Kuo: Two versions of Samsung Galaxy S5 coming, both with fingerprint scanner and plastic casing
0. phoneArena 26 Jan 2014, 12:17 posted on
KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has made some amazing calls thanks to her connection with Apple. Last year, he made a prescient call on the TouchID fingerprint scanner for the Apple iPhone 5s Now, Kuo takes on the Samsung Galaxy S5 in a research note sent out to his clients. According to Kuo, there will be two versions of the phone, one he calls 'Prime' and the other he calls 'Standard'. Both, alas, are made of plastic...
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1. Credo (Posts: 702; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)
Come on man, why always that plastic, sorry but i don't like the materials you use Samsung... I want to see a more industrial design, you will sell a lot more than you already do ;-)
3. Feanor (Posts: 383; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)
I think they may still have problems to produce their massive amounts of Galaxy S#'s out of premium materials. Apple has found the way, they haven't still... This may explain the rumoured division between plastic S line and metal F line; They can give to people who care about premium builds what they want with the F line, and for they mainstream buyers they can still reach the necessary numbers.
8. Credo (Posts: 702; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)
Sorry, forgot about the F line, still a good way from Samsung to let consumers choose what kind of style they like.
40. Jayshmay (Posts: 82; Member since: 27 Mar 2011)
You call making a phone out of fragile glass to be "premium materials".
63. davenycept (Posts: 193; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
Thank you thank you....I'm tired of this "plastic can't be premium" nonsense..Samsung makes sturdy phones and they look good...I don't want a glass phone that looks sexy but breaks...I'm more concerned about the UI and the internals
10. Mrmark (Posts: 181; Member since: 26 Jan 2013)
The consumer always sets the tone for what is considered premium content!
23. Finalflash (Posts: 2067; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Yea, but the jewellery crowd largely doesn't get that. I personally like the soft feeling of the nexus 5 over the cold metal of my current phone (padfone inifinty). Likely will look to non-metal phones next round.
12. -Shadow- (Posts: 31; Member since: 26 Mar 2013)
the only thing that was wrong with Samsungs materials they already fixed with note 3 which was the glosy back, Also selling numbers would not increase much just because of materials
14. darkkjedii (Posts: 14375; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
What's wrong with plastic? My 5s is metal, my note 3 is plastic. Both phones feel absolutely great in my hand. I'm more concerned with these phones getting too big vs what they're made from.
22. rihel_95 (Posts: 267; Member since: 21 Mar 2012)
So where is S5 active, S5 zoom, S5 mini, S5 korean, S5 neo, S5 duos besides S5 prime and S5 standard?
27. darkkjedii (Posts: 14375; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Have no idea how you came up with that, as a response to mine.
37. tedkord (Posts: 6411; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
You said something remotely complimentary about Samsung. He had to attack that.
41. Jayshmay (Posts: 82; Member since: 27 Mar 2011)
With regards to screensize, I'm drawing the line at
5.0-5.25 inch screen size, that's it.
53. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1313; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
Funny, back when the first Note came out it was called ridiculous at 5.3 inch. That's only 0.05 inch more than your max. My limit is 6.0- 6.5 inches "if" done correctly. Any bigger it's basically a 7" tablet.
56. techaman (unregistered)
I say they should have stopped at 4.8
25. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1313; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
If all you care about are materials just wait for the HTC One sequel. I just don't see the perfect phone fitting everyone's taste. All I hear is that the phone is too big, the phone is too small, no front facing speakers, old CPU, not enough ram, touchwiz sucks, no removable battery, no SD card, no 64gig model, Amoled screen are too vibrant and the list goes on and on.
The only way to have that perfect phone is for the OEM to build it too your specs from a selectable list of components, wait 2 weeks and pay a premium. And when you get the phone you can download vanilla Android or whatever skin jobs are available. With Android that is possible.
39. Jayshmay (Posts: 82; Member since: 27 Mar 2011)
Who cares! You know your going to get a case anyway! Personally, I don't like spending $175 on an insurance replacement, so I use a DualTek case.
51. igorb81 (Posts: 31; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
I disagree. I prefer plastic materials since my phones always have been in cases. I would rather have a lighter phone than some fragile alluminum or glass anyday.
57. techaman (unregistered)
I wish they would talk with tech21 and make a body using D30 tech mixed with Kevlar or carbon tubes
54. techaman (unregistered)
I mean really we all know samsung is not stupid they would never release a gs5 flagship with 32bit both prime and standard would never be both plastic after all the people on the planet have said no to it.
