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Jon Stewart talks with Siri about workers' conditions at Foxconn

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Jon Stewart talks with Siri about workers' conditions at Foxconn
Apple tried to come clean last week, issuing a document auditing the conditions at its suppliers' factories, and placing a few on monitoring status, which some other tech companies that assemble in China are doing as well.

That, however, might have given Jon Stewart's writers an idea about last night's show, and hilarity ensued. Using a 2010 CNN report about the conditions at the giant assembler Foxconn, which puts together most iPhones and iPads, among numerous other gizmos, Jon Stewart tried to shed light on the issue.

There is always controversy around Foxconn's workers treatment, so no wonder that the company is planning to replace a lot of them with a million-strong robot army, and we are not kidding. Jon Stewart, however, entered a dialog with Siri about Foxconn, and the resulting snippet from last night's show, called "Fear Factory", is good laughs, Rick Perry's accent impersonation notwithstanding.

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posted on 17 Jan 2012, 09:15 8

1. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

wow a shot of brutal honesty from Stewart. of course he didn't mention the fact that each factory is treated differently depending on the client, with even foxconn saying that apple's chenzen factory being the worst of the worst.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 19:10

20. Vrils (Posts: 42; Member since: 17 Sep 2011)

dude how the fuk do you KNOW???
have you been there or in any other COMMUNIST country?

in communism you have NO rights!

posted on 18 Jan 2012, 10:50 2

42. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

foxconn has dozens of factories all over the third world.. most of them are in china. by comparison of other Chinese foxconn factories, the apple plants are the worst.. and they meet with apple's approval. that's my point. those jumper nets they showed were at the apple plant because they are the only one with a large suicide problem.

posted on 18 Jan 2012, 10:15

41. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)

vrils how would you know that there isnt more than one factory?

because in america we do have rights and we also have this thing called the interwebs where you look stuff up :)

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 09:24 7

2. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)

F**k that is just downright a violation to their so called human rights. Ahhmm. . . w8 this does make me wonder if human rights do exist in that f*cktory. . .

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 14:07 4

6. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

there are no human rights in china. what china calls human rights is.. the right to work yourself to death for next to nothing. thats about it. He might of said some things in a joking manor like the automatic prison sentence for trying to form a union, but it was also a true statement. Chinese prisons are not like American prisons. They might be 2 or 3 steps above Aushwitz. We treat our prisoners better than they treat their middle class.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 17:35 1

16. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

It's always funny how Americans think they are better than everyone else. People still remember Americans had slavery until 1865.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 18:55 4

18. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

and in 1865, we still had better working conditions than the chinese. What is wrong with you? when they built the great wall so many centuries ago, they threw prisoners, dead people, and living dissenters into the wall to help build it with their bones.

good lord. So because we, like every other country, have some black spots on our history, we should never hold anyone accountable to minimum human rights??.. thats retarded.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 19:13 1

21. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

> and in 1865, we still had better working conditions than the chinese. What is wrong with you?

remixfa, why are you continue to make sh*t up. After 1865, the "white man" in America continue to eradicate the Native Americans as part of their manifest destiny. Then the "white man" led the remaining native Americans live in reservations with horrible conditions.

After 1865, the white man in the South continued to lynch and harass the blacks in America. Have you not heard of the KKK or the effects of racial segegration until the Civil Rights of the 1960's.

America has a lot of black spots and we shoudn't think Americans are pure as Snow White.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 19:18 4

23. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

and in comparing it to china.... wow. thanks for the history lesson about "the white man". could you be more racist? seriously. Instead of throwing the most vague bullet points about america, why dont you take the challenge and learn about china from 1700s to now. According to them, they have made huge strides in human rights compared to just how violent they used to be. America has black spots on its history for human rights, china's entire history is a black streak. you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.. like normal. im surprised you didnt start your comment with "to the RVI".. which is an immediate flag that whatever is about to follow in your comment is completely off base.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 19:22 4

25. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

here is a nice PC version of china's history in the 1800s with many of the bloody parts washed down. What horrific acts americans did to their slaves, the chineese government did to its entire population. and the 1800's were not even among the bloodiest century in china's history.

get a clue

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 19:40

29. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

> the chineese government did to its entire population

Oh please, it was a rebellion due to someone who was a fanatic thinking he was related to Jesus Christ. You are making sh*t up as usual and getting more desperate along the way.

