John Chen says that consumers are still a focus at BlackBerry
0. phoneArena 02 Feb 2014, 12:51 posted on
If you're a die hard BlackBerry fan, the kind that can't imagine using any other keyboard than the one on the BlackBerry Q10, you might have been concerned by the appointment of John Chen to replace Thorsten Heins as CEO of the Canadian manufacturer. With a reputation as someone who has turned around a troubled company (Sybase) and dressed it up to be sold to a much larger one (SAP), the fear was that Chen would concentrate on areas like the enterprise...
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1. rdaex (Posts: 148; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
They dont have 0%. Stop reporting that.
I know people who use BB devices, and BB10 specifically.
They may have less than 1%, but it is NOT 0.
2. Finalflash (Posts: 2769; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Well 0% might be for market share of devices sold during the quarter which is understandable seeing as how no one wants to buy sinking ships. Until he makes the ship float again it likely will stay around 0% (margin of error and all of course). With 900 million smartphones sold last year alone, and even if BB had 9 million sold they would just be 1% and hence, a rounding error.
Still there is no hope for the company if he can't fix it within a year or two because by then everyone will have moved on to newer more exciting gear. The smartphone market would be a completely higher level and they can't catch up to others who are fine now and pushing their limits as we speak.
7. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
I think you're underestimating the just how loyal the "die-hard" (myself included) BlackBerry faithful are. We have faith in BlackBerry and believe that the company can be turned around. For me, I know that I will always use a BlackBerry as my main, go-to device. And the same can be said for the BlackBerry faithful. Especially with the addition of all the amazing features that the 10.2.1 update has brought forth.
21. Glim12808 (Posts: 394; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
I keep reading about this "loyal and die-hard fans of Blackberry" all year long! So where are all of you, that you may save BB from dying! The time for talking is long past! Now is the time to act! Stop with all the BS already and just do it!
22. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
I don't know what "BS" you are referring to. If you bothered to hit up BlackBerry-centric sites(not sure if you do),then you would know about the "loyal and die-hard fans of BlackBerry". BlackBerry is not dying. Far from it. Sure, they are not big in the consumer space now, but they still have the commanding lead in corporate-government-security space. And they are acting. There are many places outside of the US where BlackBerry is still big(Indonesia, Malaysia, India, and South Africa, as well as Mexico, to name a few). But you would already know this, if you would bother to do a little research outside of phone arena. So calm the f--k down!
28. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2071; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
In India, the only big market where they had a stronghold previously, their marketshare has dropped from around 10% in 2012, to barely 2% in 2014. So you can imagine their situation in markets where they previously didn't have any traction.
3. Martin_Cooper (Posts: 1371; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)
Another delusional CEO? This company is gonna die sooner than I thought.
4. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
I hope BB can seriously come up...
Only two popular platforms on the market is boring, and is going to get played out really quick...
We need more differentiation.. We need more quality choices, and I think that BB is a good start.. It's already #4..
8. XperiaOptimusOne (unregistered)
WP is #3 and it can barely compete with the big 2 let alone BB.
11. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
I don't care about competition, popularity, and who sales the most.. That has nothing to do with whether a platform is good, or bad.. We just need more alternatives that are quality platforms with worth while ecosystems..
I would never suggests to someone to buy something because it can compete.. The only thing that's really important is finding something that works for you, and that you enjoy.. And, if consumers were to walk into the store and see more unique options they might find something that suits them better than what's simply popular, what everyone has, and what is only available...
It's called adult decision making when buying products...
Three choices sucks...
Why do so many Androids fans minds judge everything by competition, and numbers? That's not the only way to reason everything... People need to be taught to be themselves, not just another number.. And, when you follow the crowd that's just what you are,, just another number... Anyone who consciously chooses BB is thinking for themself and not just another follower.. I can respect that more, even if BB has .5% market share... Exclusivity is much cooler.
5. darkkjedii (Posts: 19736; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Just get in the lab BB. Apple did, and came strong with iOS. BB has a ton of life, just get on it.
9. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
+1 to you, jedii. All BlackBerry has to do is get in the lab and come with some really compelling hardware. The BB10 OS is already great. People just need to try it.
15. darkkjedii (Posts: 19736; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I think it's a great platform myself, but I'm so deep in the iOS Eco system, I just can't justify the money for BB10 rite know. With android as my backup OS, it's like my plate is full.
23. joey_sfb (Posts: 5338; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
One master one discipline. The way of the sith.
12. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Agree❕... BB is pretty much in the same position that WP was in a few years ago.. These things just take time, especially when you are up against major competition.. But, like Microkia did, they must stand strong, and keep moving forward.. I don't know why, but my gut tells me that it's not over for BB.. Times change, and sometimes those on the bottom can work their way to the top..
The best example of this is Hyundai.. Think back to the 1990's, and look at the products, and position that Hyundai was in... Toyota, and Honda we're laughing, and not worried about Hyundai then, but now?.. Even Lexus, and Mercedes are looking out... Times change.. And, times will always change.. A lot of people seriously need to humble themselves about their platforms of choice... 10 years ago Motorola was on top with the razor, killing Samsung, now look.. Lol❕❕
13. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Agreed! BB needs to stand strong and remain persistent, like Nokia/MS has done. I believe they can do it. And for the sake of choice and competition, we should all be rooting for them.
14. darkkjedii (Posts: 19736; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
They have the foundation, just throw in everything.
17. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Yep.. And, did you see the comment I posted for you.. You really burned that dude bad a few articles back.. He couldn't keep up.. That's usually what happens to those here on PA who nitpick, complain, and are unnecessarily negative.. I had to compliment you for your maturity, constructive criticism, and accurate, less biased, realistic feedback... We're all biased, to some degree, but some of these guys are just plain immature..
26. darkkjedii (Posts: 19736; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Yes I did, I remember the article. Thanx for backing me. Lotsa idiots troll this site, but I don't mind checking them at all. +1
6. XperiaOptimusOne (unregistered)
I'm optimistic about Chen taking over, but then again I felt the same optimism when Hein took over years ago now look where they are.
10. Martin_Cooper (Posts: 1371; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)
No one has pulled out a surprise like an iphone since iphone came out. If BB doesnt pull out an iphone in the next year they are dead. Now you will tell me look what android did, thats another story, LOTS of big companies so it was only natural. BB is alone and it needs to pull out an iphone. If you know what I mean.
18. apiskula (banned) (Posts: 578; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
Listen Blackberry nobody wants your garbage anymore. Focus on severance packages and go out of business. The consumer is no longer interested in your garbage
24. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
If no one wanted a BlackBerry, they wouldn't have an installed user base of over 80 million, they wouldn't own 98% of phones used in the Pentagon, they still wouldn't be big in emerging markets, where every mobile OS and OEM (save Apple) is aiming for. Go troll elsewhere, please.
20. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Blackberry is done - let us not kid ourselves on this - it can live on as a software app for the other OSes...
25. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Another fandroid troll. Please go elsewhere with your falsehoods.
27. apiskula (banned) (Posts: 578; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
If you think Blackberry is going to live on your crazy. They are done as they had their day. Get a real phone
29. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
They are still living. This belief that they are dead comes from the US market, mostly. In the US, it is believed that you can't survive without the consumer market, which isn't true. BlackBerry became what is was through the prosumer/enterprise market. That's their focus right now, and rightly so. I can't wait to see what you have to say when they pull through this. You will most likely still have excuses. And my BlackBerry is a real phone, unlike the crop you most likely use.