Judge sets September 20th date for hearing on preliminary injunctions; Apple is grateful
0. phoneArena 24 Aug 2012, 22:33 posted on
While the verdict has been spelled out in terms of dollars and cents, there still is the matter of Apple's request for injunctions on certain Samsung phones; Apple has until the 29th to file a motion, Samsung has 14 days to respond followed by 2 more days for Apple to once again reply...
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1. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
I'm sure that's what Apple wants everybody to believe.
13. Hammerfest (Posts: 382; Member since: 12 May 2012)
exactly, I mean did anyone read "At Apple, we value originality and innovation" and NOT end up laughing their metaphorical a$$es off? EDIT: besides blind apple fanboys of course
from a company who owns more patents that are based on PRIOR ART then any other company in existence, BULL$HI# is the first word that comes to mind
22. fanboy (Posts: 38; Member since: 07 Mar 2011)
The company says it values innovation and originality
53. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
"we value originality and innovation"
but buys a company to acquire an innovative tech. Apple didn't innovate. It buys something innovative for it's own good. It's not original.
And i really hate the fact that apple's suing a company because the designs of their devices looks similar. I mean, where's the innovation in there?
Originality in icons?
Oh god. As if they are original with those icons. Nokia used gears for representing "settings" way before iPhone was being planned.
What's wrong in this system is the fact that those patents regarding the design of icons were granted to apple..
I would give credit to apple if they used the "pinch to zoom" function. I think they are the ones who started it. But please, stop being a monopolistic company.. Don't sue everyone.. If you love innovation, a competition is needed. Without competition, there's no innovation. Why innovate if no one's challenging your product right?
80. Ravail (Posts: 182; Member since: 14 Oct 2011)
Lol i dare Apple to take a shot at Nokia...
2. Savage (unregistered)
The only device which will be found infringing would be the SGS1. Apple names any more devices, it would be bloody unfair.
15. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Remember a couple of months back when HTC had its phones stopped at U.S. Customs? It was because of a ban order that the ITC issued. Remember how long sales of the banned HTC phones were suspended? About 2 weeks. 3 at the most. Know what was done to get the phones un-banned? Software changes were installed that were non-infringing.
Guess what Sammy is going to do? They probably will include a list of revised software that is going to be installed on the infringing handsets the day after the motion is filed that does not infringe the patents they were found to infringe.
Anyone with a current Sammy phone on the list of infringing phones might want to seriously consider disabling the OTA update function until this all blows over.
20. Savage (unregistered)
Yeah. That is a shame, Apple getting such trivial patents. An OTA update will set things right. But it is necessary to fix the broken patent system. Apple already has a patent for Google-Glasses like device and they ain't even started working on it.
33. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
Dude, HTC phones clearly infringe upon the iPhone. Especially with the original Desire. A chrome earpiece, and metal buttons with engraved channels for LED lighting, totally Apple technology. The Evo LTE, obviously a copy of the iPhone 4s with it's metallic back cover and EVO red kickstand on the back. The One X? HUMONGOUS COPY OF IPHONES MAN. Especially with the all polycarbonate back and lack of any physical buttons beyond power and volume controls.
Remember, it's about values.
35. wendygarett (unregistered)
yup htc is a copycat :)
38. tedkord (Posts: 9685; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Now, what were we talking about?
43. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
51. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
It would seem that Wendy is going to need to post a 'proof-of-life' profile pic... ;-)
47. Ohrules (Posts: 327; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)
55. MartyK (Posts: 743; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
Right!, I have to give her a thumb up on the pic alone...lol
41. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Hi, Wendy! Let me ask you a question - do you confuse your HTC phone with your collection of iPhones? I mean like when you pick up the HTC and start to use it, are you thinking you are using iMessage to send a text to one of your friends?
46. wendygarett (unregistered)
Actually not at all :)
I never use the imessage my friend
It just that the pop up animation (i don't really know how to describe that) is so similar compare with iPhone...
50. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
What pop-up animation are you referring to? Which app is producing the animation? Sense? Or?
52. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Wendy, I am not trying to push you on what is similar between the HTC and iPhone. Just trying to understand what it is that you think is similar.
63. wendygarett (unregistered)
I don't know what to say, most are follow android but just that part make me feels like using the iphone. Every time I click settings make me feels more like using the iphone
64. wendygarett (unregistered)
Im sorry doug, maybe i feel nervous first time using the android. But I will get used to it :)
65. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
unless something's changed, isnt iOS's settings in a light blue/dark blue motif? How does HTCs settings menu remind you of that?
66. wendygarett (unregistered)
of course not the colour. What i mean is, by the time you press the icon, the animation pop out from the middle of the screen, just like iphone with the faster speed so you won't notice
54. rf1975 (Posts: 254; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
HTC was making nice windows phone for Qtek, imate etc. They newer make copycat product like Shamsung. Shamsung makes copycat product almost for all successful product that other company makes.
40. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Not any more. If the HTC phones infringed Apple's patents that were covered under the ITC order, they would still be sitting in shipping containers in U.S. Customs warehouses.
44. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
No man, we all know that HTC is infringing on Apple patents. Take a close look at the fact that you can pinch to zoom, and how the overscroll animation, especially in Sense 4, is an obvious iOS copy.
On the hardware side, note the display. The colors are accurate and calibrated, and the glass rolls down to the plastic to make the glass end without an edge. The display has a resolution high enough to be unable to distinguish pixels at most ranges. That's something that only Apple is allowed to do, even if they haven't done it yet.
