LG Nexus 5 and Nexus 7.7 rumors commence: higher-resolution screens, Google I/O announcement
0. phoneArena 16 Jan 2013, 08:57 posted on
Next Nexus 5 is again claimed to be an LG affair, but come with a 5" Full HD screen (surprise, surprise), the new NVIDIA Tegra 4, 2 GB of RAM, 13 MP camera, as well as 3 MP front-facer, and 8 or 16 GB of storage. The price for the 8 GB versions is said to start off at $299, like the current edition...
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1. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
wow....i think people are waiting on a sony nexus or htc nexus but hey more power to them
8. MeoCao (unregistered)
Nexus is tough nut to crack for OEMs, a lot of conditions are attached like high specs low cost, and GG control the design.
And the benefits of making a Nexus is early access to latest version of Android now is reduced greatly that GG makes those versions available to all OEMs.
Besides Sony is also a very proud company so I don't think they will make a Nexus any time soon.
About HTC its strength is design which GG does not need as GG is very good at design themselves, and HTC does not have deep pocket to make cheap devices for GG, so I don't see HTC will soon make a Nexus either.
9. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
uhhh, partially true but i think if they just say "hey lets chose sony this time" then it wouldnt be that hard to do.....im jus sayin
11. wendygarett (unregistered)
I don't think sony will make nexus, when Xperia z is already has more stock android for us...
that will cannibalize each other...
14. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
it doesnt have to be sony i was jus using them as an example because many people, (including me) would love to have one......but it could be a motorola one too!
Also i know somethings going on with LG so if the choice is to stay with them then i wont tinker with their decision as i feel its for the postive more than a negative reason
16. wendygarett (unregistered)
It would be fun for having sony nexus... But I had fixed myself... Xperia z as my next phone coz that power key button brings my memory of having k810i... And I will never change my mind :)
42. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5563; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
it's the same comparison between the Optimus G and the Nexus 4. i think they compliment each other more than they cannibalize each other.
34. Synack (Posts: 664; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)
I'm sick of this massive phone crap. 5" is TOO DAMN BIG.
53. cheetah2k (Posts: 773; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)
On that note, the Sony Z looks like an attempt at producing a Nexus phone. It has similar lines to the LG N4, - clean buttonless front, clean glass back, exceptional hardware all suited for future versions of Android.
Sony probably couldnt make it for $399 though, so Sony has to sell it themselves.
68. stealthmouse (Posts: 2; Member since: 29 Jan 2013)
The greatest advantage to having a Nexus isn't the early access to Android, as you noted. It's the ability to unbundle oneself from the carriers. The Nexus is priced at about half the retail price of a comparable device (purchased outright), and is unlocked. So a person can get a MTM plan from any carrier, thus reducing monthly costs dramatically. This also eliminates the bloatware and non-customer additions made by carriers, that people then spend hours correcting, and is a major reason to root a phone. With VZW's and others' use of the government to continue a push to make it illegal for citizens to modify phones that they own, or to move to another carrier, again with a phone they own, the advantages of the Nexus are especially relevant.
33. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Sony has tasted blood of "HTC's profit margins on HIGH END Phones" so would not venture into a NEXUS as margins there are pretty low i am sure.
54. cheetah2k (Posts: 773; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)
I agree, Sony cant make a Nexus phone and sell it for $399. Their up coming Z looks like a Nexus phone though, and I reckon thats a good thing.
All Sony need to do now is get with the quick OS updates bandwagon
43. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3952; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Actually, after seeing the final product of the Nexus 4, I wouldn't mind if there wasn't an HTC or Sony Nexus. LG really pulled through on the hardware, and with Google's help on the software, made an amazing product. It's nice to see what LG can do, and they sure did do well. Looking forward to this Nexus 5.
However, I still want a Motorola Nexus. Either LG makes the phone and Motorola makes a 10 inch tablet, or vice versa, and I'll be set.
69. stealthmouse (Posts: 2; Member since: 29 Jan 2013)
If MOT, now with Google at the helm, were to make the new "X" or whatever they end up calling it, with an unlocked bootloader, I would line up to buy it. I love my MOT phone, but I don't like the locked bootloader much. The kernels don't always keep up with the OS changes, as Google seems to be able to put out updates on a regular schedule, then VZW takes months to tweak and approve changes.
70. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3952; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Motorola usually posts unlock keys or sells special developer editions of their devices.
Rumor is the Razr X (that's what I hope they call it), will be sold on Google Play and Verizon, the Google Play version being sold with the bootloader unlocked, and the Verizon version having an optional unlocked bootloader for an extra $15/month.
Verizon is putting themselves way too far into the devices and updates. They need to back off a bit.
2. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1322; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
i think the next logical step for the Small tablets is 8 inches , with increasing screen technology ,they can trim the bezels and still have a big screen in a similar shell (kind of like how SS put a 5.5 inch screen in the note 2 being slightly wider than the previous note)
10. MeoCao (unregistered)
Agree, keep the same size of N7 and add bigger better screen. N7.7 will compete directly with iPad mini so there will be lots of fun.
13. wendygarett (unregistered)
By doing so consumers will accused that android is playing catch up game... Make less bezel as an iPad mini clone...
15. MeoCao (unregistered)
it's doesn't matter, Android is way better than iOS for the tablet to be affected by such accusation. peple will think that GG takes the fight to iPad mini.
18. wendygarett (unregistered)
In average (non-techgeek) users point of view, 7 inch tablets on android (and playbook) did not sell well during 2011 thanks to Steve job's ridiculous speech towards 7inch tablets... In 2012, only nexus 7 and kindle manage to sell well, until then Apple makes iPad mini...
If 2013, Google makes exactly same bezel as iPad mini, average user will misunderstood themselves that, android needs inspiration from Apple to survive...
that will make iPad as leader and android as followers... Did you get a clear picture?
20. MeoCao (unregistered)
You know why N7 do not sell well? N7 is mostly sold through Play Store as GG wants to use N7 to attract people to Play Store. Lacks of wider distribution hurt N7 sales.
Why Apple makes mini? They see the success of Android 7" tablets so they had to react. Selling mini at low price (for Apple) reduces its profit but Apple has no choice.
21. wendygarett (unregistered)
I agree your second paragraph... But what I simply mean is that, android is android and Apple is Apple... If Apple can makes its own mini with lesser bezel, android should make back it's own bezel and attacks Apple that bezel is better on tablets, not following Apple inspiration...
also, keep the aspect ratio as 1280x800 in order to ease developer tho...
24. MeoCao (unregistered)
lol, small bezels is only 1 small detail of design, and that's not Apple's invention either. Overall N7 is very different from mini so there's no problem. N7 form factor is so good (you know that yourself don't you) so I think Google should keep it.
Android is designed to deal with vast array of screen sizes and resolution and all apps have auto scaling features and developers dont't have to worry about that.
39. nerdyking (Posts: 6; Member since: 26 Dec 2012)
well saying sir MeoCao. : ) , I just don't think the rumors which this article said are true though, cause what I've seen with the nexus 4 quantity available... Google seems like they don't trust LG anymore (Nexus 4 might look like it got sold out, just because LG has been delivered a small quantity of Nexus 4 everytime) .. my predictions: Nexus would continue to make Nexus 7v2, Nexus 5 might pop up but maybe this time Samsung would take over, the Super Amoled FHD screen looks quite delicious..
I don't trust rumors anymore, just like the rumor about the Exynos 5 Octo big.LITTLE would use the powerVR 544mp3 GPU couple days ago, it's a blatant lie; powerVR 544mp3 wouldn't even match the Mali T604 performance, why would some company in their right mind do something that backward...
58. MeoCao (unregistered)
Quantity, SS? You know that N10 is made by SS and it has supply problem as well.
Supply issue is GG's fault, not LG's or SS's. GG subsidize the Nexuses to lure people to Play Store and they can't afford to sell many N10 or N4 as they are losing money selling them.
And I don't know why you think SS can do a beter job with Nexus than LG? The experience with GNex and Nexus S was not good while people are very happy with N4.
64. johnkob14 (Posts: 8; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)
How is it not Lg fault about supplies their making the device not google. If it was moto making it then its google's fault. And you know google wasn't making planning on make money off the nexus. Google makes it money off Ads. And at least Samsung had supplies to keep those devices in stock.
65. MeoCao (unregistered)
You know what? there is a thing called CONTRACT, Google place an order, if LG can't fulfill the order there will be consequences so it's not LG for sure, otherwise GG can take LG to court.
"Samsung had supplies to keep those devices in stock" - you mean Nexus 10?
52. sprockkets (Posts: 1155; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Samsung already made a 7.7 inch tablet, around 13 months ago.
44. phonemirer (Posts: 111; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)
wasnt note 2 taller and less wide ?? anyway it is nearly the same size
note serie is a bigger and more powerful copy of the s series
s2 ---> note
s3 ---> note 2
brace yourselves, huawei ascend mate is 6.1 inch, i hope they re selt with jeans with gigantic pockets
61. Klamba92 (Posts: 195; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)
I agree as well I will buy the next nexus small tablet if they keep the same dimensions or increased by a very small amount while trimming the bezel. Similar to the Motorola droid RAZR to the RAZR hd, maybe even make it edge to edge.
3. wendygarett (unregistered)
Where is moto nexus, Google?
4. technut (Posts: 52; Member since: 03 Aug 2012)
5" 1080p display, 2gb ram, 13/3mp camera, tegra 4 on board starting at $299??? A wet dream indeed.. But I'm calling BS!
