Just because Apple leads doesn't mean everyone is following
0. phoneArena posted on 23 Apr 2012, 17:33
We are very big proponents of giving credit where it is due, but that also means that we like to set the record straight when a company gets credit for more than it deserves. It's a very tricky line to walk, but one that we find most can't walk properly with Apple more often than any other company...
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81. Sniggly posted on 24 Apr 2012, 00:07 3 2
Which developer? When was the interview?
Is this just like the survey that claimed, according to you, that iPhone owners are more tech savvy?
That is to say, are you full of s**t again?
82. Whateverman posted on 24 Apr 2012, 00:09 3 2
Will you ever admitt that the iPhone is a copy of Blackberry, Windows and Palm? They all used grids before iOS, thus Apple must have copied those OSs as well right?
86. taco50 (banned) posted on 24 Apr 2012, 00:42 1 5
You're being ridiculous. You have to admit the iPhone turned the smartphone upside down and changed the way we interact with it even if you're not an iPhone fan.
Blackberry has almost gone out of business because of the iPhone and windows had to redesign their entire OS and had what 2% market share.
89. Sniggly posted on 24 Apr 2012, 02:21 4 2
I'm not saying the iPhone wasn't a game changer for the industry. It did act as a catalyst. Are you familiar with catalysts? They speed up chemical reactions, but don't cause them. The move to touchscreens and more intuitive UIs was going to happen anyway. We'll never know how long it would have taken, but it would have happened.
Blackberry has not gone out of business purely because of the iPhone. Android has eaten up Blackberry's market share as well, due in large part to its attractive offerings as a true alternative to the iPhone. Before Android hit Verizon, Blackberries were really it; Windows Mobile was largely a joke and Palm was nonexistent. And selling smartphones sucked as well. Then the DROID hit, which mostly changed how Verizon sold phones. I was there. I remember it. Verizon suddenly wanted to push smartphones, so they changed the commission structure and allowed Android to remain relatively unmolested compared to their treatment of all their other phones. You'll also note that high end feature phones fell by the wayside around the time that Android was introduced, on ALL of the carriers.
In other words, Android has been just as responsible for many of the industry changes going on in the past few years as well. The Android manufacturers have arguably taken bigger risks, introducing phones with much bigger screens than anyone thought practical, using odd design elements (the G1's keyboard hinge, the DROID X's camera hump) and they've managed to take Android from "also ran" to the dominant OS on the market, all by making the smartphone accessible in a way that RIM, Microsoft and even Apple all failed to do.
Now that's goddamn innovation.
93. mrochester (unregistered) posted on 24 Apr 2012, 03:15 0 4
I'd say Android has done a great job of filling out the bottom end of the market through manufacturers offering attractive and afforable devices. I'd say offering a smartphone alternative to feature phone users is Android's greatest strength (and innovation). Apple is much the same, but at the higher end of the market since they don't operate at the low end.
109. atheisticemetic posted on 24 Apr 2012, 10:23 3 0
i was there at the start as well and i agree wholeheartedly
if it wasnt for Android the Iphone 4s would be twice as crappy as it is now :)
136. jroc74 posted on 25 Apr 2012, 06:27 0 0
E X A C T L Y!!!
90. Whateverman posted on 24 Apr 2012, 02:21 5 0
Here's the thing, you come off as if you want EVERY comment to have some type of praise for the iPhone. You won't allow anyone to say anything positive about Android or negative about iOS, without you throwing a jab! People gave Apple all the praise it deserved in 2007 with the iPhone and in 2009 with the iPad. How long do you expect people to kneel at the Apple alter?
If you want to be there for all eternity, that is your choice...but they rest of us aren't going to praise Apple endlessly for something they did five years ago. The same way you refuse to give credit to anything that came before the iPhone. Do you give Motorola any props for making the first cell phone? Nope. How about IBM for making the first touchscreen phone? Or how about Handango or Get jar for being some of the first app stores? If your not going to constantly gives props to these companies for being innovators, don't expect everyone else to fall over themselves to praise Apple either.