75. Savage (unregistered)
I hope you are being sarcastic.
82. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
Note the ;).
Now, what is this sarcasm you speak of?
79. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10407; Member since: 14 May 2012)
I seriously hope you were being sarcastic.
83. Hunt3rj2 (Posts: 396; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
No no, I have to be completely serious. Apple is the only innovator in the history of the United States. Henry Ford didn't make mass produced cars, Apple did. Tesla didn't make AC electricity, Apple did.
74. ivanko34 (Posts: 617; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)
It is not really justice but protectionism
No chance for samsung to win a trial against apple if the jury are americans
3. bantheiphonedotcom (banned) (Posts: 28; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)
'The company says it values innovation and originality and applauds the court for sendng the message that stealing isn't right'
What a bunch of hypocrites....
30. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
apple's attitude is to steal from others but when others starts to steal from them, they would get mad and sue everyone.
It's on apple's history. They steal some ideas and when someone took a hint from those ideas, they would get mad.
84. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
I would love to see when Apple loses a patent lawsuit for the company to come out and say 'The company says it values innovation and originality and applauds the court for sendng the message that stealing isn't right' in their disclosure.. or even use the same exact paragraph just change the company.. and put an obligatory wink ;)
4. frydaexiii (Posts: 1425; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
Oh well, Good luck America. Enjoy your iProducts while the rest of the world advances with Android. I hope it was worth it.
5. bantheiphonedotcom (banned) (Posts: 28; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)
I live in America and I never plan on buying iproducts again.
8. frydaexiii (Posts: 1425; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
You won't have a choice soon enough. The only phone you could probably get is an iPhone in the near future.
10. bantheiphonedotcom (banned) (Posts: 28; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)
no, I will still be able to get a phone - I have connections. :-)
14. bantheiphonedotcom (banned) (Posts: 28; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)
lol, -1 for finding away around the ban and getting a non-iphone? Must be an iTroll lurching.
24. nicholassss (Posts: 368; Member since: 10 May 2012)
I'd smuggle phones over the border with you, man.
26. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Windows phones, used phones, imported international versions, plus the ones that were found to NOT be infringing (GS3)
34. wendygarett (unregistered)
Im waiting the bb10 instead of iphone
42. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Out of curiosity, what moved you away from the new iPhone and toward BB10? I am truly curious. You seemed so full of anticipation toward the new iPhone in some of your posts.
68. wendygarett (unregistered)
i will definitely get the iphone but not this year. Im saving the money to buy bb10 1st
37. facelessbelief (Posts: 13; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
Will never buy an Iphone or other Iproduct. I will go cell phone less rather then buy an Iphone.
81. zibbyzib2000 (Posts: 221; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
Are you stupid or something? This isn't Apple vs. Android. It's Apple vs. Samsung. It doesn't really affect the Android OS at all. This lawsuit is how the Samsung Android interface looks similar to that of iOS.
6. hung2900 (Posts: 941; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
Rounded rectangular and zooming (double-tapping and pinching)! What a innovation!
31. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
So how come you didn't invent it earlier? Hmmm.
So what stopped you?
57. MartyK (Posts: 743; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
The reason why he didn't was...wait...wait....wait...
BECASUE IT WAS ALREADY INVENTED ...
7. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
This is not about copying or stealing. This is all about American way of delivering justice ... they believe in killing outsiders w/o reason (remember the dialog in Rush Hour 3? ). Samsung is an outsider here ...
In America u can patent silly things like "Yoga Posture" and who knows even postures in loo.
9. bantheiphonedotcom (banned) (Posts: 28; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)
that is a good point - strange how their own country banned some their products recently, but I believe the government views companies such as Walmart and APPLE untouchable and gives them much leeway in how the operate business.
11. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
They just don't give leeway on American soil to Walmart but also try and push them in countries like India where there's stiff opposition to entry of Walmart. Walmart is not meant for India but yet underhand dealings are repeatedly being attempted through politicians with vested interests on both sides. Same applies to GMO companies like Mosantao et al. it all boils down to who funds whom during elections :)
12. bantheiphonedotcom (banned) (Posts: 28; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)
great points - here in the states our government has always been underhanded with other governments forcing capitalism/our ideals on other countries/cultures.
27. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Check on case of patent being granted on "Basmati" to Rice Tech Inc in 1997 which was done in blatant violation of "TRIPS". So if patent office violates intl treaties to benefit the personal profits of few greedy corporates then there's something definitely not in proper order and all this is GREED driven than sanity driven :)
Sorry for being off-topic but was needed to defend my point of view.
58. MartyK (Posts: 743; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
Especially when Apple atty, said in his closing argument," Don't let THEM take it from US"... in which we all know what that subliminal statement means here in the USA.
If Samsung was Smart they will go back and file copy infringment on Apple over the F700 in S.Korea and with the WTO..but make sure they do it in their home country...because here in the States ( sorry to say this)..they have no chance!!...now Google has a great chance of winning.
59. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
samsung just won an injunction against all iphone/ipad products in korea. what else do they need? lol
16. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5710; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
man i hope Googlerola makes Apple sorry for this...
18. frydaexiii (Posts: 1425; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
Yeah, all companies are American, so at least the court will be fair. If they're not...well, we all know who paid them not to be.