battery?
15. bucky (Posts: 1636; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
That's my only concern with this phone. Otherwise looks pretty much perfect
22. puckhead (Posts: 78; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
That's how I feel too. I wanted the same monster size battery that is in the G2
43. boosook (Posts: 1171; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
If you're not scared by the size, then get a G2! ;) I don't think it's the cost of the battery, they simply were searching for a good balance between size, price and features. And IMHO they achieved it.
65. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Google would not put a 2300mah battery of it didn't get decent battery life (higher quality parts can raise power efficiency so battery life can be better/worse than mah would make it seem) your mixing them up with Sony who is notorious for it.
12. Danishs (Posts: 147; Member since: 23 May 2013)
The moto X proves that good hardware/software integration is more important for battery life than the amount of mAh a battery has
14. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
From what i know there is nothing special about Moto X battery life, some other phones with about the same screen and battery size, has better battery life.
56. Danishs (Posts: 147; Member since: 23 May 2013)
Reviews and tests said the Moto x had very good battery life, even lasting around 15 hours
57. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2256; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
One of the forums I'm on puts the battery life between 12 hours on the low end to 24 hours on the high end. Most of those in the middle were also running with BT, GPS, & LTE enabled and getting around 16-18 hours.
The Maxx obviously gets more, on LTE it gets around 32-34 hours, on wifi it gets around 44-48 hours. The longest I saw was 2 days 25 hours with around 4-5 hours of screen time.
Now to compare, my S3 (almost same size screen as X and slightly smaller than the Maxx) is getting anywhere from 7-14 hours depending on my use. The worst part is I'm on wifi 98% of the time.
These are actual real world, day to day use numbers, not a battery rundown test. They're also from around 40 or so people, and while that's a small test sample, it gives you an idea what you should be seeing.
63. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 1409; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
My Moto X regularly got ~5 hours of screen time, and that was leaving everything enabled with a bit of BT streaming and 5 Push email accounts. It even spent 10 hours a day turned on in an area with no WiFi and a poor HSPA signal, and then the rest of the time in an area with mediocre LTE signal. Of course, the Nexus line won't see the kind of optimization the X has, nor will it have the X8 chipset.
13. md227a (Posts: 130; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)
Sounds like a good upgrade from my Galaxy S4..... I'm hoping that Google has been able to optimize the software to allow for better battery life.
66. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
If your s4 is in good condition you can sell it and almost buy 2 of these.
16. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6891; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
I could care less bout a camera i just want the damn phone and see some KITKAT bar running in it
17. irellemot (Posts: 92; Member since: 29 Nov 2012)
Looks greeat, I just dont know why people are complaining about the battery. My HTC one with the same size battery, less efficient chipset, (although smaller screen) lasts me two days of light usage or over one day of heavy use. Especially with improvements to software battery should be fine.
23. puckhead (Posts: 78; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
Battery prob won't be bad obviously. But the 3000mah one that is in the G2 would be awesome. Ppl say that phone can last 2 days. That's a major upgrade.
18. Kitkat_4.4 (Posts: 74; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
Android Police says it's IPS TFT? not LCD? Anyone can tell me how much quality difference will be there between this TFT and IPS's of Nexus 4 ?
20. ocilfa (Posts: 334; Member since: 03 Aug 2012)
TFT is an LCD technology. No need to be alarmed over this.
29. Kitkat_4.4 (Posts: 74; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
Yeah, but there gotta be some difference right. I just need to hear that TFT of nexus 5 will be better when compared to LCD of Nexus 4. If not, what will be difference then?
52. papss (unregistered)
My biggest issue with the no screen that I had was that you could see lines that looked like circuits and the screen was a purple tint when off.
74. Taters (Posts: 3690; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
TFT is LCD. In fact, LCDs have active matrixes. Non TFT are completely dead. IPS is just a marketing term and all LCDs use the same tech. IPS TFT and IPS LCD is the same crap.
25. justsayit (Posts: 255; Member since: 09 May 2013)
don't worry about the screen if the phone is made by LG
screen from LG just simply Awesome
best LCD maker
19. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I really wish they would consider making 5.5. The Note 2 has completly ruined me for smaller screens phones, so it would be nice to see a Note-sized version. Or maybe Samsung will make a Google version Note 3 with note features as apps... Let's hope so!
28. Commentator (Posts: 2614; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
The only way that would work would be if the note features were part of a stock Android "phablet" version of the OS. No Samsung software.
68. Martin_Cooper (Posts: 777; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)
Why would they when phablets barely make 10% of the total high end smartphone market. Nexus is supposed to be cheap, great performance and for everyone. Phablets aint for everyone and they increase the price.