105. eyephone (banned) posted on 24 Apr 2012, 07:54 2 1
Taco u keep loosing every debate. they
fandroids shut u up and then u disapear
108. Johnny_Mnemonic posted on 24 Apr 2012, 09:30 0 0
Taco I think should call your friend gallito for help jaja
124. gallitoking posted on 24 Apr 2012, 16:11 0 1
he does not need my help... as he speak the truth, Apple pushes the bar just like Michael said.. in looks.... no doubt about... the iphone is still a top dog in the cell phone industry even without a redesign in 2 years... people buy it because they like it.. that simple...few will leave , few will come, burt stil sells... still waiting for the iphone killer... announced back in 2007 I guess just as slow as their updates.. huh
116. jackhammeR posted on 24 Apr 2012, 12:06 0 0
iphone is not a smartphone..but you're right.
Samsung and android overall tried to invent something similar to apple's products and used their popularity in favour of themselves.
There is a great proof for that. Insane racing in order to achieve the crown "the highest pixel density in mobile industry"...or fluidity (there are flaws of course and apple must have sacrificed many things in order to keep this fluidity on steady level).
But smartphones existed before apple.
Iphone is not a smartphone...but again, it all depends on what will yoy call "a smartphone".
For me, it was Nokia and Symbian for a long, long time. SE has silly ui, simple and quite fast but nothing more. Symbian was much more versatile. LG experimented with S-Class ui which was a combination of apple's ui and shell.
Samsung has simple ui as well. They tried Symbian several times but it didn't work. Then, android came and holy war with apple slowly started.
Android developers needed to have something they could work on. Because apple made their own os, which was amazingly fluid and eye-candy, yet simple and effective enough for standard user (I'm not talking about restrictions..it's stupid and shouldn't be, but it's apple's policy and their way to keep the fluidity on a steady level and control their devices...and at the end, users too) it was natural it wouldn't take long time to copy that...or try to do something analogous.
135. jroc74 posted on 25 Apr 2012, 06:25 0 0
You do realize that the iPhone AND Android caused whats happening to RIM?
Windows did wait too late to change the OS for phones, again...whats happening to them is because of the iPhone AND Android.
98. protozeloz posted on 24 Apr 2012, 06:41 2 0
Wow I've proven you wrong so many times is really stupid you come with that crap
100. remixfa posted on 24 Apr 2012, 07:11 3 0
you dont ever expect our little broken record of a troll to ever change his tune do ya?
104. protozeloz posted on 24 Apr 2012, 07:39 1 0
he should at least come with something new for a change, I mean the same old boring lies? geez he should be more creative
141. remixfa posted on 26 Apr 2012, 12:03 0 0
he cant. Because if he actually read up and got an education on the things he tries to talk about, he couldnt possibly be a troll unless he just flat out ignored everything he read. trolls of that magnitude stem from ignorance, not from intelligence.
67. networkdood posted on 23 Apr 2012, 21:19 1 0
In my household lies an wi-fi ipad, iphone 4S Verizon version, AT&T wifi only iphone 3GS and the 4th ipod touch.
In the meantime, I have owned windows 5/6.5 phones and 3 android phones.
I just do not see APPLE as innovative.
I mean, who in their right mind/s comes out with a phone that does not include MMS or cut and paste? If APPLE came out with a bigger screen and included basic functions necessary for my day-to-day activities, then I may have purchased one. +
Who knows maybe the iphone 4GS (and, you all know that is what it will be named) will be the best phone ever.
Apple is smart at marketing, and their app store brings in the money by the boat load, but I am not looking for a phone that will require me to spend even more money to run it. Perhaps, that is where jailbreaking comes into play.
69. smartphone posted on 23 Apr 2012, 21:39 2 0
Ok I will consider this article unbiased if your next articles are "Nokia leads" and talk about camera tech and " Samsung leads" with talks about amoled technology.
Does Apple thinks us fool when they advertise 325 ppi as retina display and now they are calling 250 ppi as retina. Poor marketing.
