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Judge Koh upset at Samsung for leaking info to the press

0. phoneArena 01 Aug 2012, 01:47 posted on

Bad Samsung, bad! This is what Judge Lucy Koh seems to be saying after getting upset with the Korean manufacturer for leaking certain images to the press; the judge felt that the images had been produced too late in discovery...

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posted on 01 Aug 2012, 01:53 42

1. Hammerfest (Posts: 383; Member since: 12 May 2012)


How the hell did she become a judge?

I havent seen a single SANE statement from her AT ALL, and compared to her previous court cases, I can honestly say, shes either an Apple fangirl, or getting paid VERY well... and no, she doesnt directly have to be accepting money... family, friends, gifts, finding a bag with a million dollars in it...

Whats the saying? One thing does not look like the other?

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 01:58 30

3. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)


shes furious because what samsung did was something good and this trial is tryna get judged unfairly in favor of apple...Samsung did the right thing

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 02:48 5

20. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14230; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


If Samsung wanted to do the right thing they would have designed their products in a way that wouldn't resemble Apple's products. Samsung should take full responsibility of their actions and answer to their mistakes.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 03:12 24

27. tedkord (Posts: 12281; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Yeah, especially those ones that they were designing in 2006, before the iPhone. How dare they steal rectangles from Apple in the future.

Oops. We're not supposed to know about that. I guess Apple will have to give someone else a debilitating disease that allows you to run marathons but not appear in court.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 07:11 7

60. Aeires (unregistered)


Let it go Tedkord, he's getting as bad as Taco. No sense trying to reason with someone that biased in their loyalty to Apple.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 19:00 1

82. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14230; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Truth isn't bias.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 23:13

85. levvy (Posts: 33; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)


And of course " Biasing " isn't truth either.

posted on 02 Aug 2012, 02:05 1

86. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14230; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Don't use a word you do not understand.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 18:59 1

81. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14230; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


36 people believe in irresponsibility.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 19:48 3

83. blazee (Posts: 412; Member since: 02 Jan 2012)


you're annoying.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 23:09 2

84. levvy (Posts: 33; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)


The opposite is also correct. "If Apple wanted to do the right thing they would have designed their products in a way that wouldn't resemble Sony's product. Apple should take full responsibility of their action and answer to their mistake."

You are another biased and blind Apple fan. Apple is the Mastermind who stole the original idea from Sony

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 02:49 4

21. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14230; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Can you prove any of that because I'm pretty sure her credentials are far more credible than your unproven claims about her.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 03:41 17

34. senotrius (Posts: 4; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)


Yup she's a hoe.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 05:30 22

55. MISTER_H (banned) (Posts: 97; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


Apple has bought the judge.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 06:26 16

58. CharlieAtInfinity (Posts: 253; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)


I bet ya, she is being paid some extra millions by Apple!!!

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 04:46 4

42. darkkjedii (Posts: 22098; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Probably by graduating law school, and completing the BAR, then either being elected or appointed to the bench after the processes were all completed. U know the way pretty much all judges become judges. Don't get pissed cuz its not going samsungs way, the tides could change but Samsung is doing stuff she said not to. They're damn lucky she's not judge Judy, or this trial would b over and apple would b 2.5 billion richer.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 12:06 2

76. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


She has a problem with Koreans perhaps

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 13:16 1

77. Mark.J.Linskiy (unregistered)


Yeah, I was thinking that too. She is Korea, so that could be a reason along with Apple's money.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 01:55 5

2. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Wow Samsung not earning any favors with their shady tactics. Samsung has really taken the low road with this trial making personal attacks and accusations instead of sticking to facts. Another good example is trying to being in as evidence Steve Jobs' comments about going thermonuclear on android when that has nothing to do with the facts of the case.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 02:11 13

13. BREvenson (Posts: 240; Member since: 17 May 2012)


I would say that the comments about Steve Jobs' hatred for Android would go well in a case like this, simply because it proves that since the rise of Android's popularity, Jobs and Apple have made it their mission to destroy it by any means necessary. It's called a motive, my narrow-minded friend; an influencing factor that makes a person (or people) do what they do. Bank robbers have motives, murderers (the sane ones, anyway) have motives, and multi billion-dollar companies that can't stand it when a competitor sells a successful phone have motives.

Apple's motive revolves around its deep-seated hatred of Android, so they will use the courts, their money, their influence, "their" patents to eliminate any and all Android devices that threaten their stranglehold on the market so that they can be the supreme ruler of mobile electronics.

Over. My. Dead. Body.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 01:59 18

5. BREvenson (Posts: 240; Member since: 17 May 2012)


The main question is this: Did Judge Koh put out an order restricting Samsung from sharing this information...information that, prior to the trial, was already in the public? If yes, then I'll agree that Samsung did screw up. If not, then what is this judge's problem?

She obviously has it out for Samsung; she's denied every effort of theirs to muster a defense against Apple, and these pics (as well as the testimony regarding Sony's designs) would have sealed the deal. Unfortunately, the judge must not like it when companies not named Apple attempt to defend their products' designs and functions...

How can anyone defend a company that lets the courts do all the talking for them?

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 02:28 4

18. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


I completely agree, I can't decide yet if the judge is being a douche or Samsung was being an idiot in terms of releasing the files to the public.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 02:49 1

22. JC557 (Posts: 1575; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


I have to admit, Samsung, right or wrong, needs to tread carefully considering the judge overseeing this case.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 07:14 3

62. Aeires (unregistered)


If Koh's husband is tied to Apple in any way, Samsung needs to file a petition to get Koh removed from the trial and have it moved to neutral ground. Chicago would be a great location, maybe Posner is available.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 02:00 15

6. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


shes mad because shes a lop sided judge. where the hell is impartiality in this case? I would have leaked the images if i were Samsung too. Any juror that has any curiosity about the case will go online and look up stuff about the devices and see the proof. public opinion holds a lot of sway these days.

it must be hard listening to apple whine about how they dont have enough money hiding in offshore accounts.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 02:04 3

8. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Just because she sided in Apple's favor doesn't mean she's impartial. Any trial judge won't allow either side to leak information public because it can sway the jury.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 02:09 11

10. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


this 1 little action by her doesnt make her partial or impartial. But her nice long track record of allowing every arguement by apple and boxing samsung into a corner at every turn shows unquestionably that she is very partial to apple. really..
samsung isnt allowed to show proof of apple's own concept art proving it stole the concept? Really.. samsung isnt allowed to show ITS OWN PHONE that was designed and released long before the iphone that proves unquestionably that samsung's designs are not stolen, but an evolution of their existing lines.

only a moron would not question those actions. oh... yea,.. i forgot who im talking to.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 02:11 1

12. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Well seeing as you have no inside knowledge of the case or how trial law works you're making assumptions. In your mind any decision that sides with Apple is biased and anything in Samsungs favor is just.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 02:11 13

11. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)


i gotta say it dude.....you are really a die hard "blind" apple fan aren't you?

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 04:36 2

40. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


he's pretty pro-Apple, but he often makes good arguments. His point is that if the judge treated Apple as they were treating Samsung, there would be no problem and it would be considered as part of the trial..... and I'd have to agree. You guys would be rejoicing if it were the other way around.

I think the case is pretty fair, but the only thing that made me raise my eyebrow was the fact that the judge said "Samsung had produced the pictures too late in the discovery process" and refused to use the new information. I'm not a lawyer, so I really have no idea if that's a valid/fair move.

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