Is there a Motorola Nexus 5 coming next quarter?
0. phoneArena 08 Aug 2013, 20:15 posted on
The success of Motorola and Google to create the highly publicized Motorola Moto X might have convinced Google that its wholly owned subsidiary is up to the task of producing the next Nexus handset; Taylor Wimberly, who has been close to Motorola, posted on his Google+ page on Thursday the news that the Motorola Nexus 5 will be launched in the fourth quarter. Wimberly makes it clear that this is not the Motorola Moto X...
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28. roldefol (Posts: 3220; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
The only (4.5-5") phone that needs its 1080 screen is the S4, because the S3's 720 PenTile screen still showed jaggies to my eyes. The HTC One has a great screen, but it doesn't look much clearer to me than a 4.5" 720 LCD. It's specs for the sake of specs.
I read an interview with one of the Moto X engineers where he basically bashes the S4 as not having a "real" 1080 screen because of PenTile. (Nevermind that a year ago, Motorola used one of those "fake" Pentile 720 screens from Samsung on the Razr HD line.) But his bigger point I agree with - RGB AMOLED 720 can look just as good as a PenTile 1080. Moto is trying to give us what we need, not what a few of us want.
31. trickster_qc (Posts: 83; Member since: 18 Jun 2013)
I think how well the Moto X sells will influence the outcome of the next Nexus 5.
If it doesn't do so well, Google might be tempted to sell and updraged version on the X as the N5.
If it does sell well, google will not want to canibalize sales.
32. boosook (Posts: 1129; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
seems very strange to me, given that until now google has done its best to keep motorola as a separate company… also, I cannot imagine how the moto X and the new nexus would differ, because the moto X is exactly what the new Nexus should be, in terms of specs and functionalities. Of course it won't be customizable, and it won't be assembled in the US, but the risk would be either to kill the Moto X or to make a new Nexus with specs kept intentionally low to protect moto x sales.
42. Sniggly (Posts: 7199; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
A couple of things:
1) Motorola's current processor design will likely not make it into the Nexus, unless Google's going to push touchless voice control and the active display ideas out into Android as a whole.
2) Even if it does, the architecture is innovative and is probably making the other manufacturers say "Oh, crappola, should've thought of that!"
3) Motorola would not be cannibalizing its own sales with a Nexus device anymore than LG or Samsung or HTC did.
4) The Nexus line will likely follow even more closely along the lines of the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4.
5) it would be nice to do a changeup, because so far everyone has gotten to do a Nexus except for Motorola, and besides, Google has said that they're excited at the ideas Motorola has these days.
43. Zero0 (Posts: 587; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
I agree on everything except 5. Sony hasn't done a Nexus yet. I'd love to see them do it; given their trouble breaking into the market, they could use the experience of building for Google. This is something that Motorola does all the time (as much as Google tries to stay separate, the X has Google written all over it).
45. Sniggly (Posts: 7199; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Oh yeah, forgot about Sony. Yeah, they come up with nice enough designs that I'd like to see them get some Nexus love. Their UI needs work though. It's kind of dreary.
57. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2036; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Actually, neither has ZTE or Huawei. The problem is some of these oem's phones don't make it to everyone. Maybe they should let every oem do a Nexus, but each gets a certain carrier.
80. Zero0 (Posts: 587; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
This is true, but I haven't heard of any ZTE or Huawei phones with wide releases stateside as of yet. Not sure that Google would go with something of an unknown for the Nexus.
46. Taters (Posts: 3654; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Can't say that I would be thrilled if Moto did it but I'll keep an open mind. Especially since the G2 is too big IMO to be the Nexus 5.
52. boosook (Posts: 1129; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
It's no bigger than a GS4, anyway I agree that Google is going in another direction.
48. DONUT (Posts: 311; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)
aww i was hoping the Nexus 5 would be based off the G2. if Moto is really going to make the next Nexus, LG NEEDS to release a Google Edition G2. and all the best to Moto if they're making the Nexus, probably it will be a big break for them again.
50. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5653; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
well, well, i may just have to wait for the new Nexus.
i probably would've been waiting that long for Verizon to launch Moto Maker anyway.
54. roldefol (Posts: 3220; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Aren't you on Verizon? You know they're never going to get another Nexus. And even the Moto X has VZW bloatware. I think our best bet this fall has always been the MAXX.
58. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4124; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Well, considering that the Nexus 7 and Moto X both have support for Verizon's network, I'm sure you both would be able to buy the next Nexus unlocked from Google Play and use it on Verizon without having to deal with bloat or Verizon blocking your updates.
61. roldefol (Posts: 3220; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
The Nexus 7 I could see having its updates handled by Google, because it's only using data, not voice. I wouldn't bet on a Nexus 5 though. Supporting CDMA/LTE bands doesn't mean you can buy a phone unlocked, pop in a VZW SIM and be up and running. I don't know all the details, but there's something about CDMA programming that requires the phone to be locked.
That was part of the problem with the Verizon Galaxy Nexus - Verizon still controlled software updates, not Google. And that's why I don't think we'll see another Verizon Nexus until they kill their 2G/3G network and go VoLTE.
81. Zero0 (Posts: 587; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
It's not even that CDMA needs to be killed off -- Verizon just needs to install VoLTE. At that point, it would be totally practical to use them as an all-LTE carrier and run with just the SIM card. (Verizon's LTE footprint is bigger than all of T-Mobile, and I think Sprint as well.) I guess you could technically throw an LTE SIM into a phone and use it as a data-only device with VoIP, but it's a bit of a pain in my opinion.
