LG E970 for AT&T with Adreno 320 GPU comes out on top of graphics benchmarks
0. phoneArena 28 May 2012, 08:25 posted on
The specs also list HD 1280x768 pixels display and Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, and we've heard before that the Sprint version - LG LS970 "Eclipse" - of this new LG flagship might feature 2GB of RAM, like the LG Optimus LTE 2, and sport a quad-core processor, so that's what could be in store for AT&T's version as well. We doubt it, though, since the APQ8064 looks destined for tablets, as it doesn't have an integrated modem, and its might would be pretty pointless in a phone anyway...
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1. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
Can't wait for this to land on phones/tablets this year just to see how it performs.
36. MrKnowIT (Posts: 3; Member since: 29 May 2012)
"but it is only slightly better than the 6646 score of the Samsung Galaxy S III"
that is just sad!!!! adreno gpu is a POS even worst is that adreno 225 in the SG3
3. jayrownage (Posts: 10; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
on par with LAST YEAR's mali400...
prolly one of the reasons why rushing mali 605 in SGS3 is not necessary
4. DePenguin (Posts: 22; Member since: 13 Jan 2012)
Oh you mean take the craptastic, ugly, and laggy LG UI? Or maybe the uninspired, cheap, and ugly hardware? Oh oh and what about their constant bugs and lack of updates? Yup I'd rather not take any of that thanks.
6. OpTiMuS_BlAcK (Posts: 418; Member since: 04 May 2012)
And you're only pointing at LG? Hahahaha Prove it.
Tell me your biased answers.
8. Atrixboyyy (Posts: 326; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
Go to there list of phones and tell me how many of them score higher then the Gs2 then go back and see how bad the software was when they so eagerly threw the G2X at consumers, just like nVidia first out the gate and first back at the drawing board.
9. OpTiMuS_BlAcK (Posts: 418; Member since: 04 May 2012)
Past is past, look at their innovations now.
It's not like other companies didn't encounter any problems right?
10. Atrixboyyy (Posts: 326; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
One innovation that hasn't seen the light of day in a consumers hand is hardly anything to point out and of coarse not that's why I compared them to nVidia
33. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
optimus black, maybe you should handle a non-lg product, and judge for yourself.
i thought lg was great too, i loved my optimus one and g2x. now that i have my evo 3d i realize the lgs were horribly buggy.
just my .02
41. OpTiMuS_BlAcK (Posts: 418; Member since: 04 May 2012)
Hahaha I've handled a lot of phones by borrowing, or from testing in stores.
I'm not saying LG is the best but if you would consider how they continue innovate in the mobile industry like with the first Capacitive screen, first no glassed 3d and even a 2GB ram phone.
If they had not implemented these into mobiles, others would have not implemented them too.
I'd even want to have a Galaxy Nexus though I'm gonna want to keep using LG to show my support for them.
Ever since I got my LG Cookie I've followed how the mobile tech has developed. From 200 MHz Feature phones to Quad core Androids.
16. DePenguin (Posts: 22; Member since: 13 Jan 2012)
Yes I'm pointing at LG for being exceptionally terrible in those categories :) Name 5 LG phones that have been updated at least once in the past year... Name 3 LG phones that haven't been plagued by bugs again and again. Name 1 LG phone (not counting the prada) that actually had a design and build quality that wasn't plastic through and through.
Samsung may use plastic but at least their plastic is durable. At least Samsung phones aren't plagued by bugs and atleast Samsung updates their phones.
HTC's build quality is better than Samsung's and LG's put together. Its UI is much less intrusive now and actually looks beautiful and polished compared to Samsung's and LG's UI. Not only that, HTC is best with updates.
Motorola's build quality is on par with HTC. They have excellent radios and excellent hardware. True, Motorola phones aren't updated much but at least they arent plagued by the bugs that LG phones have. The only thing LG beats Motorola in is in screens and just recently processors.
LG can flaunt all the most amazing hardware they want but until they start supporting their phones rather than releasing phone after phone, they aren't going to succeed. They need to polish their UI and hire a designer that can use his/her eyes and knows what good design is.
40. OpTiMuS_BlAcK (Posts: 418; Member since: 04 May 2012)
They've learned from their mistakes and had minimized problems to a considerable amount. ^_^
7. Commentator (Posts: 3665; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
What, so LG licensed out the use of a Qualcomm GPU and it makes them a great handset maker? I'm sure HTC and Samsung will be using the exact same GPU in their upcoming phones that have better build-quality and better user-interfaces than LG.