68. XaErO (Posts: 254; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)
I believe plastic is good, but it should be of good quality and should give a more premium feel. But that's just my opinion.
I'm looking forward to what "New Generation Processor" Samsung will bring and how they really optimize "TouchWiz" for performance this time.
2. Feanor (Posts: 383; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)
Uh? What's the point of these two versions? Someone wanna shed some light on this?
16. Commentator (Posts: 2706; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
They have different processors and resolutions, so probably high-end vs mid-high-end.
52. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
The S4 had two editions - one for the U.S. LTE universe (SD600) and one for everywhere else (Exynos). The S5 iteration, if true, continues the separation. Although if the SD800 edition gets only a HD display, I suspect sales will suffer, as the 2014 flagship market seems to be setting expectations for QHD displays.
19. dratomic (Posts: 483; Member since: 09 Oct 2013)
more like 5s & 5c :)) copying apples move again.
if... this is true. which i dont think it is bcuz sammy wil surely use 64bit cpu for s5
ps i think note 3 is the best phone in the world so dont think of me as a sammy hater.
33. promise7 (Posts: 537; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
If this move is to copy Apple, then I don't think Samsung is doing it right. Apple, in my opinion, made the 5c to drive the 5s sales up. I don't think this move will work with a Android phone.
67. kabhijeet.16 (Posts: 713; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
Of course, you forgot that everything else that Apple copied.. like releasing a plastic phone after copying samsung coz samsung always releases flagship & its mini version..
4. emadshiny (Posts: 1142; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
I think there will be another difference between "prime" and "standard" and I really hope it happens. In my opinion, "prime" will and must be made of premium material.
5. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
Gotta be fake, i remember when they said that the note 3 would have 4 different modls and look how that turned out!....Face it whoever says these don't have a clue unless its evleaks
7. Feanor (Posts: 383; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)
Hmm... half true. Apparently soon we will have a Note Lite coming out. So, not 4 models but still at least two...
In this regard Samsung are still masters of confusion.
70. MistB (Posts: 581; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Still would rather taken them over any other Android OEM though.
11. __0__ (banned) (Posts: 242; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
We have 2 now , crapxynos and snapdragon
17. androiphone20 (Posts: 1602; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
Four note 3 variations are still very likely, I could count in the galaxy round and lite version rumors for now.
Sorry, is this rumor fake because it has nothing big for Samsung or because there's something relating to Apple? just curious
26. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3245; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
While the Round is essentially a Note 3 with a curved screen & no S-Pen, I wouldn't classify it as a Note variant. That S-Pen is a critical part of the formula.
42. Jayshmay (Posts: 82; Member since: 27 Mar 2011)
Yeah, evleaks can be taken seriously.
I'm sure a 5.25in screen and 1440p resolution is a safe bet though.
I don't care if it has 3GB's of RAM, or 4, so long as it's the newest & fastest k8nda RAM currently available.
13. GeekMovement (Posts: 1857; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
Not very exciting, but I'm not going to believe it until I see it anyway. I don't mind plastic at all though. If you like metal, go get HTC, if you like glass, get Sony.
18. teja171 (unregistered)
And if you want both, have a breath of fresh air.
24. GeekMovement (Posts: 1857; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
actually lol if you want both, you'd get the iPhone 5S or Sony Xperia Z1/Z1S/Z1Compact as the frame is metal/stainless steel/w/e.
46. teja171 (unregistered)
Then you can enjoy with those loose flaps, then crack your head if you lose them.
15. androiphone20 (Posts: 1602; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
See how 32bit kept on being highlighted in the article? I think the best place to put a fingerprint scanner though is right on the home button or on the front really. Trying to unlock your phone and reaching out to the back can be annoying. I just push down the home button then hold it for like a second, it works flawlessly...like a boss
20. willard12 (Posts: 1070; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
Aren't your fingers generally behind the phone when you are holding your phone naturally? Particularly the index finger used for fingerprinting. When texting, on the screen of the phone, it seems most people use their thumbs because the rest of their fingers are wrapped around the back of the phone. To each their own.