Per your link, it was the British Empire that was trying to get the chinese population hooked on drugs so the British Empire could get silver to buy more tea from China. Here we have the British Empire being the biggest drug dealer of all times. The British are not exactly thrilled with this part of their past, nor the colonization of several native countries around the world. Do you know how many natives the British eradicated as part of their world domination?

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 19:17 1

22. jbash (Posts: 344; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)

and to think Mississippi didn't ratify the 13th amendment until 1995(even though it still isn't officaially notified to the US Archivest)

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 19:29

28. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

> there are no human rights in china. what china calls human rights is.. the right to work yourself to death for next to nothing.

remixfa, will you STOP making racist remarks. You are always making generalization and sterotypes. If you want to know about human rights, you go to the UN:


Here's ONE FACT you don't get, mainland China, the People's Republic of China, is a COMMUNIST country. Taiwan, the Republic of China, is a democratic country.

Here's Wiki's take on humans rights in mainland China:

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 20:51 5

33. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

you really are an idiot. just saying.. oi.

bring back gallito. at least he tried to be funny with his stupid remarks. you actually think your right. .lol

posted on 18 Jan 2012, 03:43 2

36. Whateverman (Posts: 3269; Member since: 17 May 2009)

If you think about what remix is saying, you'll see the man is right. And this isn't the 1860' we're talking about here. It's what is happening now in the year 2012.

America has some serious atrocities in it's history, and some of the after effect are still being felt to this very day. But at least there are laws that prevent things like 35 hour work days, child labor, and the types of abuse that many (Not all) workers in China have to put up with in order to live. America has a long way to go, but why is it so bad to want better for workers in other countries too?

I agree with the comment remix made about the prisoners in America as well. Prisoners here get free room, board clothing, gym memberships (kinda), free health care, dental, vison, medication, psychiatric care and counseling. They get free vocational training, free education and even college degrees. College degrees!!! I'm still paying off student loans and these guys have the option to get it for free!

Anyway, all I'm saying is I use to have their job, and it looked much better here than how it looks over there. We didn't need nets to stop jumpers, we didn't share rooms with 8 strangers, and at the end of an eight hour shift I was allowed to go home. It would be nice if they had those options as well.

posted on 18 Jan 2012, 07:01 2

38. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

bing! right on the money.

thanks WEM :)

posted on 18 Jan 2012, 12:22 1

44. dmn666 (Posts: 244; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

Dude, you're full of sh*t. You hate apple and now talking s**t about China. America (i.e. Apple) and China (i.e. Foxconn) have been in bed for a while. Our country is the brokest one today cause China makes and sells all kinda stuff for cheap. Nothing's wrong with their quality. Ironically, it's communism that made it possible and our democratic country is their biggest customer. You and your fool friends go buy those stuff every day and now you guys are talking about human rights. F**k off.

posted on 18 Jan 2012, 13:02

45. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

shouldn't thumb yourself up... lol. actually we had this conversation a while ago about what is made in foxconn Chinese factories and I own very little stuff that was made in foxconn-china... and have bought nothing from them since learning of this crap.
you are a sad sad individual .. lol.

posted on 18 Jan 2012, 15:27

46. dmn666 (Posts: 244; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

I guess you even can't read and claimed you haven't bought anything made by sweatshops . Listen up, fool - your beloved Samsung is another sweatshop where even the VPs kill themselves once in a while. LMFAO. Educate your ignorant a** a bit more, try not to comprehend literally and then you can try to sound smart.

posted on 18 Jan 2012, 15:30

47. dmn666 (Posts: 244; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

Oh, thanks for the tip on thumbing up. Now I can safely think there is one less fool out there.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 09:31 3

3. eaxvac (Posts: 328; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)

