Judge allows Motorola to use Steve Jobs' quotes vowing Android's destruction

23. jove39 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 00:42 8 0

Source link below - in case someone feel like reading :)

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/02/if-android-is-a-stolen-product-then-so-was-the-iphone/

25. PhoneArenaUser posted on 03 Jun 2012, 00:49 4 0

Again +1 :)

24. PhoneArenaUser posted on 03 Jun 2012, 00:48 4 0

+1 for you. :)

28. taco50 (banned) posted on 03 Jun 2012, 01:25 0 14

And no one put it all together in a unique and revolutionary way before Apple and Steve Jobs. That's why they own the patents.

30. jove39 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 01:43 12 0

LG Prada was significantly better than any earlier attempt...but was not commercial success...no doubt...Apple had huge commercial success/popularity with iPhone...but that doesn't make them inventor of multi-touch technology and in no way give right to call Android a stolen product!

32. taco50 (banned) posted on 03 Jun 2012, 01:47 0 16

Apple's UI was completely unique and was then copied by android.

I can see why Steve Jobs was upset.

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34. jove39 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 02:03 7 0

Now world knows...LG Prada was first touch screen device and iPhone had similar features...so if you say android copied iOS ui then you should also agree to the fact that iOS copied UI from LG Prada...don't believe me...watch cnet review video from 2007 -http://reviews.cnet.com/cell-phones/lg-ke850-prada-unlocked/4505-6454_7-32316442.html

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70. taco50 (banned) posted on 03 Jun 2012, 11:56 0 3

You have some major issues if you really believe iPhone copied prada. The iPhone was OS far ahead of the prada that it's laughable to even mention them in the same sentence.

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87. jroc74 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 15:02 1 0

Doesnt matter how far ahead or how much better it was.....copying is copying....according to you.

For the record I dont consider either one copying the other.

But the facts say the LG Prada came out before the iPhone. It won an award before the iPhone was even released. Take it for what its worth...

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92. taco50 (banned) posted on 03 Jun 2012, 15:25 0 1

iPhone was announced a mont before the prada release.

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97. jroc74 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 18:42 0 0

So...are you saying the Prada copied the iPhone? I think it takes more than a month to design an OS and phone.

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36. Sniggly posted on 03 Jun 2012, 02:11 6 0

http://netdna.webdesignerdepot.com/uploads/cellphone_design/dkmb86g_407dmfxq6gk_b.jpg

One of the first blackberries.

http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/Treo-680-review-1a.jpg

Palm Treo.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/Operating_system_iphone_5.PNG

iOS.

You know what?

Those all look just like rows of icons to me.

What was so unique about iOS again, other than it being a touchscreen dominant interface?

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93. taco50 (banned) posted on 03 Jun 2012, 15:26 0 1

What was so unique? Why don't you go back to using a blackberry.

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51. remixfa posted on 03 Jun 2012, 07:33 3 1

apple's UI is basic as hell and just made to be finger friendly with icons. they didnt invent icons or anything. they just put it together in a different way. they were the first out of the gate with capacitive touch screens, and that was the big kicker, since it works better than pressure screens. if it was just another pressure screen phone, it would not have been a big deal.

they DONT have the patents for most of what they say is theirs.

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77. InspectorGadget80 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 12:33 0 1

Android we have multitaks and widgets can custom to change size. how is that copying? why don't you just give it up and stop trolling on Android.

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98. jroc74 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 18:45 0 0

Apples UI was unique? The Prada had icons....colorful ones too.

So.....they should sue Android for the icon layout, or icons? Didnt they already try with Samsung....what ever happened to that case? Another case that so many said was trouble for Android....

Maybe its time for ppl to stop betting against Android and just like and use what they like and go on about their business.

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54. joaolx posted on 03 Jun 2012, 07:45 2 2

"make them inventor of multi-touch technology and in no way give right to call Android a stolen product!"
Nobody said that Android stole the multi-touch. Apple never said that they were the first to create the multi-touch screen. You guys just distort Apple words.

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57. taz89 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 08:43 2 0

Just cause you have the parents don't mean you can keep it... Plenty of apple patents have prior art which means that Apple can lose them and will become useless.... Apple have the parents for multi touch but why do you think they are not using? Because they know of they do they will lose it. Patent don't mean much of there is prior art to invalidate it.

89. jroc74 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 15:09 0 0

So...if one take existing tech and puts it all together....that just dismisses the ones that came before who didnt? Or the tech that was assembled?

Now according to this post....wouldnt the iPhone be considered a copy? Since it put existing tech together in a nice lil package? By your logic...the iPhone is just a better copy of the LG Prada, or Palm phones, Win Mo.

The Prada wasnt as polished as the iPhone. I agree. But I think the Prada deserves ALOT more credit than it gets. Especially from Apple, iPhone fans.

BTW...I dont think Apple owns ALL the patents for ALL the technology they used, use. They do own some, but not all. They added multi touch to capacitive screens and may own that....but I dont think they own the patent for capacitive screens as a whole.

