LG G2 sales fall behind expectations: 2.3 million units in 4 months
0. phoneArena 09 Dec 2013, 07:56 posted on
The LG G2 is one of the most exciting smartphones to launch in the second half of the year, but that excitement seems to have been mostly among reviewers…
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1. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 3377; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
I think 'Price' is the main culprit in most of the sales cases except iPhones.
10. Finalflash (Posts: 2074; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Not exactly, all high end phones are pretty much the same price so it isn't like one has a leg up on the other. The problem is that they took a risk with a "unique" button placement which isn't exactly too conventional and if people didn't like it, the product will largely fail. Another reason is that there is barely any differentiation when comparing to others with equivalent handsets, so why go with a company that was previously known for bad software and support.
15. in_core (Posts: 80; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)
In my country (prices converted to USD)
S4 16 GB - $550
One 32 GB - $562.5
G2 16GB - $575
Only $25 more than S4. Dont think the price is high when its put into perspective.
21. hung2900 (Posts: 858; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
The main reasons arr that normal people think it's ugly, uncomfortable with buttons behind and they don't like LG's brand
25. in_core (Posts: 80; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)
ugly? lol S4 is in the legendary ugly phone ever. S3 was ugly in its time but after seeing S4 i think S3 looks gorgeous. lol
53. in_core (Posts: 80; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)
Yup check and working fine. Thats why i ditched the S4.
69. yoitsjustin (Posts: 6; Member since: 04 Nov 2013)
Lmfao you're weird. The S3 looks really ugly. I had an iPhone 4, S3, S4, and LG G2. The S3 was really the ugliest. It was thin sure, but the sides were built strangely and the button was too thin and placed too low. The S4 improved on the looks but the microslim bezel look is the only thing I missed, which I love on my G2
47. phonetekmek (Posts: 70; Member since: 04 Oct 2013)
What normal person considers it ugly? You may not like the back button placement, but other than that it is a great looking phone. In fact you are the only person I've seen say its not visually pleasing. Even my mom likes it and just picked it upi this last Friday.
20. hung2900 (Posts: 858; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
Most people when I recommended this phone they said it's damn ugly, opposite most review.
64. findinghomer (Posts: 14; Member since: 11 Dec 2013)
Sluggish sales doesn't make the phone any less, it just means it wasn't marketed well.
3. N-fanboy (Posts: 538; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)
Thats what you get for putting buttons on its back.
22. eli577 (Posts: 81; Member since: 29 Jun 2010)
Nope, that's what you get for going with 16/32gb options and in a lot of regions only the 16gb model is available officially. Not to mention that carriers also sell the 16gb version. You can make phones without storage expension capabilities, but then again you must go with bigger internal storage like 32/64gb.
This is my only concern and the main reason that I haven't had my S4 replaced yet by a G2.
37. E.S.1 (Posts: 295; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)
That's the main reason why I was interested in that particular phone. And I'm surprised that nobody did this years ago.
4. abhi12345 (Posts: 13; Member since: 16 Sep 2013)
Not every country has unlimited 3g or 4g which leads to people relying on microsd cards and not every country has 24 hours electricity leading to people expecting removable battery.
Note 3 is better :
1. 3gb ram
2. bigger screen
4. fastest android phone in the world
5. removable battery.
6. good update record.
6. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Note 3 is the fastest android phone in the world...yet.
11. in_core (Posts: 80; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)
We are talking about a phone. I assume 5.2" is the biggest we can ever go with a phone. So bigger screen is a point of comparison in this case.
And by fastest phone you should be referring to the Snapdragon 800. Which both G2 and Note 3 has. I assume by fastest you were meaning to say itss got larger RAM. Yes Note 3 has 3GB ram but that does not make the processor/gpu any faster.
36. jan25 (Posts: 435; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
1. 3gb ram.. Unnecessary really.
2. Bigger screen.. With a bigger form factor, which is a con rather than a pro.
3. Stylus.. A niche, even for the Note 3 fans.
4. Fastest android phone in the world.. Not sure where you got them from, the Nexus 5 boots up faster.
5. Removable battery.. Granted, it's a nice thing to have.
6. Good update record.. The Note 2 and S3 recieved the 4.3 update 2 or 3 days ago.
45. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9689; Member since: 14 May 2012)
My Note 3 boots up in less than 15 seconds...
49. jan25 (Posts: 435; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
Then the Nexus 5 boots up in less than that ;)
5. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
That's what you get for not releasing your phone globally.
7. gmracer (Posts: 24; Member since: 09 May 2013)
well i have the nexus 4 and i'm happy, but i would like to have G2 on my hands, the problem
no money jajajaajajajaj
9. kbreeze415 (Posts: 14; Member since: 21 Jul 2012)
It also doesn't help that LG is notoriously slow with their updates. Still running 4.1.2 on my g pro.