96. TylerGrunter posted on 24 Apr 2012, 04:11 2 0
They don't, "retina" is a marketing word to show when human sight is not able to see any pixelation in a screen.
That perception depends on the distance, not only ppi. So for phones it needs a bigger ppi as you look at them at a shorter distance, while for tablets the ppi can be lower as the distance is a bit bigger. (300 ppi vs 250 ppi)
EG: for computers you would need even less (let's say 200 ppi) and for TVs even lower as you watch them from further away (probably full HD TVs can be considered retina even they only have 50 ppi as you watch them from 3/4 meters away, but I didn't calculate the numbers, so I can't assure).
127. smartphone posted on 24 Apr 2012, 23:03 0 0
Thanks for the clarification, I am sorry for the harsh tone.
137. TylerGrunter posted on 26 Apr 2012, 04:55 0 0
Don't even mention it, loads of people get confused by the concept, as it has been mainly applied to just phones and they think "retina = 300 ppi or more".
So the mistake is quite undestandable.
70. cellphonator posted on 23 Apr 2012, 21:42 1 0
I enjoyed your article Michael, honestly I don't know where all this disapproval is coming from. It's plain disrespect for no (or not enough) reasons.
I prefer Android but I can't see a TRULY biased article at the point of insulting you. Not acceptable.
73. corporateJP posted on 23 Apr 2012, 21:51 1 3
For my piece of subjective journalism today, I am writting a story on how somebody should have broke every bone in Alex Rodriguez' body the day before he passed Ken Griffey, Jr. on the all-time home run list.
Feel free to thumb this down, but if you do, you support lames and steroid use.
Plus, you're probably reading this on your iPad 3 (because that's what it is, em0).
74. hutty24 posted on 23 Apr 2012, 22:25 0 2
What about Google fonders say android wasent s**t to them till they seen the apple making bank and realy making the world moble off there s**tty phone store moives iTunes,then the make there s**tty phone play store and all the play apps to try and make as much money out of it as they can and soon they will be just as bad as apple next on that line is windows phone which wants that too after seeing that bank and what way the world is pulling but will all ways be dead last then Google will change there policies all together an apple google will eat up all the rest making the top smartphones and then there will be two when there can be only one when it comes to money and companys funny my nexus new that last word when I hit the c button
75. dmn666 posted on 23 Apr 2012, 22:25 2 0
It's kinda funny how the term 'PPI' became mainstream after iphone 4 release. I remember owing an Xperia X1 in 2008 (with more than 300 ppi) and also an iphone 3G at the same time (with horrible ppi). Whether other tech companies are following their lead or not, most of the journalists are surely following apple's lead (nothing against you Michael)- lol.
97. AppleConspiracy posted on 24 Apr 2012, 05:40 0 0
Here lies the answer to this issue. It's not really about technology, but signification, the purely social dimension that reflects the Zeitgeist and strong beliefs in the "prophet".
77. ilia1986 posted on 23 Apr 2012, 23:42 2 1
Excellent article, Michael!
However, to quote you: "Similarly, eventually it goes the other way and Apple will adopt innovations that other companies thought were more important, like the notification tray."
The problem is that Apple - unlike other companies I know of - is deliberately holding back software and hardware features when releasing a new product, in order to push those to a slightly newer version of that product the next year. They can do this because of this closed ecosystem.
This can't be done on Android. Even if Google decides to do something which is unique to the Galaxy Nexus, the millions of users will pick up the source code, tinker with it and make it available to other devices as well.
Another problem with Apple, is that unlike other companies - it is willing to shove it's philosophies way way too deep onto it's users' throats. Design is important, and making beautiful products is nice and all, but should this really come at the expense of functionality? Especially if for some users that functionality is dreadily missing? No. It shouldn't. Jut like you - a regular person - won't buy a microwave which can only cook up to 2 minutes, but is beautifully designed instead of a regular microwave which might be a little less pretty - so shouldn't a regular user buy an iPhone instead of an Android phone, an iPad instead of an Android tablet, and a Mac instead of a PC. They do this because..
