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Judge in U.K. says HTC doesn't infringe on Apple patents, calls three Apple patents invalid

0. phoneArena 04 Jul 2012, 12:08 posted on

It's becoming increasingly apparent that one court's infringement is another court's non-event; in the U.K., Judge Christopher Floyd ruled that HTC did not infringe on four Apple patents, saying that three of the patents were invalid...

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posted on 04 Jul 2012, 12:16 32

1. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Good news!

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 12:23 25

3. sorcio46 (Posts: 435; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


Fantastic News ! At least in Europe we do something against the big iPatent troller !

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 15:21 5

32. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Yes Europe does! "three of apples patents invalid" more like at least 33 are i'd say!

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 16:51 5

38. A.P.P.L.E-R.O.Y.A.L.L.Y (banned) (Posts: 4; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


True.....

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 17:28 5

42. wendygarett (unregistered)


British smart as always..

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 17:52

46. MISTER-H (banned) (Posts: 87; Member since: 28 May 2012)


good bad ugly

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 20:28 2

52. Otterbox (banned) (Posts: 71; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)


Justice not being served isn't good news.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 20:39 7

56. GellerDoesDallas (Posts: 50; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)


The Judge disagrees with you and Apple, accept the loss ibot.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 22:00 2

64. Otterbox (banned) (Posts: 71; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)


Justice is the only loss here. Justice against patent infringement.

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 04:25

98. HTCFreak (Posts: 156; Member since: 17 Jul 2010)


Haha "accept the loss" When Apple wins, nobody accepts the loss, but when apple loses, you tell him to accept the loss?

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 21:38 5

61. tedkord (Posts: 12311; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


No, its not. That's why the Galaxy Nexus ban has so many bummed. This story is excellent news, however. It's nice to see commn sense triumph over patent trolling. Kind of a feel good story.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 23:31 1

75. Otterbox (banned) (Posts: 71; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)


Well Europe isn't always bright when it comes to laws as you can see with the article. If justice was severed, Apple's requests would have been accepted.

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 00:09 6

86. tedkord (Posts: 12311; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


If justice were perfect, Apple's stolen and overly broad and obvious patents would have been laughed out of the patent office.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 22:17 5

67. roscuthiii (Posts: 2226; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Justice has determined the patents were invalid. There can be no infringement against invalid patents. Justice has been served by correcting a mistake in that those patents never should have been granted.
The only bad news or loss here is to your bruised biased ego living vicariously through a corporate entity.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 23:32 1

76. Otterbox (banned) (Posts: 71; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)


The only thing that is invalid is companies like HTC and Samsung violating patents but not wanting to pony up the royalties.

It's about protecting business and keeping the market fair.

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 01:52 3

90. thinking (Posts: 130; Member since: 19 Jan 2012)


As far as I can see, Sammy and HTC have not violated patents. Some of those patents should not have been there and some others are cases where the same feature has been incorporated. That is not stealing. If I make my own bicycle using my own wheel and axle and others, that is not the same as stealing your bicycle. And in case you have been following the news, you'd realise that Apple was not the creator of the universe and just last week, they were found to have stolen some patented technology and incorporated them in the iPhone and iPad.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 23:54 4

82. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


So....something ruled against Apple ...is wrong huh? Its only right when its in favor of Apple?

Figures...

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 23:48 1

80. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


In countries that don't have strong IP rights, you won't find innovating companies. The two go hand in hand. In America, we value property rights and that's why we have so many start-ups and one of the highest per capital based on GDP.

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 01:55 2

91. thinking (Posts: 130; Member since: 19 Jan 2012)


The real innovating companies are in Europe and Asia. There are a few in the US, too. The UK, and not the US, is one of the strongest backers of IP rights. You can be jailed in the Uk for downloading a pirated movie.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 12:22 32

2. tedkord (Posts: 12311; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


The British have always been know for their dry humor, stiff upper lips, politeness and tea. We can add common sense to that list, now.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 13:55 3

26. TheRetroReplay (Posts: 254; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)


I could not agree with you more

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 20:29 2

53. Otterbox (banned) (Posts: 71; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)


Apparently turning a blind eye to laws being broken.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 20:38 5

55. Ravail (Posts: 182; Member since: 14 Oct 2011)


I smell an apple troll!

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 22:01 2

65. Otterbox (banned) (Posts: 71; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)


I am only saying what's right.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 22:51 5

69. Gsmalltheway (Posts: 174; Member since: 15 Aug 2009)


What exactly do you think they "copied"? I have never seen "slide to unlock" on any android device. On my current device (galaxy s2 with stock ICS) i see a lock with a circle around it then you move that circle to an icon. Totally different then Apple's

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 22:54 4

70. kach22 (Posts: 153; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)


You are only saying what you think is right as an apple Disciple and ignoring what is fact. Why would you say something that is against your Master's rule. Unleash the buckles around your collar.

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 02:00 1

92. thinking (Posts: 130; Member since: 19 Jan 2012)


So, what exactly are you saying? Instead of attacking the judge, the country, laws, etc, please bullet the points and present what you think others are copying from Apple. Then, we can talk about it.

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 12:24 16

4. aaronkatrini (Posts: 241; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


One thing you can say for sure: Htc haven't steal anything from Apple!
I mean, look at their devices, not even close as design and UI to apple-made-product!

posted on 04 Jul 2012, 19:53 2

50. JC557 (Posts: 1576; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


Not to mention that TouchFlo was in development for a long time and was what made WinMo 6 quite nice to use which eventually led to Sense.

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 02:02 1

93. thinking (Posts: 130; Member since: 19 Jan 2012)


Actually, they have stolen from Apple. They have stolen Apple's customers and potential customers because of their high grade products.

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