12. in_core (Posts: 80; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)
The only complain about LG. If only would have make updates faster and supported 2 year old devices it would easily become a superior company than Samsung.
23. kbreeze415 (Posts: 14; Member since: 21 Jul 2012)
I agree, and because of that I will probably never get another lg phone.
26. in_core (Posts: 80; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)
well i just installed Cm 10.2 on my G2 a week back and its great. There is always the dev community who helps you out without even taking any money from your pocket, where as the companies who are taking all the big bucks does the least effort
44. freebee269 (Posts: 529; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
I think you missed the point. They are talking about updates from the OEM not from third party like xda. I agree with them the updates from l_g are pretty slow.
65. findinghomer (Posts: 14; Member since: 11 Dec 2013)
No. Maybe if it were only available in 16 gb, but 32 gb of internal storage makes no sd a nonissue
14. sanyamjain75 (Posts: 14; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)
I want to ask that
is the speed of Indian version of note3 has same processor as of outside india
that is exynos 5 vs s800
then how is fastest because its same as s4 which is not the fastest
in india flagships other than samsung are fastest...
19. Reality_Check (Posts: 277; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Technically it's not the same. Note 3 (N9000) uses an Exynos 5 Octa 5420 at a clock speed of 1.9 GHz (C-A15) / 1.3 GHz (C-A7) while the S4 (I9500) uses an Exynos 5 Octa 5410 at a clock speed of 1.6 GHz (C-A15) / 1.2 GHz (C-A7).
16. johneduardo (Posts: 5; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
When I was in the market for a new smartphone in October I looked at both LG G2 and note 3. I did a lot of research before buying note. What made me go for note. 4k video recorder, 3g of ram. Most important Samsung is more likely to update there phone than LG. I believe LG g2 is running 4.2. Note3 4.3. I've heard and read from reviews online that LG interface is horrible, although Samsung is not that great either but it's workable.
43. freebee269 (Posts: 529; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
I agree with everythingthat you said except for the interface. I like the interface on my g 2 better than on my g s 4.
17. dspkblympkbl (Posts: 51; Member since: 23 May 2013)
Expectations? According to who or what? First of all the iPhone had the lead in from the iPods and iTunes which at the time were the best thing since sliced bread, and a 6months window from introduction to release, so the anticipation for it was huge to say the least.
These companies don't give time to their products to mature, cause the market does not really allow them to. But then look at ios 7 biting off of web OS...almost 4 years later. Expect apple to release a bb10 type of ios in about as much time.
I like the htc one and I'm keeping it for at least the two years of my contract, regardless of what happens to htc
40. greathero1 (Posts: 529; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)
iPhone has nothing to with it. The expectations were set by LG. They were hoping to move 3 million units and fell a little short. That has nothing to do with Apple so why insert them into the conversation.
As for iOS7 biting Web OS. Android also took some things from Web OS so who really cares. All of these OSs add similar features as their competitors or outright copies them. Everybody has taken something from Web OS so I fail to see what your point is by interjecting Apple into the conversation.
18. mottykels (Posts: 372; Member since: 15 May 2013)
because it has no sd slot, not removable battery and poor software update support :)
38. E.S.1 (Posts: 295; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)
But to some of us all those things are irrelevant when it comes to buying a phone.
63. findinghomer (Posts: 14; Member since: 11 Dec 2013)
In case you haven't noticed, Sd slots are becoming obsolete in every manufacturer. Cloud storage is much much more resourceful, so 32gb of internal storage is plenty. It's not bc of lack of sd slot, in fact most average users don't even know what that is
24. papss (unregistered)
I just traded my note 3 for a g2. Great phone....
61. oister85 (Posts: 426; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
@ papas n e.s.1 I'm thinking of buying the note 3 or the lg g2. I want to know what make you switch..?
27. Desmund (Posts: 74; Member since: 01 Nov 2012)
I call BS on many of these comments. I just Got the G2 like 2 weeks ago, and as of right now I have no gripes with it. Except maybe 1 and that's the Camera, but that probably could get fixed in a update.
As for them being slow with Updates so be it. It's already been said some time around February or March 4.4 is going to be on LG G2, and really I can wait barely explored the phone in 2 weeks finding so much stuff on it.
Last this phone isn't ugly honestly the buttons on back on the phone were genius Imo call me bias, but this is my first LG phone and couldn't be more happy.
66. findinghomer (Posts: 14; Member since: 11 Dec 2013)
I don't like the buttons on the back, but the phone itself is physically sexy lol
28. Slammer (Posts: 1374; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
Another victim to the lack of expandable memory and non-removable battery.
There are two types of phones selling. Apple and Samsung. Apple has one business model and Samsung has another. For those that don't like Apple and the other manufacturers following its suit, Samsung is wiping the floors world wide with those that seek accessibility of control for their own memory upgrade and battery removal.