30. androiphone20 (Posts: 1602; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
I can say I use my thumb most of the time to unlock my phone and it still works flawlessly with 360° readability. IMHO it just feels inconveniently placed when its on the back, take for say the o-touch feature on the oppo N1its great but because it's on the back you have learn where the scanner is and you'll probably have to get through the trouble of putting a case on the phone too
21. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
I'm fine with plastic. I just wish they would revise Touchwiz to have a more of a stock Android look. Touchwiz in its current state is tacky and ugly.
36. MistB (Posts: 581; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
That's what they're doing if the latest UI is anything to go by. These bullsh1t rumours don't inspire me with confidence though, I don't trust this analyst or the crap half the korean media spout out, the only reliable sources for S5 related bits of info are Sammobile and EVleaks., That Eldar guy is also a notorious BSer.
43. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
Their latest UI looks to be moving further away from stock. I want them to move closer to stock.
It's an article from Apple Insider so it should be taken with a grain of salt.
69. MistB (Posts: 581; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Stock is boring though, I want a lighter UI by all means but it's very dull without rooting and adding your own modifications but the beauty of Android is that u don't have to be uniform by adapting the same look all round because Google laid out a look for it, similar to WP and IOS.
Differentiation please, similar to what Sony and HTC are doing.
44. Jayshmay (Posts: 82; Member since: 27 Mar 2011)
I have had the S4 since it came out, no lag, but it would be nice if Samsung out some effort into decreasing the amount of memory touchwiz takes up 8/9GB's is way, way too much! Especially when all they do is talk about 64GB S4's & Note 3's, but as far as I'm aware a 64GB S4 or Note 3 doesn't exist, it's just a bunch of talk from Samsung.
I think they should leave 16GB's for some other lower end models, and 32/64 versions for the S5 & Note 4. Screw 16GB's!
28. papss (unregistered)
Sooo SS is going the finger scanner route.. There's will be revolutionary I'm sure ;)
55. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2442; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
I guess I don't see how Apple's was revolutionary either. Their version is the way that most non-mobile fingerprint scanners work, place finger on the sensor and let the sensor read it, rather than the swipe method that started out on laptops. What they did was put it into a mobile device. They're taking an existing concept and applying it for their needs, it's not like they invented it.
Now their rumored embedded solar panels in the sapphire screen, that is innovative, because while solar panels have been done before, they were always a strip that served no purpose other than to charge/power the device, and took up space on the device. Integrating them into the screen doesn't waste any space while providing an in device charger. I am however wondering when we're gonna start to hear stories about the people who leave them on their dash in their car to charge and have an issue with the phone overheating or something like that.
29. nctx77 (Posts: 896; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
LOL! Sammy really?!? Is this what you got for 2014? Expect those numbers to continue to drop lol! .2 inch screen increases and spec bumps will not push phones off the shelf anymore. The Galaxy brand has ran its course. People want something different. People have realized that Galaxy devices are no different than the other Android phones with big screens. Factor in the fact that Apple is entering the big screen market and China mobile, samsung is in for a rough year. The galaxy gear is not helping LOL! That device was the nail in the coffin. It proved that Samsung has no clue when it's has no one to copy. Stick to washing machines and refrigerator!
32. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
The gear is not a bad device at all and the design is pretty good. Unfortunately, it has three big flaws - it can only be used with a few Samsung devices, it's expensive and it's not independent. It alerts you to a notification but you still have to take out your phone read it. It adds an unnecessary step.
45. Jayshmay (Posts: 82; Member since: 27 Mar 2011)
The Galaxy Gear is priced so damn high, I won't even begin to ponder it's usefulness!!!
49. willard12 (Posts: 1070; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
After the update, you can read notifications without taking out your phone....unless it is a long email. Expensive and only working with devices from the same manufacturer are acceptable conditions for the iwatch and all other apple devices.
35. wildfiregt (Posts: 117; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
#OMG #LOL #SAMSUCK #YOLO #Appleforever
seriously stop with those kiddish comments
You say that those numbers are just numbers but why do you argue that was all what can Samsung do ?
The phone ain't shown yet
34. Be_Mine (Posts: 29; Member since: 29 Dec 2013)
And they will probably sell us the standard model here in India with the same price...(again) Like they did with s4 and note 3...! :(
38. spasticpat (Posts: 78; Member since: 18 Dec 2012)
Didn't Samsung pretty much confirm that they were working on a 64-bit phone (which I'd assumed would be the GS5 since it's like a flagship phone and all)? If I read the article right (and forgive me if I didn't), he's saying both are 32-bit?