33. taco50 (banned) posted on 03 Jun 2012, 01:55 0 12

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/android-now-paying-the-price-for-ios-similarities/18253

35. jove39 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 02:10 5 0

Read article and noticed...patent thing about slide to unlock...see its been in existence prior to iOS...you are forcing me to say - Apple stole ideas of other people and patented it on their name. carefully read below text (notice year 2005) -

8. April 2005 saw the release of the Neonode N1m. While lacking the sophistication of the iPhone, It was one of the few phones of its generation not to have a hardware keypad, relying almost entirely on software buttons for input. It supported swiping gestures in addition to individual taps. And it employed a "slide to unlock" gesture, almost identical to the one the iPhone made famous.

44. -box- posted on 03 Jun 2012, 03:45 6 0

If you're going to post an article link, try to use one that isn't inherently biased. The author on zdnet clearly states he owns two iDevices and recognizes the similarities of the gesture, but crucially does so without mentioning the facts about its origin, nor hypothesizing about how the gesture came to be somewhat universal. Apple didn't invent it, they just happened to put it on a device which eventually sold well, and has been riding the wave of the initial success since, without any significant changes or improvements to the OS itself, which is strongly indicitave that they ran out of new and "innovative" things to put on their devices.

60. MartyK posted on 03 Jun 2012, 09:02 4 0

Taco,

Honestly, I think you need to Google it , or Apple it, the history of technology in cell phone, instead of listen to Apple PR folks, did you know Motorola was making Cell phone since 1973?, in in 2007 LG Prada KE850 with it's advance design and multi-touch screen won "Best Cell phone award",Apple release it's Iphone which looks and act just like the LG Prada; but Apple will NEVER mention this, so instead of listen, do some reseach on the History of Cell phone then you will see how foolish Apple looks and sound.

71. taco50 (banned) posted on 03 Jun 2012, 11:58 0 5

You're a joke to compare the prada to an iPhone.

There's no point in explaining things to illogical fandroids.

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79. InspectorGadget80 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 12:36 1 0

MartyK taco doesn't give a damn. and doesn't like Android copying Apple UI. He thinks Apple is better than any other company. He also think that APPLE created the first touch screen that uses on a phone. invented multi-touch. He doesn't know the history of touch screens. And won't admit it.

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62. MartyK posted on 03 Jun 2012, 09:27 3 0

It's really hard to have any discussion with someone who has no knowledge or just plain ignor facts on cell phone's evolution.

What Apple did by gathering peices of other companies ideas and put them together was only a matter of time before anyone would had done the same (peice things together).

Heck, this is what we Android users do all day long (rooting) take bits and pieces of other androids (peice htc-samsung-lg-moto) parts to build custom ROMS.That don't make it Revolutionary, well in my opinion it don't.

99. jroc74 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 18:49 0 1

Exactly.

The ONLY difference the orig iPhone and the Prada and history is marketing, sales, exposure. Yea the iPhone was more polished....but if Apple wouldnt have made an iPhone or made it later....LG Prada woulda replaced it as this great innovation.

IMO it already is a great innovation that doesnt get anough credit.

IF the Prada woulda been pushed more, sold more.....we might all be here talking about LG Fans being in a distortion field...lol.

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100. taco50 (banned) posted on 03 Jun 2012, 18:56 0 1

The Prada was a piece of junk. To compare it to an iPHone shows your blinded by Apple hatred. You're not even being reasonable at all.

You fandroids will never get it. It has nothing to do with marketing. Apple makes a fantastic phone that people love and recommend to each other.

#JesusPhone

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101. Sackboy117 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 18:58 1 1

u sound scared

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102. Sackboy117 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 19:12 1 1

If it was a "JesusPhone" then it would have waaaaay more customization and it would make each user's theirs, meaning it wont look exactly like someone elses. Also i think a JesusPhone is would be strong enough to withstand a drop to the ground without shattering. It would also significantly outshine each and every other HIGH END Android Phone in the world right now.

And should not spread hate

And Jesus wasnt that small either. . . .

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103. taco50 (banned) posted on 03 Jun 2012, 19:20 0 1

well everyone wants an iPhone... I'll let you figure out why...

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104. Sackboy117 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 19:39 0 0

Yea cuz everybody in the modern world in insane and corrupt and want to escape their religion so they turn to the Apple to sin against God just for some free Chicken McNuggets.

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106. jroc74 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 23:06 0 0

I suggest you re read my post....How in the hell did you NOT see me give the iPhone credit???

Talking about blinded by hatred...lol. And...someone who doesnt agree isnt a fanboy. Its called a difference of opinion.

Look in the mirror....iFan. "You fandroids"....lol.

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86. jroc74 posted on 03 Jun 2012, 14:59 0 0

I woulda gave you a thumbs up just for the LG Prada....lol.

Amazing post.

41. Sniggly posted on 03 Jun 2012, 03:25 4 0

Grammar* Nazi.

43. Mark.J.Linskiy posted on 03 Jun 2012, 03:42 4 0

Ouch..

52. remixfa posted on 03 Jun 2012, 07:34 2 1

nazi'ed the nazi. nice. :)