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It may become illegal to unlock your phone starting Saturday

0. phoneArena 24 Jan 2013, 14:55 posted on

Do you all remember that ruckus that happened over whether or not it was illegal to jailbreak your mobile device? Well, that whole fiasco is poised to come back in a bad way this weekend. As part of that decision, it may become illegal to unlock your smartphone starting this Saturday, January 26th, unless you get permission from your carrier...

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posted on 25 Jan 2013, 00:01

62. bvalde09 (Posts: 182; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


Michael I have a question and maybe you could research into this. What about us getting a phone on ebay and the unlock the phone paying a retail seller? Would that be illegal? I mean I dont think so but its what I understand

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 00:33

66. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 645; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


I am confused, unlocking the phone is somehow something hardware associated? Color me surprised, I was sure that the Lock was a software lock and not a hardware lock and since we own the software then wouldn't that make the lock illegal to begin with? Who writes the dumb as hell rules, you own the software when you purchase the phone but you don't own the hardware, yet it's illegal to unlock it without your carriers consent but it's a software lock and not hardware lock...so I find something completely wrong with this whole story.

Someone please explain, as of now I find this crazy. Another thing how would you lock the hardware?!? Anyone else confused?

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:08 11

5. CivicSi89 (Posts: 348; Member since: 23 Jul 2011)


Im seriously getting sick of this. YOU purchased your hardware. You should be able to do whatever you want to said hardware. So what you signed a contract? That is with the carrier you chose NOT THE MAKER OF THE DEVICE! Its all the same when you buy a laptop. if you decide "nah i want Linux on it" you dont void any type of waranties when you do that. why not the same with Phones?!

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 23:42

60. 9thWonderful (Posts: 232; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)


Adding Linux is not tampering with the hardware, that's software. Try tampering with your laptop hardware & then try warranting it out. It's not just phones. You can't modify the hardware bc it affects the warranty on the equipment. Not sure why ppl think this is unreasonable. It's really not that big of a deal.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:11 4

6. BadAssAbe (Posts: 456; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)


Straight Talk (ATT Network)
$45 for unlimited everything
Nexus 4 (eventually)
Perfect plan

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:29 3

13. regkilla (Posts: 83; Member since: 13 Sep 2012)


Too bad they slow your data speeds down after 2 GB of usage.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:35 3

18. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)


Tmobile is cheaper if you use less than 100 min of voice and want 5gb data + unlimited 3g its only $30.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:17 3

9. ramonleonjr62 (Posts: 48; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


screw then all !!!!!!

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:24 5

11. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


I totally thought this was about Apple and slide-to-unlock before I read the artilce, lol.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:25 1

12. regkilla (Posts: 83; Member since: 13 Sep 2012)


glad my Verizon iPhone 5 already comes unlocked ;)

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:29 1

14. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1017; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


What's the purpose of unlocking a carrier specific phone? You can't switch carriers...

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:32 2

16. regkilla (Posts: 83; Member since: 13 Sep 2012)


I'm not on contract with it so I could use it on T-Mobile as well.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:45 2

26. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1017; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Eventually true. I'm pretty excited about T-mobile refarming their 1900 mhz spectrum. I was also unaware of the iphone 5's radios. That's cool it has both CDMA and GSM. Too bad T-mobile will use 1700 mhz for LTE which isn't supported by the iphone 5.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:54

33. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1017; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


I forgot t-mobile already has some of that finished so depending on where you live you're in luck. You probably know that though.... I'm gonna go learn more about everything.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:50 2

29. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


You can't switch carriers with a Verizon device (unless it has a GSM radio in it), but you can unlock to switch between AT&T, T-Mobile, or any regional GSM carrier.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:54 1

32. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1017; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


I understand that. I assumed the Verizon iphone didn't have a GSM radio but it does. It isn't widely supported by t-mobile yet but will be.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:50 1

55. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Even if the Verizon device has a GSM band, it is not guaranteed to work properly with T-Mobile or AT&T. And, with LTE, you even have more differences between all of the carrier's LTE networks. LTE works on different bands, too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:30

15. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)


Oh well

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:36 5

19. cripton805 (Posts: 1456; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)


Next thing you know, we wont be able to paint our cars or add cases to our phones.

We already get tickets for leaving the trash can out, or growing carrots in your front yard.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:37 5

20. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)


Just unlocked my phone before it becomes illegal again... Hopefully they put a permanent law that will force carriers to let you do what you want with your phone. You would think the carriers would want you to mess with your phone so when you break it they get to charge you $600 for a new one.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:39 2

21. nyamo (Posts: 274; Member since: 19 Mar 2011)


my carrier susidies are over anyway, i'm tired of all the bloat they put on, if it weren't for my wife's phone failing earlier than anticipated we would already be on the prepaid train

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:44

24. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)


nvm. comment was stupid

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:50 1

28. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Good India doesn't have this carrier locked crap.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:55 4

34. dorianb (Posts: 600; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


The value of a NEXUS just went up 100 fold..

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 16:15 1

37. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)


It will be grey zone, not illegal.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:58 2

35. chris_t610 (Posts: 14; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


Now I think this is plain stupidity. Technically, any devices that are still under contract means these are still under the carrier's discretion -- but again, these are the phones themselves (meaning the carrier reserves the right to pull back the device should the customer chooses not to continue with the service within the contract period).

As for the software, the end user has the right to do whatsoever he/she wishes to do with the said device and that includes rooting/jailbreaking. Otherwise, they might as well consider downloading apps, documents, and the like to be illegal as well since these are manipulated by the user.

Bottom line; as long as the customer is paying for his services, I think the customer reserves the right to do whatever pleases him with the device.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 16:09 3

36. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


I could give a damn whether or not they think we should unlock the device or not. But the device is MINE and I would love anyone to tell me differently. Last time I checked there are no guys in suits coming to my door taking my phone if i do not pay my bill. I pay for the service. Man, what is up with this country.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 16:21 1

38. Atlas (Posts: 158; Member since: 15 Apr 2012)


Is is it just in the US?

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 16:22 4

39. 14545 (Posts: 1610; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


Ok, that's fine. Then if I don't "own" the hardware, then stop making me pay for it. They should force the carrier, with that kind of logic, to give the phones free with our service......But now I am making too much sense. Stop allowing the carriers to lock phones then we won't have a problem.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 00:07

63. 9thWonderful (Posts: 232; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)


They do offer phones for free with the service, but unfortunately not the ones that anyone wants right? You can't have your cake & eat it too bro. You're paying $199 for a $650 phone. You dont make any sense at all. Which would you rather do, pay $500-600 each time you want a new phone to say you "own" it or pay $99-199 to pipe down enjoy some of the latest & greatest phones out there? People throw around their measly dollars & feel that they are entitled to tell a business what should happen. Just don't get that kind of logic.

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