LG G Pad 8.3 officially announced; slate rolls out in North America during Q4
0. phoneArena 01 Sep 2013, 00:26 posted on
LG has made it official. The LG G Pad 8.3 has been officially announced by the Korean manufacturer and has the first FHD display on an 8 inch slate; the actual size of the glass is 8.3 inches, carrying resolution of 1920 x 1200 resolution (WUXGA). A quad-core 1.7GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 processor is under the hood. Using the QPair app, each call and message that appears on a smartphone will also appear on the tablet...
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1. xtplnet (Posts: 42; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
Nice specifications !! and I like less bezel design.
9. saravanan083 (Posts: 19; Member since: 30 Mar 2013)
hahahaah r u kidding it s a tablet and 600 is more than u need
and currently its the top hardware any tablet could offer
27. Taters (Posts: 4360; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Actually, I think the A6x and the Exynos A15 dual is still more powerful. They basically can't even run on a battery the same size as a phone battery. They need like 9000 mah or higher.
If they didn't have their 2500 x 1600 screens to push, they would benchmark much higher than the s600.
Basically those two beasts were designed for tablets and the S600 was designed for phones.
32. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
It isn't. This link isn't really proof, but something to consider
It's just a little better in benchmarks than the old S4 Pro, which means it's probably not gonna give the S600 much to worry about.
34. Taters (Posts: 4360; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
It is. You just listed a website that has the Exynos 4412 A9 ranked higher than the Exynos 5 dual A15. Not very reputable at all.
Like I said, if the Exynos 5 dual was benched with a resolution lower than 2560 x 1600 it would crush the S4pro and most likely the S600 as well. It is an entirely different architecture.
Just look at the Chromebook benchmarks at Anandtech and the A6X benchmarks. Different tier entirely.
I didn't even mention the i5 in the Surface Pro which would make that dude's comments even more ridiculous.
35. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
It's entirely reputable, as long as you understand that their scores aren't entirely based on CPU and GPU performance. You can see the individual categories and take away what's most important to you.
36. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
and also, that particular benchmark test they're reporting is an offscreen test. The resolution of the devices the chips are running isn't a factor.
And looking at anandtech's page full of graphics benchmarks, the S600 tops the Exynos 5 dual in the vast majority of the tests, some off screen and some on screen. Naturally they'll both lose to the A6X in a graphics test, but the A6X trails them both in CPU performance.
So anyway, I'm not convinced that either of them are on a higher "tier" than the S600. Benchmarks don't support that idea, unless you're talking about an entirely different set of behcmark tests run by anandtech...
37. Taters (Posts: 4360; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Benchmarks don't mean jack squat especially when the Xperia Z with the exact same internals as the Nexus 4 crushes the Nexus 4 in benchmarks despite the Xperia Z pushing more pixels and a heavier skin. Yes the Nexus 4 has thermal throttling but I am pretty sure the Xperia Z does as well on a lower scale.
Which leads me to the obvious, the Exynos 5 Dual is meant to run on a 9000 mah or higher battery with no thermal throttling and the Mali on it is much better than the Adreno in the S4 pro and S600. If you understood the architectures better you would see.
In theory the Exynos 5 Dual is probably crazier than the Exynos Octa which smokes the S600 in all benchmarks. Reason? Well it uses the 2 A15 cores at ALL TIMES with no thermal throttling involved because it doesn't need to power down for a small 2300 mah battery and can run full throttle with a 9000 mah. It also does not need to resort to some weaker power saving cores so it runs at A15 pipelines at all times.
If you think resolution isn't a factor, well just look at the huge differences between the Samsung Chromebook and the Nexus 10 both running the Exynos 5 Dual. Also look at how the Nexus 10 smokes the Nexus 4(which runs a S4 pro which is a slightly weaker S600) in benchmarks despite pushing a lot more pixels.
So if you follow the knowledge instead of the s600 with Touchwiz or Sense 5 out bench marking the Exynos 5 Dual with stock android(notoriously poor at bench marks despite being the lightest Android skin), you would see that the true A15 architecture and no handicaps designed for tablets and netbooks Exynos 5 dual should easily out muscle fake A15 architecture designed for everything but mostly phones S600.
And the A6X is definitely on a higher tier. It's much more powerful than the one they use on the iphone 5 and the one on the iphone 5 was meant for phones and small batteries just like the S600 is.
38. Jimstar (Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
You cannot say:
"Benchmarks don't mean jack squat especially when the Xperia Z with the exact same internals as the Nexus 4 crushes the Nexus 4 in benchmarks despite the Xperia Z pushing more pixels and a heavier skin."
And then pretend this has no significance:
"Yes the Nexus 4 has thermal throttling but I am pretty sure the Xperia Z does as well on a lower scale."
You just explained the difference yourself, don't try to downplay it...
Oh and I never said resolution isn't a factor, I said it isn't factored in to tests that are conducted off screen, how hard is that to understand?
If I understood architectures better I would see that? Despite all your talk, all we have are tests where the Exynos 5 loses. If the Exynos 5 dual is better, why can't it put up the numbers? If it was so much better why isn't it outshining the competition in the same enviornment? Oh it needs a bigger battery? So its superiority is conditional? Where I come from that isn't really superiority at all, if it NEEDS certain conditions to perform then it's just worse until those conditions are met, and in a tablet, those conditions haven't been met. Sure it's designed for tablets, tablets with 9000mah batteries...of which there are none.
At the end of the day the comment you replied to said this "currently its the top hardware any tablet could offer", which might not be accurate anyway. Still you replied by going to bat for the Exynos 5 dual, which whether or not you think is superior when properly equipped, FAILS to outdo the S600 in any benchmark in which the two are tested. You can talk about architectures, pipelines, batteries,
So to this date, as far as android tablets and even windows tablets as far as I can tell, the S600 is better, there's no way around it. Until the Exynos 5 actually does outperform it, all your reasons and rationale as to why it would, could, or should, don't mean much.