Apple's third problem - insane brand loyalty. Everyone knows that a significant portion of Apple's consumers buy Apple products just because they are Apple products, and as such they automatically percieve them as high quality top-of-the-line ones. Brand loyalty should be justified only when there is a reason to justify it. Otherwise it just gets in the way. Blind brand loyalty is even more pathetic, since consumer electronic devices among any other consumer product - require a *thorough* research prior purchasing. You CAN'T automatically trust any single company to deliver any single product which will always have all the features that you might want in it. The exception to this is of course Android, but even then you must carefully study the market, anticipate what is to come, and when, and buy the right hardware at the right time.
In conclusion: for a company which sacrifices time and time and time and time again throughout history (read the bio on Steve Jobs) function over form and design - Apple got WAY WAY WAY too much going for it, way too much cash and way too much brand loyalty and market share.
85. MichaelHeller posted on 24 Apr 2012, 00:38 3 2
1) Every company holds back features. Google does it less than most because it is more willing to release half-baked features, but every company holds things back in order to focus on other things. Apple does like to cultivate an air of having a higher standard though, so it seems like it holds back a bit longer. It's a character choice.
2) Every company forces its philosophy on the customer, it's just that you don't seem to agree with Apple's philosophy so you find fault with that. Google tends to release a lot of unfinished ideas, and only recently decided that design was a worthwhile focus. Some people don't like that, and prefer the more matured experience of Apple or Windows Phone, even if it is lacking in some functionality.
3) Insane brand loyalty is actually a huge plus, and something that every company wishes it could have. People don't want to have to do work before buying something, so as long as they know that the device will be good enough, that's all that matters. Apple products may not be perfect all the time, but they are always good enough and rarely have major problems.
88. ilia1986 posted on 24 Apr 2012, 01:31 2 2
1. But why should they decide what the standard is? The industry decides what the standard is.
2. No company other than Apple in the consumer electronics business says to it's customer "You don't know anything. WE know what you want. And you'l only do as WE say." Not even Microsoft. That's less of a philosophy and more of a dictatorship. In addition - I really fail to see how a platform which lacks a lot of features compared to it's competitors whilst still having almost the same problems (iOS lags\crashes as well. It's a fact.) can be called matured.
3. "People don't want to have to do work before buying something, so as long as they know that the device will be good enough, that's all that matters." Good enough? Good enough for what? I can't know what's good enough for me. NOBODY - including Apple can't know or determine what's good enough for them. What if in a week I'll discover some wicked video on YouTube showing me a completely new and insanely useful tweak, that can be implemented on Android? What then? I already bought an iPhone because I thought it was 'good enough' for me. It doesn't work. When it comes to computers (mobile, desktop, tablets, whatever) - you HAVE to make a market research, because if you decide that something is 'good enough' for you, and that something cannot be changed and tweaked afterwards, and something new, cool and useful comes up like it always does - you're screwed. Like I am.
91. AppleConspiracy posted on 24 Apr 2012, 02:49 2 0
The first rule of consumerism is: people don't know what they want. They only want you to tell them what they want.
Most manufaturers are getting it wrong - they want to find what masses want, and they find themselves following the one who decides to be the leader.
That's why Apple's dictatorship is so succesful. Masses allways need a leader.
Of course today this is morally and ethically unacceptable, because we should imperatively live in a liberal-democratic world, so there are frustrated people like Michael Heller who deny that leadership fact through relativisation and atomisation. They find their cure in statistics and technicalities, ignoring the obvious. However they still feel the urge to make things "right".
95. ilia1986 posted on 24 Apr 2012, 03:55 1 1
Oh well how unfortunate is that, according to Apple, that we live in an age of YouTube and the Internet, then, since by imposing this closed sealed-off ecosystem onto it's consumers, Apple not only controls what they (the consumers want), but also what they can ever get. Those who do care to get out of the iBubble and go to YouTube, or in fact any site covering Android features will find so much stuff that is available on Android, and not available to the iPhone, that it's really mind boggling.
