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Is this the end of the road for webOS?

0. phoneArena 19 Aug 2011, 08:58 posted on

It seems like it was yesterday when all eyes were set on webOS – a shiny newcomer in the industry, promising to finally put an end to the iPhone's undisputed reign. Yesterday quickly passed though, and today HP announced that it's discontinuing its operations for webOS devices...

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posted on 19 Aug 2011, 09:00

1. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)


yes... end of road... rest in pease... adios... see ya later

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 09:18 1

3. haikallp (unregistered)


It's really sad to see a potentially successful OS to go just like that. But HP made a grave mistake. They were not serious about WebOS and this is the price you have to pay. The mobile world is tough, only the strongest survive and one cannot be complacent (like nokia and hp)

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 09:22 5

4. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)


WebOS was one of the finest OS's on the market, but the missteps taken killed it. Palm should have taken the Android route with the flavor of Windows Phone 7. If this is your last ditch effort to stay afloat, let manufacturers put your OS into as many hands as possible. Give them specifications so not to cause fragmentation and you're good to go. WebOS was so talked about and highly reviewed that Palm would have come back like herpes. But they made it exclusive to Palm and Sprint...the most unpopular company of the four at the time. Sprint and Palm lost out on this. The few customers who thought about leaving their carrier for Sprint were stalled because both AT&T and Verizon made the statement they'd get WebOS in less than a year. And in that less than a year, folks forgot about Palm. HP didn't help because they made the same damn phone with the same rules.

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 11:11 1

16. snowgator (Posts: 3201; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


Jeff, it is really, really good to see you posting again!!!

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 16:33

24. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


It was on a poorly designed piece of garbage phone. Maybe Google can take the offer and improve their horribly overrated OS since Android is still a fluke in design.

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 17:24 2

25. DroidPositive (unregistered)


I have read many articles and have read the comments of The_Miz time after time. Do you ever say anything positive about anything? With all the negativity of yours it would not surprise me if you are single and have virtually no friends...We all KNOW you do not like android but if it was near as bad as you try to make it seem then it would not be as popular as it is right now. Do not berate things you do not like just because it is your opinion that it is worthless!

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 09:28 2

5. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


"Windows Phone 7 seems like the more likely candidate for now"
Ahem, PhoneArena, bada has more market share than WP7 and bada looks like it has a big potential to take the number 3 spot.

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 10:38 5

12. bada this wave that stfu alrea (unregistered)


Why are all of your posts completely and irrelevantly always about samsung's bada OS and wave series? Its kind of getting annoying and old to say the least. Your worst than Apple fan boys and android fan boys altogether. At least other fan boys are drooling over an OS thats worth talking about.

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 10:46 2

13. oddmanout (Posts: 435; Member since: 22 May 2009)


You GOTTA be joking when you say bada has more potential than WP7 to take the number 3 spot.

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 11:06 1

14. jura21 (Posts: 30; Member since: 20 Jun 2011)


well..in q2 2011..bada sold 2.06M handsets and wp7 only 1.76M....bada infact has a good potential in developing countries due to their phones being in range of $149-$400 off contract....while wp7 comes for $500+ without a contract...

posted on 20 Aug 2011, 06:20

29. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


bada definitley has more potential than WP7 to take the number 3 spot.
As Jura said, bada sold more than WP7 in Q2. And with bada 2.0.1 coming up and the Wave 3 bada will sell even better in Q4.

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 23:08

28. remyrz (Posts: 188; Member since: 28 Oct 2010)


Mr Bada on the move :P... i like your faith man :) Bada is quite good :) but I like WP7 more :/

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 09:29 5

6. snowgator (Posts: 3201; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


Why would HTC or Samsung jump on this unsupported OS? That is a pipedream. HTC is happily all in on Android and seems committed to W7. Why would they want a third OS? Samsung is the worlds leader in Android sales, and dabbles with W7 while developing Bada in certain markets. Why would they want a fourth OS? If anyone takes on WebOS, maybe a Sony-Errickson or a smaller developer. But do they have the deep pockets to do it? LG has been linked to MeeGo. RIM has QNX to fall back on. Google just spent billions on Motorola, so them purchasing and incorperating it into Android seems like a bad fit money wise. HP seems to have a gem that shines bright, but is just the wrong color or size for any jewler to work with. What a sad, sad waste.