Kudos to LG for its recently-unveiled 5 inch 1080p LCD display with 440ppi though. That's most likely the screen HTC will be using in its phablet coming this fall.
24. ph00ny (Posts: 1166; Member since: 26 May 2011)
That's like saying kudos to Toshiba for unveiling 6" 2560 x 1600 display last year or kudos to samsung for unveiling multiple wqxga resolution displays last year. Neither have ended up in a product yet
29. Commentator (Posts: 3665; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Yes, but unlike the 6" Toshiba display, rumors abound about at least one device with a 5" 1080p display.
26. ph00ny (Posts: 1166; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Seeing how they fared with exact same core hardware as its competitor, take that LG haters comment is laughable
5. PackMan (Posts: 277; Member since: 09 Mar 2012)
I would rather see off-screen test scores rather than the vsync limited one. It seems to be impressive non the less.
11. hung2900 (Posts: 949; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
It's Vsync limited, without offscreen benchmark this score is useless.
13. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
that better not be the adreno 320 gpu. I was expecting more power out of it. if its true, the exynos 5250 with Mali 600 is gonna wipe the floor with it. ugh.
17. Atrixboyyy (Posts: 326; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
Just imagine if Sammy had a let's kill the competition state of mind the new Mali would've been used instead of the over clocked version.
18. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5711; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i was expecting more too. looks like all the hype might have been for nothing.
23. PackMan (Posts: 277; Member since: 09 Mar 2012)
So, you wanted 150fps on vsync limited test?
You are jumping to conclusion too fast. This benchmark is not enough to judge the performance of the chip.
25. ph00ny (Posts: 1166; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I think they're also licensed for PowerVR 6 as well
14. jove39 (Posts: 1819; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
LS is really building SGS3 competitor...good for consumer...more choice of awesome devices!
15. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
@remixfa, and how do you know how powerful this GPU is?
19. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
he don't, he all talk.
Like how he said that the 4412 was going to blow the T3 and all the other chipset away but with all the benchmark out the SGS3 is slightly better then the one X in Anutu and in some test worst then the S4.
20. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5711; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
then what about this article? maybe you missed it while you were scrolling down to the comment section to talk about how great this GPU is when in reality you don't know anything about it at all. if this preliminary benchmark is any indication then this is really not going to be that impressive in comparison to the hype that's been surrounding it.
22. PackMan (Posts: 277; Member since: 09 Mar 2012)
This preliminary benchmark doesn't indicate anything. This is vsync limited test. PowerVR SGX543MP4 does worse in GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt Standard test but blows other away on other tests.
27. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5711; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
even this test would be able to indicate the substantial difference in power that this thing is rumored to have if it does have it. frame cap or not.
28. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Last I checked the overclocked Mali 400 wiped the floor with the competition in every test that wasn't frame limited.
The Egypt test isn't a basic test. The Adreno 320 beat the sgs3 so it's very capable, but when it's competition is tablets and not , it's still underpowered compared to its most direct competition, the Mali 600... Which is supposed to be 5x more powerful than the Mali 400.
It's all about context... Don't get your Qualcomm fanboy thongs in a bunch.
31. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
I am not a fan unlike you, I have a vita and the SGX543 is the best GPU right now.
Last time I check the 225 is still better at nenamark 2.0
34. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
here we go with the stupid name calling.
"im not a fan unlike you.. bla bla blah"
really, then why is it when i type the REALITY of the placement of the chips, you get upset about it and tell me i dont know jack? Hmm?
Its a simple placement chart. There is no fanboyish crap about it. Its amazing that the people that get upset that "their" chip doesnt come out on top call other's a fanboy for merely suggesting that small fact.
get over it.
for now, the 4412 with overclocked mali400 is the top phone CPU/GPU. The adreno 320 was supposed to be something big time, but if its only barely coming out above the mali 400, its not going to be a competition at all for the mali 600 or whatever apple and TI brings out with PowerVR.
And this article is proof of what I was saying in our conversations from before. the "pro" is going for tablets not for phones for now. Its trying to race against the 5250, not the 4412.
period. point blank. cry to your mama.
43. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
adreno 320 is a completely new GPU architecture, meant to be used from smartphones to laptops.
had you put any brains into that fact, you'd realize that it means we're talking about modular design with huge clock speed span/overclocking abilities.
adreno 320 for windows 8 pc's most surely won't be the same as the one in an android smartphone, genius
44. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
suuuurely. do you have ANY proof to back up any claim you just made?
"its a new GPU architecture!"
so is the Mali 600. On paper it still beats the Adreno, and if this is indicative of the real world performance of the Adreno, its not going to be a contest.
Adreno 320 is adreno 320, regardless of what OS its running. The only performance differences will be in clock speeds and OS optimization. They are not going to launch the chip and immediately clock it up, because then they wont have room to grow with it. It took sammy a year to clock up the Mali, and I wouldnt be surprised if we didnt see the Adreno 320 clocked up until after christmas or right around at the absolute earliest. They only generally do that when they are trying to squeeze a bit of extra life out of the chip.
So far, I've been right pretty much every step of the way, yet you still nip at my heels for saying things you dont like. My only surprise has been how low preliminary tests on the chip were, as I expected them to be a lot higher. However, these are preliminary tests and can change dramatically by launch.
37. MrKnowIT (Posts: 3; Member since: 29 May 2012)
damn I bet you feel reeeaalll stupid right about now
21. davidvvassallo (Posts: 39; Member since: 02 Jul 2011)
Looks like its going to be a good year for LG
30. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Remixfa, we are Qualcomm fanboys?
How very ironic, coming from a blind snapdragon basher.
Or if you're not blind, you must be psychic then!
Since you can say this GPU is inferior, based on this single test.
A very relative test, at that.
From a prototype phone.
With an pre-production configuration
With an unknown clock speed of a processor GPU.
Stop making dumb founded conclusions if you want to be taken seriously at all.
And that goes for the author of the article too.
35. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
werent you the same person making judgement on the SGS3 from limited preproduction tests?
oh yea, you were.
42. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
i honestly don't know.. but even if i were, i learned from it..while you were all like, "oh wait now, hold on, this is prematurely, this ain't saying anything yet!!"
so, mr. "objective", see any difference?
45. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
preliminary is preliminary. Even though the SGS3 handily beats the competition, all the tests are preliminary. The phone launches today, so I will take what comes out NOW as fact.
Maybe if you let my words soak in before posting a seething fanboy rant, you would see a whole lot of "IF these are indicative.. bla bla bla". As in, not taken as hard fact, but making an observation based on current data. I expect these scores to go up. It was the simple fact that they are WAY lower than I expected them to be that caught my attention.
I dont make hard judgement until I have a final retail unit to judge by. That doesnt mean I cant put a placeholder out based on early testing. Dont worry your little fanboy head. Its still going to come in well ahead of the Mali400 overclock, its just how far is the question. However its going to have to improve big time to come near where the Mali 600 should end up.
46. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
haha, amazing. what the heck are you talking about?
i just pointed out your double standards!
and while we're at it -complain about the name calling?
have a look at your own post.
calling me a little snapdragon fan is just about the most ridiculous thing ever, lol.
for the x-th time, i have no problems with mali 6xx, or whatever else.
i will gladly acknowledge the best GPU when i see one.
and you're again contradicting your self down the road.
if we compare PHONES here - then this LG is THE phone WHEN it comes out.
just like sgsIII now has the best GPU, it will have the best GPU when it comes out this year.
and when is the sgsIII successor coming out?
as for the true potential of adreno 320, you have no clue, except for the basic fact that it's meant FOR PHONES AND TABLETS AND LAPTOPS. why not use your brain then?
just look at how much of a difference can be made within the same GPU - PowerVr543MP2/MP4, mali400/400Mp..just by pure objective logic adreno 320 for tablets should be twice faster than the same GPU version for phones.
so you have no basis at all for your little rants.
i'm done with this ridiculous discussion
47. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
ive been done with it. i just like seeing your ridiculous responses. :)
can you break down your pure objective logic please? because its lacking any basis in reality. :)
BTW, you prove your bias, either as a fanboy or just trying to troll my posts, since you attack me blindly, yet King has been saying the exact same things nearly word for word and you ignore his posts. So either its personal or your a fanboy. Take your pick.
32. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
What's the point in showing the benchmark when the phone haven't been release yet?