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It may become illegal to unlock your phone starting Saturday

0. phoneArena 24 Jan 2013, 14:55 posted on

Do you all remember that ruckus that happened over whether or not it was illegal to jailbreak your mobile device? Well, that whole fiasco is poised to come back in a bad way this weekend. As part of that decision, it may become illegal to unlock your smartphone starting this Saturday, January 26th, unless you get permission from your carrier...

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posted on 24 Jan 2013, 14:58 69

1. JonBjSig (Posts: 176; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)


It's funny how in the US it's illegal for a customer to unlock their phone but here in Iceland it's illegal for a carrier to lock your phone.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:07 70

3. JunitoNH (Posts: 1895; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)


Because here, in the US, politicians are like hookers. They go to bed with anyone with enough money, enough said!!!!

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:50 9

27. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14161; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Iceland and the US have totally different views and customs. You technically don't own the device until you fully pay it out on your contract, e.g. Subsidized phones.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 16:52 11

41. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


How do you not own what you LEGALLY purchase with your own, personal, hard earned money?!?!?!

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 19:28 5

49. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14161; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


You don't fully pay for the phone until your contract obligations for the phone are fulfilled.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 17:14 10

43. true1984 (Posts: 824; Member since: 23 May 2012)


so what about when you buy off contract? doesnt that mean you own it since you arent paying a subsidized price?

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 19:28 3

50. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14161; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


If you bought it new and off contract yeah.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 19:48

73. metalpoet (unregistered)


Im sorry but I actually approve of it being illegal in the U.S. for rooting, jailbreaking, or unlocking your device if your under contract. I know its not a popular opinion but those people that want to buy devices that are already unlocked directly affect my job and therefore I am against it.

And to Mxyzptlk:
Normally We never see eye to eye but I agree with you that no one truly owns their device until their contract is fulfilled or they buy the deivce out right. Thats the reason why contracts exist in the cellphone world, because Wireless Carriers have 2 years of gauranteed revenue from you and in exchange they will let you to a rent to own on that $700 cellphone :)

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 18:13 1

47. CheapSocks (Posts: 21; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)


Well this is gonna be rather hard to enforce on android devices. You see the whole open source thing makes unlocking/ exploiting kinda hard to fight.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 19:29 3

51. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14161; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Android isn't fully open sourced. Locked bootloaders should be enough to tell you that.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:03 4

52. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)


Do you even know what is open source

Open source is when the source code is available on the web and that it is free for anyone to use
Its nothing to do with boot loaders or locked or whatnot

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 21:04 3

57. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Android is quasi-open source, because while the source code is made available, it isn't made available until Google releases it. It's not like you can go in and help with the code for Android Key Lime Pie while Google is working on it right now, like you can with Ubuntu or Firefox.

Locked bootloaders don't matter, but Mxy was almost right.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 15:37 2

72. iCandy (Posts: 46; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


Mike, sorry but your argument makes little sense. I can't imagine that the GPL requires a developer to publish non-final/unstable code (i.e. every time a character is added or removed from the code, intentionally or not). However, I would agree with you if you had claimed that Android does not comply with the GPL since it requires, in theory, all software associated with Android to be also be distributed as open-source (drivers, third party apps, etc.), which I can't imagine they all are.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:08 5

53. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)


Taco

You are a typical iPhone user
Ignorant Stupid One sided

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 20:52 2

56. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


locked bootloaders does not disallow the modding of a phone - on my DROID RAZR, locked BL, I use safestrap with TWRP recovery and can flash a JB ROM on it....and the one I have now is still better than the new JB update.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 00:55 1

67. CheapSocks (Posts: 21; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)


locking a bootloader is entirely up to the manufacturer and carrier and even that can be easily broken since the code work for the newest versions of android has to be released.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:07 27

4. BadAssAbe (Posts: 456; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)


I suddenly just became a fan of iceland :-)
Can we borrow a few of your government officials? We trade you 2 for the price of 1?
;-)

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:45 8

25. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)


how about boehner AND obama

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:42 17

22. medicci37 (Posts: 1287; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


Yeah. Iceland seems to have alot more respect for consumers than the US.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 16:54 2

42. Zero0 (Posts: 592; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Maybe that's what the plan is. It's illegal to unlock your phone, because it will never be locked in the first place.

That would be a heck of a twist.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 19:17 2

48. torr310 (Posts: 885; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


So maybe it's better not to get the subsidized phones now...
Switching to T-Mobile after my contract ends.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 01:57

69. jsdechavez (Posts: 731; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


In the Philippines, most handsets come unlocked. Well, except for those few postpaid subscribers..

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:05 9

2. JunitoNH (Posts: 1895; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)


"To be clear, this will make it illegal to unlock carrier-locked devices without permission from your carrier." Is time for the American people to wake up from their fog, and start doing the right thing. Perhaps, we should dump, yes I know is never going to happen, carriers with locked devices and see what happens. I refuse to count minutes and text. Furthermore, not going to pay $10-20 for text packages, when I know the cost is minimal to the particular carrier. Verizon, think their providing an invaluable deal with their share everything. I rather go old school, purchase a flip phone, and use the internet when home.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:14 5

7. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1017; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


American people =/= government officials. Nobody likes this except carriers and those who they are paying.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:17 10

8. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


T-Mobile is already moving away from locked devices. The thing I wonder about is that Verizon said moving away from contracts is a good idea, but that doesn't necessarily mean moving away from locked devices.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:20 10

10. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1017; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


T-mobile fills me with hope.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:34

17. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


Actually, I had a very lovely conversation with a Verizon Data Technical Support Supervisor this past Sunday, apparently, my Verizon Galaxy Note 2, like the Iphone 5, is already unlocked. She said that most Verizon 4G phones are now unlocked, unlike Global 3G phones which have to be unlocked. Anyhoot, what I don't understand about the article, are we to infer that Jailbreak = unlocked and that the so called illegality of the jailbreak would also imply illegality of a rooted phone since, jailbreak and root are synonymous in certain technical circles??

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:44 7

23. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Jailbreak doesn't equal unlocked. Jailbreak and root are synonymous, but they are different from unlocking. Jailbreak and root are legal because the court determined that users own the software on the device, but as of Saturday, we apparently don't own the hardware that we purchase, so unlocking becomes illegal.

I'll update the article to explain this.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:52 1

30. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


Thanks, I thought so. I read the article in the context of unlocking being the same as jailbreaking (or rooting) which confused me as to which process was, in fact, soon-to-be illegal.

Thanks

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 15:53 2

31. gaby1451 (Posts: 114; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


Okay, do it quickly because people need to know and I'm about to post this on my wall.

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