No company should decide for it's consumers what they (the consumers) want. At most it should offer a guiding hand and prodivde distinct suggestions, but nothing beyond that. And that's precisely what Android does. It gives you a good UI to work with, but should you desire to change anything - you can do that. Because there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to!
This isn't just about morality and etchics. It's about what you get for your money. A device which only does X, and will continue to do X until Apple says otherwise, or a device which can do so much more than X from the beginning, and even if Y comes out, and this device is not "officially supported", there will be people who will port Y to this device to make it work anyway. Why? Open Source, that's why.
And what if Apple decides not to implement Y regardless? And you won't even know about that because hey - Apple never tells you which features will it implement and when, if at all. And what happens if you really love this Y feature? Your device - your hardware is perfectly capable of running it in theory, but because Apple says 'No' - you're stuck with just X!
102. mrochester (unregistered) posted on 24 Apr 2012, 07:31 0 0
You buy a device that allows you to do Y?
Not every device has to do every single thing; this is the whole point of the article! Apple focuses on giving customers WX & Y whereas Google focuses on giving customers XY & Z. There is some overlap, but there's no one product that does WXY & Z.
107. ilia1986 posted on 24 Apr 2012, 08:10 0 0
Precisely! Not every device has to do every single thing! But when you have an Open Sourse OS - like Android for example - your device can do virtually anything!
So in your terms - Android does do X, Y, Z AND W - and if it doesn't at the moment - there are a million people with programming skills making sure that Android can do W as well.
Open source. It's important.
117. mrochester (unregistered) posted on 24 Apr 2012, 12:16 0 0
That's my point though; Android currently doesn't do W, X, Y & Z, which is no different from Apple also currently not doing W, X, Y & Z. Being open source hasn't changed that over the last 3.5 years. For all we know, Apple could release a device that does W, X, Y & Z long before any Android device is capable!
How long do I have to wait for Android to do W? Open source is all very well and good in theory, but if no one is actually making W, what does it matter whether something is open source or not? Who do I ask to make W for Android?
112. MichaelHeller posted on 24 Apr 2012, 10:45 1 1
1) Who is deciding standards? What standards are we even talking about? Standards shift all the time. Apple's standard is to have displays where you can't see individual pixels. Android manufacturers have been aiming for a standard of 720p on handsets and now 1080p on tablets. Google wants NFC, software buttons, and LED notification lights to be standard, but not all manufacturers agree. Google has wanted the cloud to be standard for years now. Trying to claim that Apple is setting standards just feeds into the misconception that Apple is the industry leader, when it isn't for most things.
2) It's not a dictatorship if the people choose to live under it. You don't like Apple's ways, that's fine, but there are people out there who like to have the trains run on time, even if the trains aren't as modern as the competition.
3) Just stop man. You have high standards, and you are willing to put in work to find the right device for you. I do the same thing, but just look around at your friends and family. How many of those people really bother to do the same work? You can help them as much as you want, but you aren't going to change their nature. Some people just don't care as much about tech, and don't really understand the value, just like with everything else. I don't care about doing the research about what type of milk is the best. I just buy what I know because I know it and it's good enough. Most people are the same way with tech.
As tech becomes more a part of people's lives, that will slowly change, but you raging against one company isn't helping anything.
94. mrochester (unregistered) posted on 24 Apr 2012, 03:27 0 0
Firstly, great article Michael. It does a good job of highlighting how all companies innovate in some way or another, and how these ideas are cross-polinated.
1) Agreed. And it's not necessarilly a case of holding back features 'just because', there's often a technical or cost limitation to doing so. As you said, we probably could have had high PPI screens 10 years ago, but their cost and space requirements would probably have been so huge that they wouldn't have been practical (or affordable!).
2) Bingo. All products from all companies are influenced by that company's values and objectives. The beauty of having competition means we can pick a product that most closely matches our own values and objectives.
3) This is so true. Having customers who love your products and trust your brand is a massive boon. This is the ultimate goal of all companies. And you usually achieve it by making good products at a good price, backed up with excellent service. If you don't have the trust of the customer, you are failing at one or more of the above.
