Japan finds rare earth materials that could lower the cost of electronics
0. phoneArena 25 Mar 2013, 18:23 posted on
Rare earth materials are an essential part of modern electronics, including our favorite tablets and smartphones. The trouble has been that for about the last two decades, China has held the vast majority of these materials, which has led to high costs. But, Japan has now found large deposits of rare earth materials in the ocean, and may use this new find to bring down costs...
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1. Captain_Doug (Posts: 730; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Great. This should really be a great thing.
11. jsdechavez (Posts: 652; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
Well, I praise the Japanese for this effort to have China lower its rates. Us, consumers, will benefit most from this - cheaper devices!! Nothing wrong with that.
13. belovedson (Posts: 821; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
i hope your not an american. if you are, you are spoiled rotten.
26. Nikolas.Oliver (Posts: 1305; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)
Japan is much better than China, Chinese people aren't civilized and rude they like to yell at each other ... If you go to a restaurant and speak English people there won't serve you
12. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
I have a question... if its "rare"... doesnt that mean that it is not abundant and therefore not a good choice for mass production?
18. p0rkguy (Posts: 675; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
Here's an easier explanation.
I'm buying bulks of raw material from you for $.10 each. Let's say you gain $1mil/y in profit from my purchases.
I recently discover a new material that allows me to do the same as your material but the whole process of labor is much cheaper than buying it off you.
Am I going to keep purchasing your material or am I going to mine this newly discovered one all the way to the center of the earth?
Also, are you willing to go with $500k/y over nothing at all? You're basically going against the earth. You will end up having an abundance of raw materials and will beg me to buy it at $250k/y.
20. TheMan (Posts: 339; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)
Bucko, as we learned in Chemistry 101, there's a section of the Periodic Table called Rare Earth elements or metals. The name is a bit misleading; the minerals are relatively plentiful, just not in concentrations that make extraction highly efficient.
4. TheLolGuy (Posts: 464; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
Wow, the Chinese government purposely restricted exports so companies were forced to build in China? Thats so dirty... I hope that manufacturing bubble blows up really bad for their poor decision...
8. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
dude, china is smart. there are deposits in central africa too, and companies are basically raping the land and giving nothing back to the people. at least china used its leverage to create jobs and revenues.
10. jsdechavez (Posts: 652; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
Well, China has to make jobs for their billion-strong population....
24. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 489; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
Cheap pay that is,they also let minor work and not pay a single dime.lol
5. lolioslol (banned) (Posts: 182; Member since: 10 Dec 2012)
Jesus do you even proof read before submitting your articles? Holy typos Batman...
6. buccob (Posts: 978; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
this will only bring cost down to manufacturers. I don't expect them to sell cheap from now on...
Still good for them...
(P.s.: Sony lower your end user prices...)
7. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5480; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Can someone explain me what is RARE EARTH is on electronics? Sorry all i remember someone told me its bad and its in every electornic device like PC's ect
14. Zero0 (Posts: 557; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
They're heavy metals needed in small quantities for electronics. As far as phones go, I think they're mostly used in displays. There are other uses for them in technology (large batteries, magnets, etc.).
The mining and refining of rare earth metals can get a bit nasty. They're usually mined alongside radioactive elements, and the chemicals needed to purify are not terribly eco-friendly. This is where a lot of the concern comes from, to my understanding.
17. bizwhizzy (Posts: 33; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
Can someone Google for me? Or come to my house and click the source link, then read to me?
9. GeekNews (Posts: 6; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
"All we need is enough to force China to lower its prices"
Yeah I doubt that'll happen! This is the same issue we face with Oil. One country can boost production and the others will lower it to maintain the artificially inflated prices.
15. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Wow I wonder how it would feel like skoba diving at that deep 5700 meter pressure levels,,,,?
19. p0rkguy (Posts: 675; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
Pretty sure scuba divers will die at that point...
25. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 489; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
Not possible man,they use equipment like pressurized machines and stuff.
27. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5168; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Robots. Like what was used to plug the BP blowout in Gulf of Mexico.
21. GJanee (Posts: 196; Member since: 29 Jun 2011)
in my opinion this only matters for the manufacturers, you as a consumer will still pay for the brand name, not the quality of materials used
22. 8logic (Posts: 121; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)
I'm Chinese and even I hate China for the s**t they do
23. Topcat488 (Posts: 987; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
This is "Good & Bad" news for Japan... Good that the material was found, bad that blasting pressurized air into that known "Earth Quake" fault line area, can't be too good.
29. MartianMe (unregistered)
Oh i see now,,so this is why china is growing big in their economy.
31. XDLOL (Posts: 1; Member since: 14 Oct 2013)
Funny, China has 1.3 billion people, besides IT'S THEIR raw material. Yet they have 1.3 billion people need those natural resources. Why should they feed the other 6.7 billion people when they have 1.3 billion people to worry about. Let me ask you guys a question, you have natural resources in your country, are you willing to share it/selling it for CHEAP price? hell nah~