America needs to do much more to move those jobs back to their shores by incentives, tax reduction, and improve productivity with technology.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 10:57 8

4. ivanko34 (Posts: 617; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)

ugly truth
shame to apple
the mountain of money of apple comes from the work and life of poor people

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 13:45 1

5. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)

A problem very easily solved: Manufacture your products in the US!!!! And just the other day i heard about the obscene "bonus" of 100 million or so that Apple's CEO paid himself.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 14:10 3

7. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

obscene? i love when people use that word.. almost as much as i love the word greed. because it means u have no idea about business and just follow liberal propaganda.

eaxvac was right on the money. The best thing we can do is get off our current tax system. Its confusing, way too complex, and its the 2nd highest in the world. That is the reason companies leave america and go to hell holes like china. its not greed, its survival. Of course companies like Apple would have to give up their massive profit margins (or charge even more) to move manufacturing to america, so why would they?
If you want the world to make stuff here, we have to offer the best packages and incentives. The best thing we could do would be the Fair Tax. Good luck getting any president or candidate to fight for that though.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 14:36 2

8. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

If our tax system is the second highest in the world, how is it that so many large companies (G.E. for example, Exxon is another) get away with paying nothing (or, obscenely enough, get paid a rebate by the govt.)?

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 14:51 1

9. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

it helps if you give a million dollars to the president's election fund like they did with obama. they also got into a bunch of areas that were government incentivized and pretended to do things.. on and dont forget the classic hide trillions overseas where the government cant tax them.

you pick a small handful of examples out of thousands and thousands of companies in america. The average corporate tax rate is like 35%. And do you know who that gets pushed to? The consumer. Businesses dont actually pay taxes, they filter them through down onto the cost of their products. All taxes paid are embedded into the cost of goods sold. So when you vote to raise taxes on "evil greedy corporations", your raising taxes on yourself. politicians know this, but they know u dont.. so it makes for a great demagogue platform.

tax rates in america are a joke and kill jobs.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 15:07 3

10. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Corporations have been buying politicians since before the tax act was passed. Net-net, no corporation worth its salt pays anywhere near the published tax rate, so complaining about high corporate tax rate is disengenuous in the extreme.

Typically economic factors are what kill jobs in the U.S. If a widget can be built overseas (China) and landed in the U.S. for half what it can be produced for in the U.S., the widget gets built overseas. This is also referred to as labor-cost arbitrage. Of course, labor conditions in China are dramatically different than they are in the U.S., so the playing field is anything but equal.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 15:32 2

12. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

its not disengenuous in the least. in order to get around those tax laws they pay dozens of people thousands of professional man hours to find loop holes, breaks, pay bribes, and the like. Only the largest of companies can afford to do so. You are mistaken. Most companies are not mega corperations, they are mom and pop and S-Corps most which employ less than 50 people. Tell me how they can afford to pay laywers and accountants and lobbyists please. They cant.

Instead of all that, just revamp the tax code all together. We dont NEED the worlds most complex tax code.. which is what we have. When our Secretary of treasury says he didnt pay enough taxes because he didnt understand the tax law, like Obama's Gietner did... then we have a SEVERE problem with the tax code.
All roads lead to taxes. China gives huge tax incentives and breaks to companies to make stuff in their country. They wouldnt take the negative PR for Chinese working conditions if they were only saving 5-10%. They are saving 20% in taxes alone.. not even counting the workers conditions.

posted on 17 Jan 2012, 15:55 3

14. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Unfortunately, you are the one who is mistaken. A sub-S corporation pays zero tax (the corporation's earnings are passed to the shareholders who pay whatever their individual tax rate is). Same for LLCs (partners pay taxes, not the LLC). Sub-S and LLC is the predominant small business form in the U.S. (other than sole proprietorship, which is also taxed at individual rate).

Tax code certainly needs re-vamping, but when Barry wanted to include that in the grand bargain on the debt this past summer, Johnny couldn't close the deal with his caucus. So gridlock continues. Both Ds and Rs are guilty and the tax code continues to get more complex. But corporate tax rate is not the reason jobs are moving offshore.

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