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 09:31 1

7. Mattgto99 (unregistered)


What about QNX OS on upcomming blackberries for the #3 spot against WP7

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 09:31 6

8. Rich (unregistered)


RIM is on a respirator as well.

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 09:57 1

9. goodbye (unregistered)


yep goodbye webos cuz nobody uses you lol, oh meego and symbian when>

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 09:58 1

10. Moo (unregistered)


QNX i have used in the mid late 90s when I was exploring alternatives to windows. It had a very small footprint and would pretty much do the basics. RIM has a chance if they use QNX right.

As we have read about WebOs you can have a good os but if you do not do the right things it does not do very well.

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 10:29 3

11. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 505; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)


webOS is the Tim Pawlenty of smartphones.

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 12:20

19. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)


ha ha ha I'm from Minnesota!

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 11:08 2

15. jura21 (Posts: 30; Member since: 20 Jun 2011)


HP should now make it open source if they really want this project to continue

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 11:19

17. daniyo (Posts: 46; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)


Peter is bada man! :D

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 11:23

18. corporateJP (Posts: 1555; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)


I think it's still too early to write these guys off.

What if they do find some partners to incorporate the OS into their portfolios?

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 12:25

20. HP (unregistered)


Man! they should have sold Palm to HTC instead. HP just don't have the wit nor the experience to make mobile devices. Give a mobile rookie an already endangered platform, and this is the sure result. Totally not surprised!

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 14:49

21. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)


Bye WebOs dont let the door hit you on your way out,,,,

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 15:25

22. mnd11 (unregistered)


The answer is simple, palm failed because it went small. If they had put webos on a phone like the EVO for example. It would still b up n running.

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 16:12

23. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2957; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


Android was releasing huge screen, medium screen, and small screen phones left to right. They had all kinds of specs on them, so there was a phone for everyone on any kind of budget. That's what Palm should have done with their Palm Pre. Instead of taking advantage of the excitement and popularity the device had, they just sat there and watched it collect dust. This was a complete and utter epic fail on Palm's part. They should have acted and provided more WebOS devices with different specs. Sure Apple can get away with releasing one phone a year(or in this case, 2 years) because of how blindly their fans follow them. Palm never had that kind of fanbase and failed because of it.

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 17:53

26. danalmillan (Posts: 25; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


I had a palm pre and must admit I never had any major issues with the phone other than the cheap outer shell of it. It would chip or crack very easily and I am not hard on phones at all. If they would have made a better phone body to house the amazing OS inside I personally believe it would have skyrocketed. I have an android now but honestly miss how smooth the webOS ran on my Pre!

posted on 19 Aug 2011, 20:45

27. vijaysivakula (Posts: 163; Member since: 17 Aug 2011)


Another shining example of incompetent leaders in huge corporate offices with little to no brains. HP has taken some good things and destroyed them with their stupidity. At least now they should simply give it away to every other manufacturer irrespective of whether they would use it or not. Am sure someone would realize the potential of this wonderful OS and start making devices. HP, don't be a stupid till the very end. Look at history and learn from the many organizations that shot themselves in the leg.

posted on 20 Aug 2011, 13:36

30. joeytidbit (unregistered)


Glad I waited and didn't buy HP tablet . Guess its a sony s1 for me

posted on 20 Aug 2011, 19:27 1

32. darkurious (Posts: 10; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


Sad to see WebOS get "Kinned"

posted on 20 Aug 2011, 21:24

33. rex1213 (Posts: 77; Member since: 29 Jul 2011)


Meh... What else is new! It is deliberately framed by Microsoft. What pushed HP to do this decision? Well, not really them but rather a former Microsoft employee who gained a controlling position at HP's software operations (same thing is happening to Nokia via Stephen Elop trying to discontinue MeeGo and Symbian in exchange for WP7) so Windows can take a place in the race that they are deliberately destroying each company that tries to create a powerful OS that can REALLY COMPETE. We all know WebOS is great and as well as MeeGo. But Microsoft's evil entryism strategy silently killed them.