83. anywherehome posted on 24 Apr 2012, 00:10 2 0
iOS still don't know what innovations are:
so it is a pity there is no competition for Android :(
87. AppleConspiracy posted on 24 Apr 2012, 01:10 4 1
Michael H., when you have 80+ comments in 7 hours that means you have provoked the holly war.
That means everyone IS following.
Don't you get it? Like I said, everything is aestheticized, that is, everything is turned into sign, it's not a technology and innovation issue anymore. It's about social identification.
I could prove that you are wrong in this article, however this is not appropriate medium for such a substantial text.
BTW I'm honored to be your inspiration :-.)
113. MichaelHeller posted on 24 Apr 2012, 11:09 2 1
Writing an article like this and putting it out here doesn't really prove all that much, because as with your arguments that led to this article, there are outside factors. Everyone here is following, because everyone here is dialed in and super passionate about technology. This is an echo chamber. All I would have to do is write one line, "Apple is good, but not great" and the swarms would come.
The point is that just because readers here are passionate and engaged and have immovable viewpoints doesn't mean that's how the actual ecosystem works. Yes, when you talk about fanboys, it is about social identification, but as much as we may want to view it differently in our echo chamber, the vast majority of consumers are not fanboys.
I mean come on, the point of the article is that yes, Apple may be leading as far as displays, but other companies have other priorities. Consumers have other priorities. And, because of all the external factors, "leading" is more an outcome of opportunity and focus rather than any real company level genius.
But still, I get called biased towards Apple.
Fanboys read what they want to read, and buy what they want to buy in an effort to make themselves happy by reinforcing their own world view. I don't delude myself into thinking I can change that for the most die-hard, but there are always a few who understand what I'm trying to do, and I find solace in those voices.
119. AppleConspiracy posted on 24 Apr 2012, 14:08 1 0
I totally agree with you when you say that the vast majority of people are NOT fanboys.
As a matter of fact, fanboys, especially iFanboys, are NOT the reason why Apple is globally followed.
The REAL following is among ordinary, disinterested consumers who don't have much or any knowledge about consumer technology, and certainly don't belong to some brand camp.
However, this is why situation is even worse: they are completely integrated in the aesthetical and technological paradigm, everything operates at unconcious level. They just KNOW that there is iPhone and iPad to buy. They have no critical dimension and they are unaware of everything that constitutes the criteria for choice. Not because they don't have information - but because they don't want to deal with it. As you said yourself: this is not their main priority in life.
So the question of choice is a little too bit too problematic: there is no actual choice among ordinary consumers - they just absorb the paradigm and behave in that manner.
I will try to illustrate this on a known problem: there are religious fanatics, whether they are Christian, Muslim or whatever else - they passionately and litterally explore the Word of God in Bible, Qu'Ran and so on, and they know everything about religion, without critical reflection. Their faith is based on antagonism of the two most powerful religious camps - their faith is stronger when they hate another camp!
Can you see the similarity with Apple/Goggle (Samsung) camps? Everytime you mention this antagonism, swarms come in...
Of course, this is dedicated a medium for them - we talk about the Word of God on this site - but we know that majority of people out there are not fanatics!
So, who are those "other milions (even bilions) of people"?
Well, they are the "ordinary believers", that is, a passive practitioners of faith that are just absorbed into the system - they don't study Bible and Quran passionately, nor they have all the knowledge of faith with the obsessive dimension in which they find their identification. However, they go to church every sunday, they Christen they children, they confess, they pray - it pretty much automatized life in the manner of where we were born and raised, we just know that those are our values that we should respect.
And of course - the same phenomenon is among the ordinary consumers - they practice the religion of Apple, becuse this is in fact the only religion. It's the way of life, not jus one of the products. Every other product actually emerged in its concept from Apple, and in product, graphic and multimedia design and global aesthetic - everything is calibrated to Apple. When everybody talk about Retina and PPI, that's a value we gained from Apple - it's not something spontaneous, and certainly not because we achieved this tech just now...
121. MichaelHeller posted on 24 Apr 2012, 14:15 0 1
So your entire point can be boiled down to: humans will be human?