Aesthetics is secondary in spite of what tech sites and tech geeks want the world to believe.
34. gmracer (Posts: 24; Member since: 09 May 2013)
eeee, i think depend on what you're looking for, you sound very dramatic..
39. greathero1 (Posts: 529; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)
I seriously doubt it. Looks more like higher than usual expectations for sales. The increase was just marginal from the last flagship phone and they were expecting sales to be through the roof. I do agree that having access to the battery and microSD card slot is definitely a plus, its definitely not as dramatic a picture you are trying to paint. People are going to want what they want whether the manufacturer gives you access or not. Samsung's success is not mainly due to its micro sd card slots and batteries. That is one bonus on a long list of other things that Samsung very does well. Samsung has a superior strategy and supply chain to pump out just about anything for every type of customer. That is why they are successful. They make quality products in every class and put every feature known to man inside of it. Removable batteries and SD cards are just one of them. While important to you and many others, its not a deal breaker for me and many others all the same. I haven't had an SD card slot and removable battery in 2 years and I have managed quite well just like many others have.
55. gmracer (Posts: 24; Member since: 09 May 2013)
thats the way you have the perception, not everybody think like you... I don t care abut Sd cards or removable batteries, and still like the G2 ,....
59. Slammer (Posts: 1374; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
Why don't you care about having more control over a device you pay good money for?
Don't you see what the industry is trying to do?
Can you not change your own battery or do you not know how to upgrade your own memory?
People need to stop and take a breather here. We need to start to realize that the expensive "Premium" devices in our hands should be easily controlled and manipulated by us(the consumer). Leave the less expensive phones as the throw away items. Doesn't this make more sense?
58. Slammer (Posts: 1374; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
There always tends to be an over abundance of mellow dramatics in these sites. Even at my age, I can't resist throwing in my own theatrics from time to time. However, I see it as the world is starting to realize that a premium phone should be left as the old PCs. Being able to augment and build on it when desired. Not purchase what is a limited rendition. The cheaper phones allow upgrading memory or replacing batteries leaving more room for growth at will. It should be the other way around. As modular phones start to percolate through the media, it sheds the reality that more phones should be like PCs as I mentioned. Pay a little extra but be allowed to customize and/or replace components when needed. These expensive computers we hold in our hands, shouldn't be governed by manufacturer control. The world is slowly realizing this. At this juncture, Samsung is at least recogniziing the fail rate of batteries and also the consumer's interest to upgrade memory when needed.
If you want throw away phones, purchase the one that has limited access. However, the ones where you can build it as you grow, should be allowed the ability to uphold longer sustainability of use as you need it. I'm not claiming infinite. But, I am trying to make a point that the more expensive "premium" flagship phones should be able to retain longer ownership from an individual.
67. findinghomer (Posts: 14; Member since: 11 Dec 2013)
Non removable batteries are today's phones. It allows them to make them thinner but boast more power. And cloud storage is today's technology bc it's resourceful, and easy to manage. So 32 gb is plenty of onboard storage. I bet you still play game consoles with wired controllers? Lol
31. E.S.1 (Posts: 295; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)
Hmm.. Very interesting.
It's the best phone I ever had and would probably not go back to Samsung, HTC or Iphone for a long time if ever.
Battery is amazing (non removable?! who cares) Very fast, and you can customize it easily without any launchers and yes no removable storage and in most cases is more then enough if you go with 32Gig.
Updates? Big deal... they don't do much anyways, except slight changes in most cases which this phone doesn't need at all.
I can live with this for years :)
33. Desmund (Posts: 74; Member since: 01 Nov 2012)
Agreed I had 16GB on Moto Atrix 4G(loved that phone) was able to live comfortably with it. Now going to 32GB is way more than enough.
After I figured out the issue of G2 draining battery it became what it should be now it can last at least more than 1 day if I don't game on it maybe even 3 days.
32. E.S.1 (Posts: 295; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)
Oh.. and BTW if you need more then 32 Gigs you should probably consider getting a computer lol
60. Slammer (Posts: 1374; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
The problem is, most people don't know how much memory they need or even realize they should be backing up their files or pictures every day to a more secure or stable source. It is only when the device fails and info is lost forever, that being able to remove the memory and slap it into a new device, is invaluable.
What? This doesn't happen? That's like saying you have never been a victim of a crime so it shouldn't matter to you. The bottom line is, it happens and it should be recognized.
68. findinghomer (Posts: 14; Member since: 11 Dec 2013)
That's the benefit of cloud storage. You don't need to swap sd cards. Simply log in. What are you going to do when your phone is stolen? Everything is lost. With cloud storage, download app onto new phone, log in, and there it is again. People are too afraid of change.
42. GeekMovement (Posts: 1871; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
That's sad, this phone was really amazing this year. I hope LG continues it's effort in making their flagships better for 2014.