Microsoft is currently doing an industry-wide hijack in the mobile software space because it desperately wants to eventually corner or probably monopolize the mobile OS software market just as how they did with the personal computer OS market.
And we all know monopoly is bad for consumers.

posted on 23 Aug 2011, 07:49

36. orange11 (unregistered)


They should just merge with bada. WebOS+Bada=prolly something better than the parents

posted on 27 Aug 2011, 15:15

37. Trozer (unregistered)


Yea, when Palm first came out with the Palm Pre I thought the OS was incredible (still is!) There has been several problems... First the hardware they decided to use was horrible and cheap. If they would have put the WebOS on a nice piece of hardware WITHOUT a physical keyboard please!! it would have helped. Then HP buys them and takes a long time to come out with other devices and what do they do... they again put it on the same plastic housing with again a physical keyboard. Don't they realize that physical keyboards are for cheap texting phones and not a touch interface like the WebOS? This shouldn't have been rocket science! Then HP finally comes out with the Touchpad and it supposedly didn't come with a physical keyboard but it was still cheap hardware and plastic. They had it out for what a whole month and then pulled it!! Amazing... that's as much patience as my 3 year old child. What they ought to do is have a firesale on the WebOS and give it away so that a forward thinking company can actually do something with it. I was told the WebOS was selling 3-times the volume as the Windows Phone OS... you don't see Microsoft bailing on their mobile OS do you (as maybe they should). The WebOS is light years ahead especially on a tablet... sad...

posted on 01 Dec 2011, 10:05

38. wagoneer89 (Posts: 2; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Time to go screaming into the night! My DroidX2 just went into constant reboot mode and Verizon declared it dead. I come home and reactivate my Palm PRE and fall back deeply in love. I've been hearing lately that Microsoft succeeded in business where other companies failed because they made a good product and it won the market place. Poppy cock! Microsoft succeeded in the market place because it strangled all the companies who dared to look like they might become successful. There is NOTHING about the PRE that isn't SPECTACULAR except Palms timing. They fell asleep at the switch and after the money quit coming in, they woke up and realized that the time to stay on top of the market had passed. The PRE was a brilliant HAIL MARY PASS. Without the money to max out the materials, fit, and finish of the final design they brought it onto the market with as much fan fare as they possibly could to try and get enough notice to bail out their sinking company, but they had started too late. What's good about it? It fits in my pocket! It doesn't jab me when I sit down in the car. It folds up in a nice solid shape and when I need to use it it expands to fit my hands! IT HAS A DEDICATED KEYBOARD! A minimalistic design that doesn't scream "PHONE FREAK" to the world. WebOS!!! During the last election I sat with my Palm in front of the television and kept up with a half a dozen twitter accounts and a number of websites as the news came in. It would be more work to do that on my desktop computer! The reason WebOS is dying is that from the beginning EVERY phone store PHONE FREAK told every potential buyer that the greatest newest thing was the Droid. Why? Because they KNEW that Palm was in trouble and they didn't want to steer their customers into a dead end phone. None of the phone employees I ever met had even a passing knowledge of how the thing actually worked. I went to several stores looking for answers all I got was driven toward another product. I finally had to insist it was the phone I wanted and wait for the employee to give up and actually get it for me! It was Palm's fault that their company went under, but it is Hewlett Packards fault that the phone is going under. If Jobs were still with us and he was at Hewlett Packard, WebOS would be the new killer technology. I'm afraid that just like the years when Microsoft slit the throat of OS2, WebOS has been left on the floor to die. Unfortunatly the only losers will be the cell phone buying public. I blame HP.

posted on 01 Dec 2011, 10:56

39. wagoneer89 (Posts: 2; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


""There is NOTHING about the PRE that isn't SPECTACULAR except Palms timing." Oh yeah... I forgot... battery life sucked... but that's fixable with a larger battery and a future (never to come) redesign.

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