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Jobs biographer and Larry Page clash; what did Jobs really think about Android?

0. phoneArena 06 Apr 2012, 12:22 posted on

Walter Isaacson and Larry Page are now clashing over the anger Steve Jobs expressed at Android, but are they really completely at odds, or looking at different sides of the same coin...

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posted on 06 Apr 2012, 12:28 27

1. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Let's see... Jobs' biographer has an interest in selling a book that is perceived to be "confrontational" in regards to the Android vs Apple "battle".

Larry Page has an interest in... s**t, what does he care what Jobs wanted to do to Android, the dude is dead.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 15:40 3

72. HTCFreak (Posts: 156; Member since: 17 Jul 2010)


It doesn't matter if the dude is dead or not. So we also can't make books about, like Micael Jackson or Withney Huston, because they're dead? Your argument is invalid, sir.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 15:58 10

76. tedkord (Posts: 12315; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


His argument isn't invalid, though I don't necessarily agree with it. He's saying that when it comes to credibility, Isaacson has a profit motivation for up playing Jobs' anger and ire - it sells his book. While Page has no real gain from saying that he didn't believe Jobs' anger was entirely real.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 20:01 4

105. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Exactly...that was the point of his post...and I agree 100% with one or both of yall...lol.

I dont think Paige has no motives to defend Jobs. What will he gain from it? He generally liked the guy. While that author is trying to sell books.

I think the fanboys need to pay attention to things like this...

posted on 07 Apr 2012, 15:18 1

119. dragonstkdgirl (Posts: 144; Member since: 07 Apr 2012)


You mean Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston?

It's hard to take a comment about an invalid argument seriously when spelling errors abound. :-/

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 12:40 21

2. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


There's two sides to every story which we see here.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 12:54 21

7. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


The truth normally lies somewhere in the middle...

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 12:40 11

3. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Steve Jobs is an interesting person, nonetheless.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 13:24 18

16. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


Steve Jobs was a thief and a borrower of ideas and, only interesting to his herd of wannabies'.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 13:43 14

23. ilia1986 (unregistered)


BS. Even though I hate Apple, And love Android - Steve Jobs was a very interesting person. He had a strong personality - and was probably the best salesman who walked on the surface of our planet.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 15:21 4

70. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


I'm there with you, bro.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 15:58 1

77. tedkord (Posts: 12315; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Best salesman who wasn't a career politician.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 14:31 2

48. sudhar131998 (Posts: 63; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)


okay then who invented ipad(as in a first device which could replace a laptop) and the ipod(as in a device that was the first to play stored music portably)?

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 15:13 9

66. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


he didn't invent it T.T smh iGoats believing whatever they are told. MP3 players existed before the iPod, and tablets most definitely existed before the iPad... if you believe otherwise, you're an idiot...

posted on 08 Apr 2012, 23:57

127. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)


the comment may be a little off in terms of the invention portion, but let's be honest here...mp3 players became relevant after the iPod & tablets became relevant after iPad. have you ever used one of those old PC tablets? the experience was horrible...even current windows based tablets are pathetic. those ppl trying to undermine Apple by saying marketing is the reason for their success are at an almost criminal level of denial. Apple ushered in a new era of smart phone completely opposite of the dryness of Blackberry, Palm & Windows Mobile. Whatever your opinion is about Apple, face it...they revolutionized the mp3 player, smart phone & tablet. Android wouldn't exist w/out Apple - WebOs wouldn't exist w/out the domination of Android & Apple - Windows & Blackberry wouldn't be forced to step their game up w/out the previous mentioned. These opinion-based debates get ridiculous when you start to ignore the facts.

posted on 09 Apr 2012, 00:43

128. Pete_Muzz (Posts: 2; Member since: 09 Apr 2012)


I totally agree with you that Apple took a product which already existed and totally REinvented the Tablet (which I think are a total waste of time and the words resources) and the phone...and I thank him for it because what you say is true. With out the motivation of Apple, Android wouldn't exist. Just like jobs took the tablet and touch screen phones of old and improved them...Google has taken the iPhone and improved on it again. From competition comes better consumer products. I think the iPhone users and Android users should be thanking each other, because the competition between these two 'companies' (I know Android isn't a company) has provided us with a technology race that is improving the way we communicate at an incredible rate. Without each other the industry would slow right down. But it wouldn't stop Apple releasing products with one added feature and calling it an entirely new product.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 15:13 10

67. ojdidit84 (Posts: 458; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)


The iPad was NOT the first touchscreen tablet nor was the iPod the first portable digital music player nor the iPhone the first full touchscreen phone...

They were the first to put an incredible amount of money towards advertising them effectively to the masses though...

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 15:43 6

74. beatsandmelody (Posts: 109; Member since: 01 Nov 2011)


It's exactly like the Ford Model T automobile. Wasn't the first one around, just the first one to make it big and widespread.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 16:00 8

78. tedkord (Posts: 12315; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Seriously? You do know that there were tablet PCs for a decade before the iPad, and there were mp3 players before the iPod?

Or maybe you really don't.

posted on 09 Apr 2012, 00:45

129. Pete_Muzz (Posts: 2; Member since: 09 Apr 2012)


It's just that only the Apple faithful sheep find the tablet to be an amazing product...waste of time if you ask me.
Although these new tablets that can control all your bluetooth capable products in your house (regardless of brand...you don't have to live in an Apple orchard to be able to synch all your devices) make a bit more sense.

posted on 07 Apr 2012, 02:11 3

116. quakan (Posts: 1381; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)


@sudhar131998 You should have looked up your facts haha. Just to let you know I had a sony mp3 player before the iPod came around and I had an Archos tablet before the iPad came around. That was an ignorant comment on your behalf.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 18:29 7

102. qxavierus (Posts: 48; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)


I totally agree. Everything Apple use in their products is invented and designed by some other company. Yet, they claim it's their accomplishment. Like the retina display - Apple says "...we had to design it in a completely new way..", but the truth is that the display is designed by their suppliers, not Apple...

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 14:02 3

31. TROLL.ISAHA (banned) (Posts: 535; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)


Steve jobs last dieng will and wish
was to eliminate, destroy Android,
but hahaha the deviant was extinct befor
Android! Iniquitos is gone.....

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 12:40 14

4. biophone (Posts: 1985; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Can we just let the man rest in peace. He was only human after all.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 12:49 12

5. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)


try to tell this to apple so they can stop suing and start innovating. anyway who cares what jobs thought of android.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 12:53 8

6. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Agreed. The iphone has become stale...time to take the worm out of the Apple.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 13:06 2

8. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Still managed to work in your Apple hate. This isn't about innovation, which Apple does more of than any company.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 13:08 9

9. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Taco stop yer crying and just admit ....what innovation? Siri? lol, maybe purchased innovation. It is still a good phone and the wife likes her tiny iphone 4S from Verizon. Simmer down, boy.

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 13:25 2

18. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


How many tablets did Android have before the iPad?

posted on 06 Apr 2012, 13:44 9

24. ilia1986 (unregistered)


How many tablets did Apple have before Windows XP, tablet edition?

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