41. Taters (Posts: 4360; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Thermal throttling doesn't explain why a phone with the EXACT same processor and a lot heavier workload out benches an S4pro with a lot lighter workload. That is solid evidence that benchmarks mean jack all.
UM the Nexus 10 and the ipad 3/4 ave batteries 9000 mah or higher. You obviously have no clue about technology.
So are you seriously taking unfair benchmarks with totally different software over knowledge about architecture when deciding which chips are superior? The A15 arhcitecture is too powerful to run on a cellphone battery without power saving cores. Anyone with half a brain would take that over benchmarks any day. Especially since weak phones like the Xperia Z and iphone 5 kill benchmarks with weak hardware.
It isn't rationale, it's a fact. An A15 architecture will out perform a non A15 architecture. That is from ARM, the inventor of mobile chips mouth, not mine.
16. Dr.Phil (Posts: 983; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Most likely because they are going to try and offer the tablet at the $300 price range. If they offered the Snapdragon 800 processor then it would cost closer to $350 which would enter into the larger 10 inch tablet territory in terms of price range.
42. Ezzy123 (Posts: 12; Member since: 08 Mar 2011)
Because when they tested it on here it started heating really quickly.
4. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)
Take that Samsung and Apple!!
13. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 495; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
The 8" screen size tablet war starts now. I think 7" will be no more. And yeah, LG beat them to it. Releases their tablet early. Now its time for Samsung and Apple to release theirs.
18. shennawew (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 May 2013)
How about Galaxy Note 8.0? Or Galaxy Tab 3 8.0?
Not a samsung fan, but samsung already released them before this LG Gpad
23. Commentator (Posts: 2804; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
The iPad Mini is 7.85", that's close enough isn't it? Especially when part of the screen real-estate isn't taken up by buttons?
5. chunk1x (Posts: 248; Member since: 25 Jun 2011)
Is it me or most of its specs are almost the same as my LG Optimus G Pro?
6. promise7 (Posts: 556; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
Is the back brushed aluminum? If so, it looks really nice. They should have done that for the G2.
10. anleoflippy (Posts: 447; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)
Looking forward to a comparison between this and the Sony Xperia Tablet Z.
11. red_fox (unregistered)
I wish that LG front logo disappears, it kinda of ruining the design.
14. SonyPS4 (Posts: 302; Member since: 21 May 2013)
Got sd card or not ? 16gb is enough for apps and games but not for media
15. JMartin22 (Posts: 1582; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
Looks like Samsung 2 is making a move on Samsung's product line up.
17. Topcat488 (Posts: 1210; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
I hear ya dude... I too think Samsung and LG is the same "PERSON". Hehehe.
+1 from me.
19. Patrik69 (Posts: 4; Member since: 14 Dec 2012)
When are manufacturers going to learn the speakers go on the front of the device?
20. JMartin22 (Posts: 1582; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
As much as we like them, sometimes there are design engineering restrictions with certain hardware component placements. This is a mid-ranged tablet at best.
40. Patrik69 (Posts: 4; Member since: 14 Dec 2012)
We'll just have to agree to disagree... Mid-Range? I don't think you'll find many tablets with a Snapdragon 600 processor. Not even Sony's tablet has one. This is the highest specced tablet I've seen. And putting speakers on the front isn't a huge design challenge. Samsung, Blackberry, and HTC have done it. And if cell phones have an earpiece speaker and microphone at the other end well it doesn't take much engineering to replace those with tiny little speakers.
21. cR203 (Posts: 192; Member since: 27 Jan 2013)
Wow. The design looks great. I like the way they designed the bezels. I may actually consider buying this. This is a very solid tablet from lg with a great design and great specs. They should've gave the camera a flash though.
22. amn70 (Posts: 1; Member since: 01 Sep 2013)
From the pictures I am not seeing any indication of an SD card slot. The side and bottom edges don't appear to have any. Possibly on the top edge which isn't shown. I like the stereo speakers though I wish they would've put them on the front. There is plenty of bezel for them on the left and right side when the tablet is held in landscape. LG missed the mark on that one.
24. DONUT (Posts: 342; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)
nice looking device. i guess how well it does would really depend on its pricing. if it was as overpriced as the previous LG Optimus Pad, i highly doubt this would be a success. it has the potential to be a hit tho
25. Taters (Posts: 4360; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
That looks like it would make a really nice design for a phone. They should have used this design for the G2, I would have bought it for sure.
Looks very similar to the Galaxy Tab 7.7 and the Galaxy S variant with the metal back, I think it was the Rogers version.
26. doubler86 (Posts: 320; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)
reminds me of the HTC EVO tablet from a couple of years ago.
28. Taters (Posts: 4360; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Looks like a modernized version of this. I like it, looks great but the aluminum in the tab 7.7 and iPads do not help in any way shape or form. Just makes the tablet heat up quickly inside your car on a sunny day.
29. JunitoNH (Posts: 1249; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)
That is a nice looking Samsung Galaxy Mega.
30. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)
Like it, just make 2mp front camera, 'coz my olds and my daughter love Skype!
My favorite tablet design is Motorola 8" which is xclusive to verison, hoping moto will make a variant of it with full hd display and optimize battery.
31. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2018; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
Make a windows 8 pro tab, than ill buy :-)
33. Jillxz (Posts: 148; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)
This tablet still looks like a very large smartphone as all of them do that are 7 to 8 inches. They all look long and narrow. Only both of the iPads have a much better design. More screen space. On't want an iPad , but guess I will need to get one and stop waiting on the androids and windows tablets as their designs are off kilter.