59. Twashbush (Posts: 47; Member since: 08 Jun 2011)
I agree with you that I don't see verizon getting another nexus after that debacle with the galaxy nexus, but I hope i'm wrong.
At the moment I'm planning to get the MAXX as my next phone to replace my aging motorola droid razr maxx
63. roldefol (Posts: 3220; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I'm with you. There's no perfect phone, especially with Verizon's limited (not bad, just limited) selection, but the Maxx looks like the best balance of near-stock, good size, well equipped, and of course whopping battery life.
71. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5653; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i think i'll get the Moto X over the MAXX.
it's closer to stock than the MAXX and since it'll be available on every major US carrier the Moto X will be a more popular device and will likely receive updates quicker. it's compact, has a denser display and is super customize-able with richer accessory support and also i'm just looking to change it up from the aggressive Droid styling. i still like it but this time i just want something more neutral looking.
78. roldefol (Posts: 3220; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Even if they don't offer a 32 GB version until November? That's the clincher for me. And even still... $249 vs. $300 for Maxx battery life.
I actually appreciate the cleaned up Droid styling this year, but I've not used a Razr HD/MAXX as my daily driver.
83. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4124; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
All options are really appealing to me. I'm most likely leaving T-Mobile to go with Verizon because I just moved waaaay out in the country where T-Mobile has almost no coverage. I have to resend texts 3 times just for them to get through, calls get cut off unless you go outside and stand by the road (even then it's choppy), and doing anything that requires data without Wifi on is plain impossible.
I'm going to call T-Mobile, try to have my ETFs waived because of their moving policy, and then go on to Verizon within the next month. I honestly can't choose between the Moto X or one of the new Droids. They all have pretty much the same specs, but they all have their own perks.
The Moto X for it's fast updates, the Maxx for it's giant battery and matte Kevlar finish, the Ultra for it's slim profile, and the Mini for it's small bezels and overall size.
51. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 3059; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Who's gonna make it? LG or Motorola?
60. OldNorseBruin (Posts: 211; Member since: 12 Mar 2013)
Groooooooooaaaannn! Here we go again...just like the XPhone, here comes months of over-hype, and then...a ( very much-like ) Mid-ranger. We who had been excitedly waiting for a great, new MOTOROLA phone aren't buying the B.S. advertising avalanche again...
62. roldefol (Posts: 3220; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
How many times must PA (Michael) remind us that the Moto X is not a midranger? It's upper-midrange, good enough for most but not all. Just like the Nexus 4. The Nexus 5 will also be upper-midrange. If you want super high end specs, you're now looking at HTC, Samsung, Sony, and LG, none of which are going to satisfy everyone's wants.
75. suyash1629 (Posts: 22; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
motorola must do it to make it a real google company
76. Daniel_88 (Posts: 4; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
Hope is true, as Motorola build quality is always great, Can't wait for next Nexus.
87. Trex95 (Posts: 572; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)
I heard that the Nexus 5 still LG!. Google has to change some Nexus specs
- Replace On screen buttons with hardware buttons like IPhone and Galaxy S4.
- Reduce the screen bezel to minimum like LG G2, Iphone 5 and galaxy S4.
- Bigger battery
- Better camera and more storage option at least 32 GB with LTE enable.
88. jwillis84 (Posts: 1; Member since: 11 Aug 2013)
Its unlikely Motorola will release the Nexus 5. Dynamics of merging design groups from dissimilar companies being what they are it would be too disruptive to the existing design teams (which includes mgrs and mrkting). Its more likely this generation to be a third party company, a company that can keep a secret.. Sony maybe.. or even someone we haven't heard of before.. HP? The more obscure the better because the pressure will be on to drive down costs.
Nexus isn't designed for the average consumer, so tricking it up to Tip Top specs has never been a goal.. we all know that. Stability and generic vanilla features every manufacturer can be expected to offer (mainstream) is their goal. Hence why people always moan about "what it could have been".
Specwise it will be average, LTE is a long shot.. its not in every market yet and would drive up cost. The purpose of the Nexus is to drive developers to program for the platform and provide their in house development with a prototype... subsidized by the broader market (brilliant actually). If the Nexus 5 were an Intel Processor.. it would be an i5 to an i7
It's also unlikely to have a lot of SD storage (gobs of that would encourage programmers to dismiss the larger market as a target for their apps.. its good to suffer), a slot also wouldn't make sense as it would allow dirt and other mechanical glitches in that would delay programmers.
The trend is away from replacable batteries.. for the same reason an SD slot makes the phone more unreliable.. they'll probably seal the battery and make it non-user replaceable in the Nexus 5.
The screen will probably be similar if not exact to the LG G2 because a large bright screen drains more power.. hence makes the programmers suffer more.. and leads to better power management. And 1080 aside its a larger target platform for an older generation of users to hit the onscreen buttons.. younger users will simply boast of a bigger display... win-win
If they include LTE I'd expect above $450.. if they ditch it one last time.. then defintiely closer ro $250 whoever they pick will be chomping at the bit for including LTE to make a splash with their entry into the market.. but Google will probably want to hold them back to keep costs down.. unless the manufacturer eats the cost.. which they might.