Jailbreak for iOS 4.1 almost ready for release - it will be difficult to plug this one
This article contains unofficial information.
The last hack took advantage of a software bug in the online PDF viewer in Safari, so Cupertino was able to quickly seal it off with the consequent iOS update. This time Apple will have hard time doing the same thing, but the folks are ironing out the last tweaks of the solution, so the Dev-Team advises those with jailbroken devices to steer clear from iOS 4.1 for now, until the boot ROM jailbreak for it hits the Internets.
1. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Excellent. The more jailbreaks there are, the more people will use them, and this will lead Steve to recognize the importance of user customization, thus prompting him to implement more user-customizable options in every subsequent iOS version. Win-Win situation the way I see it.
10. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
Generally, I am all for customization...but one thing I am more for is my phone working fluidly and flawlessly. When I had Windows Mobile, it was absolutely customizable. But the problem was that the phone would run a bit slower...actually, a lot slower. This may be because Windows Mobile was crap, but still customization killed a lot of stuff for the OS. The reason Steve Jobs is so closed with iOS is because he wants to control the user experience. He also wants to make it so your average consumer can't break the phone without having a lot of technical knowledge. Anyone else in cell phone sells? How many people do you get coming into your store asking you to figure out how they messed up their smart phone. With the iPhone, that happens, but changing it back is simple because the phone can't be customized outside of what's allowed by Apple. People get a phone that always works and I don't have to sit there and trying to figure out what they did to the phone. Plus, think about it as if you were Steve Jobs. When people's computers don't work, for example, rarely do they say...man, all these junk programs are slowing down my computer. They say, "This computer is running slow and it's crap!" Consumers generally blame the hardware instead of the crap they do to the computer. Same with cell phones. I've seen so many people come in with phones and blame the phone for the crap they do to it. That would be bad news for Apple and I don't blame Jobs for having a lot of restraint over iOS. Because of that, the iPhone is the easiest phone out there to use. Hell, I've sold iPhones to 85 year olds and they love the thing. But if you want a customizable phone...Android is amazing for it. And I kind of like that balance. right now everyone seems to be trying to be Apple...having a very closed operating system and controlled user experience. Even Microsoft looks like they are following the Apple mold. But Android is giving an alternative. Some Android phones are customizable and some are REALLY customizable. Both have impressive app stores. So we have our pick of the two.
2. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
Usually we see eye to eye on things here, but For once illia I sorta disagree with you, I see ur point, but what i see is a little different. Each new jailbreak takes advantage of an as-of-yet undiscovered vulnerability. And each subsequent update patches that hole, inevitably making the os more secure. Eventually, but I don't think it will happen soon, apple will end up making a version of iOS that is so secure there will be no vulnerabilities, or no feasable vulnerabilities left to exploit. Resulting in a very secure os. Which is still as u said, win-win for everybody. However as a side-effect I do believe more and more user requested features will be added to iOS including customization options as a way to convince people not to jailbreak among other things.
3. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Yes this is also true.. though it baffles me who in their right mind would want to jailbreak an iPhone, knowing that jailbreaking automatically voids any kind of warranty there is on it.
5. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
Now that the iPhone is so feature rich there are very few reasons I can see. I jailbroke my first 2 iPhones. 2g and 3G. Mostly for swirly mms though I admit after I jailbroke them I used ireal SMS and sbsettings. Even winterboard. The jailbreak can be removed. The warranty still valid. So it hasn't been much reason not to jailbreak. However I think most people jailbreak for winterboard-customization and other customizations system wide. And unfortunately for cracked apps and pirating music and movies. Which I never wanted to do. Then again for the 3G it's the only option to add multitasking amd wallpapers. As well as some of the other missing functionality of ios4 that apple saw fit to leave out.
6. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Yes, well jailbreaking can be apparently, removed, but it appears that Apple somehow knows if and when did you jailbreak your device - even after returning it to it's original state. I recall a story about some woman in our country who was having software problems on her iPhone. She sent her phone to her carrier, which sent it to Apple (by flight of course), which in turn said that "it appears that the device was altered somehow, and thus they are not responsible for anything". And that is despite the fact that the woman claimed that she didn't even jailbreak it in the first place. Thus, iirc, in the end she was left with a very expensive paperweight.
7. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
True Ive read similar stories. I myself went to an apple store because my 3G had dead pixels. They examined it and told me it had slight water damage. Funny cuz I never got it wet. But the guy said the litmus sensors look like they barely got wet so he replaced it anyway. Never checked the software. So I guess as long as you remove the jailbreak and you don't have a software problem, apple won't know. Regardless though, if you have a 3GS or iPhone 4 I don't see a real reason to jailbreak.
8. vzw fanman (Posts: 1974; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
how is the iphone so feature rich??? droids are feature rich.
9. ilia1986 (unregistered)
define "feature" then.
13. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
Thanks for trolling fanman. Ways a pleasure. Let me just put it this way, standalone features- meaning what it cam do withot the use of third party apps- the iPhone beats droits down in the feature dept. Except widgets, there's nothing a droid can do iPhone can't. to truly get the "openness" of an android phone it must be rooted. So take a rooted droid and a jailbroken iPhone. iPhone can do all that the droid can do. In other words: "anything you can do I can do better"
15. vzw fanman (Posts: 1974; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
can an iphone use true widgets like a droid can, widgets are actually a HUGE feature. i have yet to see a notiffication panel as complex as android's on an iphone...don't forget the endless apps of customization, without rooting. iphone has shit apps for anything customization. do you own an android phone? have you ever heard of open home? so no, iphone don't do everything a droid can do.
4. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
Too add to what I said above, that's not to say iOS won't be jailbreakable. There eventually may be no vulnerabilities left to insert code but that doesn't mean parts of iOS itself won't be rewritten or otherwise exploited to allow for jailbreaks in some way.
12. phonedemocracy (Posts: 98; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
As the technology to detect and protect increases, the technology to fool and break increases ten-fold. People will find a way. Sometimes I think iPhone devs might actually leave vulnerabilities on purpose since jailbreaking is so popular for the iPhone. In a way they play the role of a respectable Prometheus, defying an arrogant Zeus (Steve Jobs).
14. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
Very well put. Exactly the thought I was going for. Well except the intentional vulnerability. Interesting tho.
16. tryecrot (unregistered)
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