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It's not stealing when Apple does it, because it wasn't stealing when Google did it either

0. phoneArena 13 Jun 2013, 16:17 posted on

Every time there are new features announced for iOS, there is an uproar around the web about Apple "stealing" features. I have talked before about why I think this is a silly argument, but I wanted to put up a refresher on the idea, because the claims simply won't die out. Here's the simple reason: it's not stealing when Apple does it, because it wasn't stealing when Google did it either...

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posted on 13 Jun 2013, 16:32 2

6. TechWorld_Observer (Posts: 15; Member since: 17 Aug 2011)


Remember the first iPhone? No really innovation as there were many features already on contemporary phones at the time, but Apple was able to put the top features from each phone into the iPhone, not real innovation, right? simple, any company COULD do it, but never did. Worst thing about it is that these other companies knew about it and yet they wanted to keep selling junk. Yes, you remember, ugly designs, buggy software, gosh you had to keep messing with the software features all the time (if you could) just to get your phone to a satisfying point.

A TV screen, an existing circuit board, a few other existing components, they just put them all together into one product... the PC. All easy, right, no true innovation at this, any boy could do this in their parents garage.

What's the lesson here?

posted on 14 Jun 2013, 06:30

206. Sauce (unregistered)


Last time I checked there still are ugly & hideous designs, buggy software, as well as still having to mess with the software to get your "awesome" phone. This is why I left android for windows and iOS.

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 16:34 20

7. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3109; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


Everyone knows that every company in the world "steals/borrows" from their competition, they make it better and improve on it, advance it as much as possible. Nobody has a problem with that, we have a problem with the fact that Apple has stolen ideas from the very start and then had the nerve to try to ban and sue the hell out of their competition when they themselves are no better.

But sure, we can pretend that Apple isn't a money hogging billion dollar corporation that steals from their own developers and takes the credit for themselves and tries to bully and scare competition right out the door.

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 16:36

9. biophone (Posts: 1982; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Michael mentioned that. Apple hasn't started any lawsuits under Tim cook. That was a jobs thing and he isn't part of apple anymore.

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 18:16 1

85. Stuntman (Posts: 836; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)


That is true, but many people still see Jobs as the face of Apple and still remember those lawsuits while he was running the company. I don't know how long it will be before that perception changes.

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 19:35

125. roscuthiii (Posts: 2226; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Until the current cases are resolved most likely.

And then of course there has to be no new anti-competitive lawsuits filed.

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 20:00

134. biophone (Posts: 1982; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Yea I agree the perception hasn't changed but the point is that it should! This is based on cook's statements (against lawsuit) and actions (hasn't sued anyone)

posted on 14 Jun 2013, 04:11

197. tedkord (Posts: 12308; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Her also hasn't dropped any lawsuits, and had expanded existing ones, while continually claiming that others are stealing from Apple. Just recently Apple filled to have the GS4 added to existing suits.

Tim Cooks hands aren't clean.

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 16:40 1

14. TechWorld_Observer (Posts: 15; Member since: 17 Aug 2011)


Isn't that what business it's all about? Take what you can and leave nothing behind? Do any of us really think that it wouldn't be same with any other company being in Apple's shoes? Please! As far as that goes, How many of us being in Apple's shoes wouldn't do the same?
It's like they say: "It's nothing personal, just business"

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 16:47 6

24. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3109; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


The thing is, I would actually be excited for IOS7 if Apple weren't the biggest hypocrites in the world about it.

posted on 14 Jun 2013, 04:13

198. tedkord (Posts: 12308; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


No, I don't think it would be the same, because no other company had an entitled, petty tyrant like Jobs at the helm. Most companies are run by adults.

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 16:37 1

10. cse.vicky (unregistered)


Its good inspiration I should say ! Every OS and Hardware gets inspired by every other one, this helps everyone to reach a standard [very important]and also leads to innovation to make them different from rest of the lot !

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 16:39 7

12. Anti-Troll (banned) (Posts: 64; Member since: 12 Jun 2013)


Its good to get inspired by others.. but how about getting inspired, copy it , patent it and sue others! Haaaaa!

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 16:39 4

13. Anti-Troll (banned) (Posts: 64; Member since: 12 Jun 2013)


Even call it innovation.

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 16:55 6

29. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


When was the last time Apple sued a company that wasn't already suing them?

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 17:12

49. iamfoolhehe (Posts: 28; Member since: 03 Jun 2013)


Uff michael jee in action ;)

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 17:14 2

51. ZeroCide (Posts: 778; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)


As it goes Apple sues, company counter sues.

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 17:18

52. LionStone (Posts: 753; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)


That's all well and good but it wasn't too long ago and while there are still ongoing cases it's hard to forget even though some want to forgive. Good article.

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 17:27 3

61. MCrapp (Posts: 318; Member since: 07 Apr 2013)


What about A.pl.......http://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/09/10/​apple-reportedly-suing-polish-online-supermarket-t​rademarking-name-a-pl/

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 18:30 1

92. MartyK (Posts: 846; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


This is just plain crazy!..what do you have to say to this Mikey?..smh

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 18:32 1

94. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Name issue, not a patent or feature issue. Every company stops companies that infringe on brand names.

posted on 14 Jun 2013, 03:02 1

192. MCrapp (Posts: 318; Member since: 07 Apr 2013)


A.pl=Apple yep maybe for ifans!!!

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 22:57 1

168. Nephylim (Posts: 134; Member since: 04 Apr 2013)


Wtf !!! this is real !!! O_o

posted on 14 Jun 2013, 03:03 1

193. MCrapp (Posts: 318; Member since: 07 Apr 2013)


Yes that Real Apple!

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 16:40 1

15. Feanor (Posts: 733; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)


I don't entire get the argumentation of this article. We don't blame companies for copying obvious concepts from the analogue world or even from each other; we blame them for copying very specific and distinct features. E.g. there are many ways to unlock a lockscreen but initially many manufacturers were copying Slide to Unlock from Apple one to one. In the same way, a notification bar makes sense for every smartphone, but Apple did copy almost one to one the Pull Down bar from Android even if this is not a necessary prerequisite for an operating system to work. Even in hardware; Samsung had many interesting designs (like the Wave which was distinctly Samsung) before the iPhone debut but after the iPhone success they "orientated" the design of the first Galaxy S to a design suspiciously similar to the iPhone design. And Apple in turn seemed to get "inspired" by Sony designs for the iPhone 4. Maybe the whole story about who is copying whom is exaggerated but not entirely unfounded.

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 16:43 2

19. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3109; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


"E.g. there are many ways to unlock a lockscreen but initially many manufacturers were copying Slide to Unlock from Apple one to one."

Apple did not invent slide to unlock.

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 16:56 5

31. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Exactly, I had slide to unlock on my Sony laptop back in 2000.

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 17:25 5

59. Seymur (Posts: 19; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


I slide to unlock my door for years. should I sue

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 18:37 1

97. MartyK (Posts: 846; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


Now do you see why it's important that tech site correct Apple on the spot, so lost soul like Roryrevolution will know the truth.

fyi it was Neonode N1m..that show off the slide to unlock

posted on 13 Jun 2013, 18:06 3

80. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


Correct, but they did sue Samsung over it, and that's the entire point of why so many people hate Apple.

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