7. wendygarett (unregistered)
If this is true, Google has intention to make more tegra chips exclusive apps to ease the developers, in order to attract more apps developer and surpass the ios...
57. cheetah2k (Posts: 773; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)
How does Google control Nvidia to make more tegra chips exclusive apps???? I mean WTF?
Its the developers - not Google - who specifically design Nvidia Tegra optimised apps, etc... It has nothing to do with Google, or Nvidia for that matter.
IMO, in any case, I've not seen any major improvement in Tegra optimised games vs Exynos or even Snapdragon anyway, so who really cares what CPU goes into it - so long as its an 8 core Exynos 5 series :p
6. blingblingthing (Posts: 424; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)
Wow android, you really don't sleep do ya?
12. valapsp (Posts: 473; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
Both promoting. Another masterpiece coming from Google...
23. valapsp (Posts: 473; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
That's PROMISING of course. Mistake was made by JellyBean's swype keyboard :)
17. jove39 (Posts: 1265; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Thats awesome...LG and Google are on roll :)
19. wildcard (Posts: 65; Member since: 15 Jan 2013)
Start eating those word , like their say that apple phone will never an l say it again never will be a low or cheap budget phone to be produce an look at it now an other thing esle that their phone will never be in or on a low budget carrier look at it now ,so start in eating those words. In other words u will never know what will happin in the future ^-^ plus go Google go!!
22. techguy22 (Posts: 226; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)
nexus 5 or S4. decision will be made when they both come out. i got my eyes on nexus 10. i want a nexus 7,7
25. medicci37 (Posts: 616; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
I don't see how lg did such a good job with their first Nexus phone. With a throttled processor, mediocre camera, ridiculous amount of storage 4 a phone that doesn't have a sd card, Non removable battery. & above all else, The bs strategy of limiting production, so that even if your willing to wait a unheard of amount of time, to buy 1, it's still not available. I don't care if they sell it for a dollar. If you can't actually buy the phone, WTF is the point.
45. phonemirer (Posts: 111; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)
u say nexus 4 ??? yea, the 8gb w no sd seems like they re copying strategies from apple, want 8gb moar ?? then gimme 100$ moar
59. MeoCao (unregistered)
All designed decisions are Google's, not LG's.
26. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
Again? Can LG keep up with the production this time...?
27. N.Reynolds (Posts: 257; Member since: 15 Feb 2011)
I really hope not. I wasn't a fan of the Nexus 4. Wasn't satisfied with LG making it either. I'm ready for another HTC or Motorola Nexus or one with just the Google name on it being manufactured by Motorola Mobility. Plus I want LTE cause I love my Verizon.
29. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
well we will see if you can have ALL of that... and, a low price tag... cuz the no lte thing was a marketing strategy to allow google to get it out at such a low cost.....but somehow people REFUSE to see it that way, all they know is "it doesnt have lte" ..(whiny voice implied)
28. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Where is LG Nexus 4?
Or is it that LG Nexus 4 was an "Organized Failure" (on purpose)
30. Guest_star (Posts: 231; Member since: 30 Dec 2011)
my thouhts exactlly, I was just about to write that, mb nexus 4 was a test by google to see how well will it sell because LG doesn't have a great reputation on these geek sites, but LG is really good now, I own LG optimus back, and my sister owns LG optimus L9, OB is decent, but L9 is great so imo this is what happened, LG is getting better and better and google sees that
32. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Yes but what can one expect from LG if they hope/target to sell "just" 70 million odd devices all combined for entire year in 2013. I see a repeat of Nexus 4 for 5 also if LG is the one doing it.
31. noim1 (Posts: 297; Member since: 15 May 2012)
Nooo !! no more LG please !! they have disappointed everyone in supplying the Nexus 4...i don't want to be waiting for the next Nexus for Months or Sold Out (due to low production) after the release...
35. donfem (Posts: 522; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
Companies learn from mistakes in my opinion
36. ayephoner (Posts: 836; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
37. JunitoNH (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)
Don't forget the fragile back, which shatters by a simple sneeze.
38. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6264; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Wait for the 2nd nexus tablet & a sony nexus phone.
40. BadAssAbe (Posts: 434; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)
I wish they would just add a SD slot to a nexus device.
Dream Nexus Phone
Sony Xperia Z(Water/Dust Proof, MicroSD Slot, 16GB Builtin, Small Bezel, Thin, HighEnd Specs)
5in Super HD AMOLED Plus Screen
Its nice to have dreams :-)
46. Zero0 (Posts: 583; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
LG royally messed up with the Nexus 4. They couldn't produce fast enough to satisfy demand. Last I checked, it's been sold out for over a month and a half.
It would take an entirely new brand of insanity to bring them back for not one, but two new devices.