(forgive me, but I love brevity and clarity.)
People are lazy and want things to be easy. Regardless of if other companies offer an easier solution, Apple has branded itself as the company that makes products that are easy to use, especially if you don't like technology all that much. It's a genius strategy really.
It's a wonder that other companies don't get it. Everyone wants to prove that their product can do the most, or has all of these features, but Apple always markets its products as easy first and capable second.
123. AppleConspiracy posted on 24 Apr 2012, 14:31 0 0
Well, as a professional product designer, I know that most of European design schools and studios know very well what makes a good product, and the greatest mystery is who the hell are those designers employed in large tech companies?
They obviously don't know anything about it. And even worse, we learned to design "the Apple way" long before first iMac was presented in 1998. All those rules: simplicity, functionality, user experience, smoothness, intutivity - it's all in the texbooks of design for the last 50 or so years (from the advent of post-war modernism).
As a matter of fact, when was in college, we usually conceptualized devices very similar to Apple's products, both in form and in functional concept.
And now, it seems that only Steve Jobs allowed this approach in his company. Of course he succeded, it's a no brainer. We know how to design product well. We just needed the money and opportunities that Steve Jobs had.
And now SJ is suddenly a genius, together with Johnathan Ive and whole Apple.
And everyone else is not, there are almost stupid on purpose.
In fact, this strange fact is too perfect for me to believe it - and that's why I decided to create an Apple Conspiracy project. Because it really looks like a conspiracy.
111. strikercho posted on 24 Apr 2012, 10:33 1 4
Dear Phonearena, as I previously advised you, please stop trying to do some analysis, comments and basically everything connected with expert thinking. Phonearena is a site, good for checking phone specs and direct, I repeat, direct comparisons and of course news. No offence, but in the companies that manufacture phones work far more educated people, both engineers and economists. It is pointless for a site like this to try to do some overstrained brain efforts. Nobody expects this from you. This is not BBC or CNN after all. :)
114. MichaelHeller posted on 24 Apr 2012, 11:10 0 1
Thanks for letting us know that no matter what we do, we will never be able to change. It's comforting to know that it's all pointless...
120. jackhammeR posted on 24 Apr 2012, 14:15 0 0
to all of you...writter too.
enjoy the videos.
122. MichaelHeller posted on 24 Apr 2012, 14:21 0 1
I saw that yesterday, but it's kind of pointless. First off, the guy doesn't mention anywhere that Android 4.0 (which is at the heart of many of his points) hasn't been pushed out to most devices yet. Secondly, a solid 75% of his points can all be filed under the same "customization" heading. Yes, we know that Android is fully customizable and iOS is not, but at some point he really needs to use more examples. There are some good points in the video, but there are far better explanations out there.
128. jackhammeR posted on 25 Apr 2012, 01:50 0 0
just for fun:) I'm not keen on neither android nor ios
125. cellphonejunky posted on 24 Apr 2012, 19:39 1 0
I'll probably get thumbed down out the a$$ for this, but great article. And BTW one of the most UNbiased articles I've read from anybody who writes about their favorite platforms, to keep equallity in credit between all platforms while having an article about one specific one requires some really carefull wording.
And lastly Michael, don't respond to trolls all you're doing with that is giving fuel to the troll fire, fighting hatred is the same thing as fighting the human condition, the only way to reduce it is either by moderation or ignoring it, like talking to an obnoxious child, which by the way, alot of trolls are under 18.
Again great article.
126. Nithence posted on 24 Apr 2012, 21:07 0 0
I agree with you at some point that we as a mobile fan should have a fair look into each brand of product. But i do not agree with ur opinion about over pricing product. From real example: we all know that the price of iphone is far more expensive than other brands but most people still love and buy iphone. From my point of view, Apple has done their best to catch the interest of majority of people. They also understand very well that most people think about quality before the price. So we are as a mobile fan should just pick what we love and live with it. No need to complaint with s.th that we never fully understand about it. For your information: i am using Sony Xperia, kind of falling in love with it. thanks